Comments on: Did climate change stoke past religious persecution? http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2008/12/01/did-climate-change-stoke-past-religious-persecution/ Religion, faith and ethics Sat, 23 Apr 2016 23:25:07 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.5 By: JEONG CHUN PHUOC http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2008/12/01/did-climate-change-stoke-past-religious-persecution/comment-page-1/#comment-19725 Tue, 03 Nov 2009 19:32:04 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/?p=2421#comment-19725 “Develop Islamic Environmental Framework in Climate Change Control”

It is hope that the organisers of Climate Change Conference in Copenhagen Dec 2009 will take cognisance of these Syariah provisions-which is unlikely- given the stalemate at the recent Bangkok Climate Proceedings 2009.

The appropriate platform would be for OIC to table it within OIC Region for implementation within Islamic countries realm.

Western Europe and developed bloc will not be able to understand the implication of Islamic environmental protection requirement within the context of the Syariah. However, if properly executed, it may be a viable alternative/solution that may be adopted at the forthcoming Climate Change Conference in Copenhagen Dec 2009.

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Jeong Chun Phuoc
Lecturer-in-Law
Jeongphu@yahoo.com

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By: Chris http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2008/12/01/did-climate-change-stoke-past-religious-persecution/comment-page-1/#comment-9110 Sun, 28 Dec 2008 20:59:47 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/?p=2421#comment-9110 I think a perceived and poorly understood shift in average temperatures (which is entirely normal, to be expected and nothing to do with human activity) leading to increased stress on essentially subsistence level societies could very easily lead to increased mania, especially among those ignorants who vent such feelings through the dangerous collectivity of religious anonymity, allowing them to scapegoat vulnerable minorites. as such this article provides an interesting half seconds thinking. the real question i feel is why has our current round of ignorant climate-reactionaries formed a new religion out of their ‘environmental’ tenets? the demise of the old faiths (still in they’re death-throes)? a burgeoning ‘spitiruality’ (lol)? the self-presentation of ignorant propagandists as prophets and seers (mr. gore)? who really knows… its not good for the species though.

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By: Anubis http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2008/12/01/did-climate-change-stoke-past-religious-persecution/comment-page-1/#comment-8727 Tue, 02 Dec 2008 18:23:55 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/?p=2421#comment-8727 John, that sounds like a best case scenario to me.

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By: Leo Pusateri http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2008/12/01/did-climate-change-stoke-past-religious-persecution/comment-page-1/#comment-8726 Tue, 02 Dec 2008 17:49:27 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/?p=2421#comment-8726 Feature that. Climate change in the middle ages.

I wonder if our SUV’s retroactively caused it. /sarc

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By: PRANAB HAZRA http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2008/12/01/did-climate-change-stoke-past-religious-persecution/comment-page-1/#comment-8724 Tue, 02 Dec 2008 16:17:27 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/?p=2421#comment-8724 It is really foolish to find any relation between climatic change and religion.Climatic change is an environmental impact that has no ‘kith and kin’relation with anykinds of religioustic approaches or activities.As in ancient period,sun was believed to be a God like idol.But now the sun is the source of ‘renewable Energy’.

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By: danny bloom http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2008/12/01/did-climate-change-stoke-past-religious-persecution/comment-page-1/#comment-8717 Tue, 02 Dec 2008 06:18:23 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/?p=2421#comment-8717 Very interesting post, sir. Question: “Are there lessons from the links between religious conflict and climate change in the past that we can usefully draw on today?”
Well, it could be that as climate change turns into fullbore global warming in 200 to 500 years, and as millions, perhaps billions of climate refugees, head north to find refuge in “climate retreats” which James Lovelock has spoken of, then maybe all the religions of the world are going to have to learn to get along and help each other out and drop the triumphalism and superiority that many of our modern religions use to belittle non-believers and other-believers. We need a new concept of God, post-Christian, post-Jewish, post-Islam, post-Hindu. Sadly, I don’t think people are up to it, though. The future will be worse than those Mad Max movies.

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By: John http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2008/12/01/did-climate-change-stoke-past-religious-persecution/comment-page-1/#comment-8710 Tue, 02 Dec 2008 00:28:48 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/?p=2421#comment-8710 It is my sad conclusion that for all of its lofty and necessary goals, that there will be no binding agreement. Each country, whether first or third world, has its own agenda. Regardless of whatever agreement may be hammered out, if a country feels that compliance is not in their best interest, they will ignore the agreement.

Witness how many times OPEC has tried to lever the price of crude oil by trying to adjust production rates. Each country would be assigned a quantity of crude to produce. Without exception, one member or another would disregard such production caps, upsetting the entire apple cart.

This leads me to conclude that there will be no cessation in the quantity of greenhouse gasses being spewed into the atmosphere. Global temperatures will continue to rise, and the Antarctic and Greenland icecaps will melt, raising the sea level by 200+ feet. We will witness a global population displacement unprecedented in recorded history.

Havoc will be wrought upon weather patterns globally, resulting in huge changes in where arable land can be found. America’s breadbasket could very easily become the “Great American Desert”.

The final result will be a mass starvation and die-off of humanity. Wars between the haves and have-nots will be rampant, further reducing the population. We will not become extinct, but will have greatly reduced numbers. With fewer humans around to cause ecological mayhem, we will then see (finally) a reduction in greenhouse emissions, and maybe, a millenia from now, in 3000AD the earth will have recovered.

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By: MW http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2008/12/01/did-climate-change-stoke-past-religious-persecution/comment-page-1/#comment-8703 Mon, 01 Dec 2008 18:27:43 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/?p=2421#comment-8703 Witch-hunting craze in Europe and fall of Chinese dynasties have been blamed on the climate as well, so this argument is nothing new. It does seem plausible that factors such as food shortage caused by colder / warmer weather would stoke resentment, when there is less to be shared among many. And it is often the case that someone different from the dominant group gets blamed (e.g. witches, religious and ethnic minorities).

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By: John Steinmetz http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2008/12/01/did-climate-change-stoke-past-religious-persecution/comment-page-1/#comment-8701 Mon, 01 Dec 2008 16:58:57 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/?p=2421#comment-8701 Why do we get so many one sided discussions regarding global warming? When the earth has warmed in the past, the world prospers with longer growing seasons and more CO in the air for the crops.

In another article, it was reported, “The U.N. Climate Panel predicts seas will rise by 18 to 59 cm (7-23 inches) this century because of warming stoked by human use of fossil fuels.”.

Most scientists refute this level of sea rise and do not beleive warming is significantly affected by burning of fossil fuels. The best book on this is “The Unstoppable Global Warming, Every 1500 years”. The sun’s impact dwarf’s the impact of buring fossil fuels. CO comes out of the ocean during warming cycles.

Let’s not waste our precious resouces on less cost efficient ways to supply needed energy. Let’s be correct and not “politically correct” for a change.

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