Comments on: Religion and politics behind sharia drive in Swat http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2009/02/16/religion-and-politics-behind-sharia-drive-in-swat/ Religion, faith and ethics Sat, 23 Apr 2016 23:25:07 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.5 By: Mwaqar http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2009/02/16/religion-and-politics-behind-sharia-drive-in-swat/comment-page-1/#comment-10707 Sun, 22 Feb 2009 11:39:20 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/?p=4291#comment-10707 DEAL WITH CRIMINALSAnother shameful day for Pukhtuns by those who shamefully bowed to the murderers of innocent people in Swat.Bad news that the government has given in to demands of the scoundrels in Swat…they say that (Nizam- i -adl ) is to be imposed in Malakand/Swat now…thus giving in to the mullahs by the authorities…a black day, sad and shameful…how could you let murderors and criminals to have th eir way like this,I am not against if people in Swat legally through election or referendum demanded for such lawasbut unfortunately thses lawas are imposed on them by bunch of ignorant who killed and treated people of Swat like they were not Muslims and even real Islam of Mohammad(PBUH) will not allow actions of Talibans.What is the educational background of mullah sufi,Fazullah or betullah mesud,are they Islamic scholars, on the other hand Pakistani elite and military;instead of crushing theose morans like pests and vermin that they are, they’re being rewarded by giving in to their medieval, absurd, and contorted demands. Way to go! Be that as it may, looks like this cancer will spread and spread until it will eventually remove the smug smirk. from the faces of johnies who call themselves arjuns, jaypees, ajeyas, nkgs and stuff…and all their baniya’s hard painstaking work that they have done for themselves in business finagling would eventually come down to aught.So called leaders of pukhtuns and Pakistani regime surrendered to thugs and criminal and killers of Pukhtuns. This is indeed a shameful day, when the elected representatives of the swati people were ignored and the state put under the tender mercies of the scoundrels who wear the mask of “Islam” and “sharia” to hide their power-grab.Will these mullahs and ignorant Taliban leaders will be punished for killing so many people?, destroying busnises, destroying schools,will they be punished for using bombs and suicide bombers for imposing their views on majority?Are these religious fanatics going to build those schools they destroyed,what they do for all those people who were forced to leave Sawt,their homes,kids could not go to schools for months?Do these morans and biguits have any plan for those kids future ot they want them to join Taliban club of ignorance.Pakistani elite,bourgeious and corrupt politicians are as much responsible for Pukhtuns destruction and deaths as Taliban and their moro n leaders are responsible.M waqar, United States of America

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By: Nathuram Waghmare http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2009/02/16/religion-and-politics-behind-sharia-drive-in-swat/comment-page-1/#comment-10660 Thu, 19 Feb 2009 11:18:23 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/?p=4291#comment-10660 By calling a wolf a swan, the wolf does not adopt the qualities and the beauty of a swan.By severly beating and murdering uneducated people in the name of God for their trivial trespasses against religion to “set an example”, is the greatest sin against Almighty. Because if God wanted only “the pure” tolive in any land or country, it is not impossible for Him to create it!This simple yet pure thinking obviously seemed to escape a Gujarathi-Katchi Khoja man called Jinnah from India, yet he had a dream, be it so high, that it is impossible for any Pakistani leader to fullfil. By installing religious police, the Taliban, who may mean well, but themselves are corrupt, to enforce “law”, without due process or ever a sense of “forgiveness”, a key tenant of religion by the so called democratic governemnent of Pakistan is no less than a crime of enslavement and an errosion of basic human rights. If the father of the nation of Pakistan, Jinnah, was alive today, he would behorrified at this event.Before any Pakistani talks about Kashmir or human rights violation in India toward any minority, he should look in the mirror and ask himself what his own despot leaders are doing to the people of Swat Valley, Hindu minorities, Balochi people who are in peasant status, and all non-Pakistani punjabis who are suffering only because of their ethnicity. To deny this basic fact is in itself a crime. Until this type of thinking is borne in the minds of Pakistani people, there will never be peace within Pakistan or around it. Much less any prosperity, progress or goodwill to someday becoming the “land of the pure”, something God would have done himself if he thought it was so deserved.

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By: Mauryan http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2009/02/16/religion-and-politics-behind-sharia-drive-in-swat/comment-page-1/#comment-10653 Thu, 19 Feb 2009 05:05:49 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/?p=4291#comment-10653 Aamir ali writes: “Wacko Indians can’t discuss a topic at hand, always have to go into ancient history or history of Pakistan as a whole.”In order to discuss on a topic with someone on the other side, one expects proper knowledge of the whole thing. One sided history or close minded views will not help a discussion to go forward.Some of the comments I have been seeing from you and other people from your country tell me that you have been fed with wrongful information and a lot of important truths have been completely hidden from your views. It is difficult to discuss with people who are fed only biased views. Therefore it becomes necessary to emphasize on knowing the correct history of the whole thing.I agree that there is always a bias in everyone’s view. But your bias seems to be built on ignorance. I am sure you believe that Bangladesh happened entirely by Indian plan and that Mujibur Rehman was an Indian puppet. I see claims from you and others that India is helping Balochistan rebellion. So for not one iota of proof for it exists. Somewhere, some event should have linked India to the events in Balochistan and I do not see any. Mind you, I read a lot on these matters from different sources. I live outside India and have access to many unbiased reports. I can tell you that your establishment has created an image of a monster out of India. India’s actions against Pakistan has only been reactive and not proactive. If the RAW was such a sinister establishment, Mumbai attacks would never have happened. Pakistan openly supports many activities against India. There is no comparison. If India spent all its energy on destabilizing its neighbors, it would fall apart. These things take up a lot of money and resources. India has chosen instead to focus on economic development and has progressed substantially. I wish you guys could do the same.If you see my writings, I have been fair where I have to be. I have supported the accession of Kashmir to Pakistan. Some Indian readers have expressed their concerns about my views. But one has to be fair based on overall knowledge.

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By: Aamir Ali http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2009/02/16/religion-and-politics-behind-sharia-drive-in-swat/comment-page-1/#comment-10643 Wed, 18 Feb 2009 21:11:34 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/?p=4291#comment-10643 Wacko Indians can’t discuss a topic at hand, always have to go into ancient history or history of Pakistan as a whole.

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By: Mauryan http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2009/02/16/religion-and-politics-behind-sharia-drive-in-swat/comment-page-1/#comment-10642 Wed, 18 Feb 2009 21:05:55 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/?p=4291#comment-10642 Rajeev Sorry if my comment sounded too caustic. But Islam does mean surrender (to God of course). But in today’s world, power is God and whoever wields power gets to make the rule.Surrendering to the Taliban for quick justice is like going to the local Mafia don for the same. Who has patience to wait for the legal system to work? The don will get the same justice done for you, within twenty four hours. All he needs is your life long loyalty. And you life won’t be long if you betrayed. If people want to take a short cut for justice, it means they have no value in a legal system or government. I do not blame the people at Swat. Pakistan itself never had a stable government and laws are there for namesake.I have read stories where villages and the local law makers make peace with bandits who torment them. In return for peace, the bandits get to do what they want.This Sharia law is the same as Mafia law. Those who make a deal with these groups will lose their freedom and rights for good.

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By: rajeev http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2009/02/16/religion-and-politics-behind-sharia-drive-in-swat/comment-page-1/#comment-10633 Wed, 18 Feb 2009 08:02:14 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/?p=4291#comment-10633 @Doesn’t Islam mean surrender?- Posted by MauryanMauryan: Your several posts have been useful. But I feel that the above statement is too pungent for anybody’s taste atleast for more than 150 million Indians. I do not mind criticizing religion for academic interests, but not this way. I like to believe you don;t mean it.

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By: Spooky http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2009/02/16/religion-and-politics-behind-sharia-drive-in-swat/comment-page-1/#comment-10631 Wed, 18 Feb 2009 06:27:29 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/?p=4291#comment-10631 So now we see the reason why America invades other nations, desposes dictators, and imposes democracy.Because today, Pakistan has capitulated. It did not have the fight or resolve, so it surrendered.This is the reason that militant islam takes root. Because in the end, these people prefer life over liberty.”I will do whatever you say. I will worship your god. I will not drink, or smoke. I will chant death to America. Just please….please don’t hurt me or my family”A modern counterpoint to the words Patrick Henry made, so long ago.

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By: Yogesh http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2009/02/16/religion-and-politics-behind-sharia-drive-in-swat/comment-page-1/#comment-10628 Wed, 18 Feb 2009 04:41:31 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/?p=4291#comment-10628 To Hammad:Are you male or Female?I want to hear the view from any female personality from your area about imposing the sharia in SWAT.You seriously living in stone age world. We are not fighting to change your lifestyle. You and your lifestyle simply go to hell. We are fighting because you and your radical ideology which are posing the serious threat to the peace and prosperity of Afganistan, India, US and Israel.

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By: Murugan http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2009/02/16/religion-and-politics-behind-sharia-drive-in-swat/comment-page-1/#comment-10626 Wed, 18 Feb 2009 03:48:55 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/?p=4291#comment-10626 India doesn’t want any refugees from Pakistan in case full scale war broke out. Majority of Pakistanis never had a good heart for Indians. Send them to heaven.I strongly believe Pakistan will try to inflict war with India for her own survival. India is ready to thwart any challenge.Murugan, Indian.

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By: Mauryan http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2009/02/16/religion-and-politics-behind-sharia-drive-in-swat/comment-page-1/#comment-10623 Wed, 18 Feb 2009 01:54:00 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/?p=4291#comment-10623 After reading the comments made by some Pakistanis here and in their blog forums, I see a sense of surrender to the Taliban, anticipating their further gain. Some are consoling themselves as though the agreement between the inept Pakistani government and the Taliban is a welcome sign. “It is for justice,” wrote someone.I do not blame them. But this pre-emptive attitude seems to be built in for survival in this region. When the US came in close and said, “either you are with us or against us,” Musharraf threw in the towel and dropped his Islamic brothers in Afghanistan. Now he was fighting the “terrorists.” At least the Taliban was bold and they stood their ground. Pakistan on the other hand decided to save its skin and started running with the hounds. Now that the Taliban has spread out from Afghanistan into Pakistan, the culture shows its true nature – surrender and make peace. If you can’t beat them why not join them? And some one has written in one of the articles that the Pakistani military is not trained on counter-insurgency and so they decided to give in. They can probably seek help from the Indian military on counter-insurgency operations that they have become experts at, thanks to you know who. Doesn’t Islam mean surrender? No wonder the Pakistani establishment surrendered to the Taliban. There is peace in two places – in a place or worship or in a grave yard. The peace that Taliban brings is similar to the latter. Enjoy it. But never console yourself that this is what the people of Swat want. They do not want women’s education shut down. When I read Pakistan’s history, there itself these people have done a similar thing – Jump ship and join hands with the Arab invader Qasim and re-write history – Dahir was corrupt so the people of the land welcomed him and over threw the Buddhists. So now Swat was corrupted and the Taliban has come to save them. Good luck. Soon you will need to rewrite your history again. May be your history will start with the arrival of the Taliban.

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