Comments on: Should Obama address “Muslim world” as a bloc? http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2009/01/20/should-obama-address-muslim-world-as-a-bloc/ Religion, faith and ethics Sat, 23 Apr 2016 23:25:07 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.5 By: ashrf http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2009/01/20/should-obama-address-muslim-world-as-a-bloc/comment-page-1/#comment-10890 Sun, 01 Mar 2009 01:05:46 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/?p=3604#comment-10890 Download this free PDF book for it is all relevant to the issue: “Unraveling the simplest”, from any of the next links:

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By: jason http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2009/01/20/should-obama-address-muslim-world-as-a-bloc/comment-page-1/#comment-9970 Fri, 30 Jan 2009 18:55:25 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/?p=3604#comment-9970 He should realize what an opportunity he has to help return America to a fee self reliant constitutional republic and begin obeying the constitution and everything will start to fall in place.

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By: Blogger http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2009/01/20/should-obama-address-muslim-world-as-a-bloc/comment-page-1/#comment-9920 Mon, 26 Jan 2009 14:29:24 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/?p=3604#comment-9920 …People of all faiths have problems the world over. Projecting Islamic as one block is part of this Islamist aggression….

— No blocs go world wide terrorizing people showing off that this is a pure religion of the world.

Every Religion is pure to it’s followers that doesn’t mean you go kill non-Muslims in the name of Islam.
Obama’s ‘Muslim World’ is just a simple to distinguish the secular countries, multi-ethnic countries from Islam propagating countries.

“They do not and never understand unless specifically pointed as Muslims”

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By: Qasim Awan http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2009/01/20/should-obama-address-muslim-world-as-a-bloc/comment-page-1/#comment-9901 Sat, 24 Jan 2009 19:07:07 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/?p=3604#comment-9901 Obama will always be a more cosmopolitan & cultured President than some redneck cowboy hick;however his “Muslim world” reference was simplistic & a simplification that Westerners can understand.
For Muslims like me,the idea of a united Muslim world is pure fallacy…look at how many wars we have fought amongst each other…Iran/Iraq,Iraq/Kuwait,Kurdistan issue,Afghanistan/Pakistan & even the Shia-Sunni schism.

Right now,we are way too divided for anyone to refer to us as the “Muslim world”…the only place where that phrase is used repeatedly is in the naive Western media

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By: Global Watcher http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2009/01/20/should-obama-address-muslim-world-as-a-bloc/comment-page-1/#comment-9867 Thu, 22 Jan 2009 15:11:00 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/?p=3604#comment-9867 The World outside of the U.S., yes the muslims need to be addressed as “bloc” not so much for the benefit of the muslims, but the benefit of the U.S. Since its image under the Bush43 admin has taken such a huge bashing, the quickest route to restoring that is to address the muslims as one, since they all claim to be that way, as a political and relgious body, it is my perception, that they would appreciate that.

Islam is in direct need of a “Renaissance and Reformation”. Christianity, did many barbaric things in God’s name, until enough people started to become educated more and more and in embracing the political aspect of the church used that as a stepping stone to develop other things, such as science, art, medicine and engineering and research and science.

For the last 1200 years, Islam has been dying a slow death from an intellectual point of view. It has created no pure new knowledge for the world. It has contributed little or no invention to the matrix of human knowledge. Mankind has received no benefit from Islam since then. All matters of invention were created from Christen, Jewish, Hindu and other societies.

It is for this reason that Islam, because it has become so retrograde, in that it is not embracing the endeavors to advance humanity, but endeavors to increase its memberhood, by force, coercion, “dawa”, having many children. Now there are many educated muslims, but all their education and where they went to be educated is all created by the Western Nations, which are from a knowledge point of view, taking humanity forward. Not even in a million years, could an Islamic nation create a space program, as the static nature and the stagnancy it imparts on the mind is like a mental prison, killing any sort of creativity to spurn creation.

Although is Islam is increasing in numbers, it is decreasing in Intelligence and increasing in its ability to radicalize and create hate. There appears no central authority in Islam to impart modernization of thought.

Because intellectual regression is happening and the rest of the world is moving forward, there will be huge collision course in the near future between the Kaffir societies and non-kaffir societies. It is hoped that this can be stopped by reforming Islam.

Reforming Islam would mean, recognizing the things in Islam, which do not work today in a modern world. Things like treating non-muslims differently, this concept of Jihad, equality for women, no marriage of women until 18, no divorce by saying “Talaq” three times and so on….and finally, Islam must embrace the human form, and this is the most important thing of all. Once human beings embrace the human form, an infinite cascade of imagination spews like a well from the mind. This is well documented in Renaissance in Italy and works in India, Persia, China, where much human advancement has come. Most of all, entitled hatreds must be stopped, especially hatreds towards Jews. All the Mosques must stop preaching hate, even implied hate towards non-muslims, as this creates an “us” and “them” separation, which grows hatred in the minds of children.

But this central authority must impart those things, which the West finds abhorrent and start to admit to themselves that certain concepts in their teachings do not fit in a modern context and actually work to stop Islam from progressing into the modern world.

Until common core values, which the West finds to take for granted and the Muslim world finds absurd (like democracy, secularity, rights of women, rights of non-muslims,etc) are found to start being more commonplace in the Muslim world, there will always be a clash between the Modern Age and the Dark Ages.

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By: Peace http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2009/01/20/should-obama-address-muslim-world-as-a-bloc/comment-page-1/#comment-9858 Thu, 22 Jan 2009 06:01:34 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/?p=3604#comment-9858 Yes! it is correct to consider muslims as a separate bloc but with same rights, integrity, esteem and respect as for his own bloc.

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By: abc http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2009/01/20/should-obama-address-muslim-world-as-a-bloc/comment-page-1/#comment-9854 Thu, 22 Jan 2009 04:18:22 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/?p=3604#comment-9854 I hope the new US President starts seeing the cause to the problem rather than the problem itself. US is the recent one to witness terrorist activities. US government has no one to blame but themselves. US government has been selling and supplying weapons to many countries (probably for charity and making world a better place, I guess!). Many countries across the globe have been facing terrorist activities for decades. All of a sudden when US witnessed such terrorist activities in their own country, they felt as if they are the most terror affected country on the globe. They feel that they have the right to judge and act against any organization or nation. On the other hand, when other nations face terrorist activities, US intervenes and suggests a dialogue process to resolve the issue. US government policy seems like that of a businessman who sidelines the ethics in the process maximizing profit. It’s high time that US introspects about its foreign policy.

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By: Non-Muslim http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2009/01/20/should-obama-address-muslim-world-as-a-bloc/comment-page-1/#comment-9851 Wed, 21 Jan 2009 22:54:17 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/?p=3604#comment-9851 Very wrong question.

Does anyone ask “Is Obama going to address “the Buddhist world” as a bloc?

Does anyone ask “Is Obama going to address “the Hindu world” as a bloc?

Does anyone ask “Is Obama going to address “the Christian world” as a bloc?

The title and discussion are very indicative of liberal backing for Islamofascism.

People of all faiths have problems the world over. Projecting Islamists as one block is part of this Islamist aggression.

Wake up people!

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By: hassan http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2009/01/20/should-obama-address-muslim-world-as-a-bloc/comment-page-1/#comment-9845 Wed, 21 Jan 2009 16:30:04 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/?p=3604#comment-9845 azadDp made a great effort to list all the wrong doings by the “muslim world”. if u want to start listing all the disfunctionalities of the muslim world vs the rest, then let’s list all the wrong doings by the west. starting with the creation of israel, which robbed millions of palestinains of their homeland and has affected the middle east forever. how about the capitalistic economic ideaologies that have exposed that the world’s markets have been a huge scheme by the rich elite that have left the world broke. how about the problem of christian priests and the large number of them who cann’t seem to keep thier hands of young children. how the western invasion into afghanistan and iraq that have cause the deaths of hundreds and thousands of people and displaced millions. how about the western nations exploitation of africa and its resources that have left nations into state of civil and tribal wars. even with all these negative factors, this doesn’t mean that the west is a collection of the greatest evils in the world. for all their faults, they still have great ideals that can help the world. the same goes for the muslim world. the problem is and you ignorantly chose to ignore this is that the west supported people like saddam hussein, bin laden, taliban, continues to support extremist producing countries like egypt, pakistan, saudia arabia, and jordan. so how are you blaiming the “muslim world” when the west is just as guilty for supporting these type of behaviors?? if anything this has left muslims facing problems from their own “leadership” as well as western policies. i just reading up on the facts and learning history properly might actually enhance your understanding of how things really are instead of making things up.

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By: SueG http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2009/01/20/should-obama-address-muslim-world-as-a-bloc/comment-page-1/#comment-9842 Wed, 21 Jan 2009 16:01:22 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/?p=3604#comment-9842 I agreed with Obama extend his hand to the Muslim world. Yes there are many other groups but his is NOT the president of the world, need no to address Georgia/Russia or China/Tibet problem. We have problem with Muslim since 9/11 attack, and Bush has angered the Muslim world, our disastrous middle east policy can only generate more terrorism not less. Military is not the answer, hatred is not the answer, it’s time to make up with the Muslim. Whatever internal problem within Muslim country such as woman’s right have nothing to do with American people. We are not world police and hope Obama won’t see himself not worship interventionism.

Under Bush’s propaganda, some Americans and most Muslims misunderstand each other. We too often forgot we are all victims of politicians secret agenda. They use our patriotism to back their worst deed.

If American and Muslim world can not be brother, at least we can live peaceful along side with each other without hate.

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