Comments on: GUESTVIEW: Canada and the niqab: How to go public in the public square http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2009/02/06/canada-and-the-niqab-how-to-go-public-in-the-public-square/ Religion, faith and ethics Sat, 23 Apr 2016 23:25:07 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.5 By: Anonymous http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2009/02/06/canada-and-the-niqab-how-to-go-public-in-the-public-square/comment-page-1/#comment-22556 Mon, 30 Nov 2009 21:41:37 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/?p=4140#comment-22556 What if some German immigrant decided to wear a brown shirt and Swastika armband claiming it a part of his cultural heritage? Is it acceptable? (Hint: in Germany it would be a criminal offense.) Hijab and other symbols of militant islam are no more acceptable than Nazi symbols.

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By: Sergey http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2009/02/06/canada-and-the-niqab-how-to-go-public-in-the-public-square/comment-page-1/#comment-22533 Mon, 30 Nov 2009 16:40:33 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/?p=4140#comment-22533 At home they can wear full space suit, but in public space they should respect local customs. I found hijab is offending. It is a half hearten argument that they cannot take hijab off because of their religion. They came to the West by free will. Most of them seek economical benefits. I am sure that they had pictures taken without hijab when it came to immigration documents. So it was a question of right price.

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By: Armand Bogaarts http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2009/02/06/canada-and-the-niqab-how-to-go-public-in-the-public-square/comment-page-1/#comment-22346 Sat, 28 Nov 2009 14:41:19 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/?p=4140#comment-22346 The niqab provokes us like we Western women would lying topless on their beaches.When we deal with someone, we want to see their face. We want to be able to deal with everyone, also with women. Face to face. This is not no longer a man´s world.Without this possibility, we feel that our communication is disabled. The niqab offends our values.In Rome do like the Romans…

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By: Trevor http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2009/02/06/canada-and-the-niqab-how-to-go-public-in-the-public-square/comment-page-1/#comment-22204 Thu, 26 Nov 2009 14:57:01 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/?p=4140#comment-22204 I believe that any culture or religion which is acceptable to its people should be allowed to exist in other countries so long as it does not infringe on the laws or beliefs of the host peoples of said country.HOWEVER, I can fully understand the reasoning behind a judge ordering the unveiling for judicial purposes. The whole whole ordeal actually seems fairly straight forward to me.

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By: Orgizmo http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2009/02/06/canada-and-the-niqab-how-to-go-public-in-the-public-square/comment-page-1/#comment-22149 Wed, 25 Nov 2009 19:22:37 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/?p=4140#comment-22149 In a lot of ways western culture has shown that there are cases in which individual rights give way to the public interest. The famous example of not being able to yell “FIRE!” in a movie theater full of people as an act of free speech. We have naturalists who could happily spend all day in their birthday suit but they would be charged for doing so in public. So when it comes to issues such as removing face coverings in a court of law or for a driver’s license photo I think that too falls under one of those cases of justifiable infringement on personal liberties for the public good. If anything we should have more concern for the rights to protest and free speech being quashed such as they were at the Pittsburgh G20 meeting and such as they are/will be for the Vancouver olympics. That infringement on rights seems far more threatening to society then the removal of a face covering in a court of law.

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By: Anubis http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2009/02/06/canada-and-the-niqab-how-to-go-public-in-the-public-square/comment-page-1/#comment-22146 Wed, 25 Nov 2009 18:17:38 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/?p=4140#comment-22146 The great concern by Americans with the niqab is clearly Islamo-phobic. Never mind that it is a symbol of patriarchal dominance and oppression. Its forced use predates Islam, Christianity and Judaism going back well over 4000 years.So for now we will not tolerate the niqab so that the authorities can make sure our papers are in order. Besides who cares about State and local ordinances? No one obeys speed limits or traffic lights. Or are laws just for some of us to follow?

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By: Oliver Chettle http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2009/02/06/canada-and-the-niqab-how-to-go-public-in-the-public-square/comment-page-1/#comment-10594 Tue, 17 Feb 2009 13:40:44 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/?p=4140#comment-10594 Nuns don’t participate in “in the public realm in every level”, they are a very small group (almost invisibly small nowadays in many Western countries), with specific and very limited roles. They are volunteers, and they are free to leave the convent and walk the streets in miniskirts if they wish. Thus an analogy between nuns and Muslim women as a whole – who did not volunteer to be female – is completely invalid.

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By: Bill Leicht http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2009/02/06/canada-and-the-niqab-how-to-go-public-in-the-public-square/comment-page-1/#comment-10447 Thu, 12 Feb 2009 18:48:45 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/?p=4140#comment-10447 SARAH, MAT, Glad to see you joined issue in this current dialog. Your points on democratization and the requirements of open communication were well taken and clear. Two points I would have liked to have read are: 1) The legal issue of the right to “face” an accuser vs. prevention of further damages, 2) The importance of visage (viewable face)vs listening to the human being and from the heart. Granted that a face is a most communicative set of muscles, is it necessary to behold it in some or all circumstances? Who truly needs to “see the face” of Mohammed or Jesus to behold their messages?

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By: Pete Cann http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2009/02/06/canada-and-the-niqab-how-to-go-public-in-the-public-square/comment-page-1/#comment-10435 Thu, 12 Feb 2009 09:33:18 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/?p=4140#comment-10435 What an absurdly dishonest column. The issue is face recognition and facial expressions; nobody gives a hoot what your culture is and you’re welcome to it.Apparently men of the Indian Sikh religion are required by their religion to carry a kind of scimitar. Are they to be allowed on airplanes? What about recent converts?Oh it’s a meaningful issue, but nowhere near as simple as this exercise in whining suggests.

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By: Jean Coaxum http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2009/02/06/canada-and-the-niqab-how-to-go-public-in-the-public-square/comment-page-1/#comment-10394 Wed, 11 Feb 2009 17:24:57 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/?p=4140#comment-10394 I feel at this time my life, and the things that I have learn in my 55 years on this earth, I am not the judge of how peolpe of different faith have to appear in public, we are all on this earth for short time and when we close our eyes and have to walk through those gates, Oh did I say gates, Well that what I believe, we all have our life to deal with, Why we just can’t get alone with each other. I look at life like this, if you take the skin off my body you would not not know who I was! we are all made different, and we stand for different things…..

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