Comments on: Pope meets Devil in Düsseldorf

By: EmbarkOn

EmbarkOn — Thu, 26 Feb 2009 22:07:38 +0000

I think people need to remember to take this in context with what Rose Monday is. Public figures have traditionally been a huge part of the carnival. Given the recent comments of Williamson, it should not be a surprise that he was brought up.

Here is a video I found that has some different perspectives on the Williamson story from various news sources.

http://www.newsy.com/videos/controversia l_bishop_returns_to_the_u_k/

By: Maria

Maria — Thu, 26 Feb 2009 17:27:23 +0000

Certainly,it looks like nobody who wrote in this blog except the Columnist have been in Dusseldorf or at least take the time to read about the city surroundings, the population, the people, the actual socio-economic, religion tendencies, the diferent kind of ethnicity mixed,coexistance, etc.before writing. Am I WRONG?
I do not have the lucky to know the city, hope some day … but at least try to search some about it, before opinion, but at least and not less,always we all never end to learn….to search first….

Also,I see that some confuse the use of a seudonimous with anonimous, I hope it is a confusion, if it is not, the columnist have all the right to encourage to show yourself when it is necessary.I find that we are all using our freedom to gave opinion, that is healthy, to communicate, encourage, but not to insult, if you go inside that terrain,…. well have to show your name, if you send words as stones and hide your hand you are using an anonimous way.

Just in case , the context where this blog starts was a carnival parade in Dusseldorf. A carnival express what is the sentiment of the community, the inner conflicts inside the population, but in a way that it is used as a social and individual release of your inner concerns. You can see in carnivals of other sides of the world the same pattern, in diferent ways as is the difference of cultures are. Carnival is a way to analize what is going one in each of those societies.

Each year the ways are the same the meanings espressed are different, usually the meanings are very actual with the times. Good and bad things.

I am sorry to read how easy you judge actual German people, this generation and future are still paying the bill from WWII, but they are in actual times trying, not to erase the past, but to emmerge and recover from that past. Germans are working hard to be integrated with all the world. In a positive attitude of equality. I think we all are not better and not less that them now.

About The Pope and the Devil…. seems to be a great issuue that concerns thos e society, so much enough to be expressed in a parade, these make reactions like this blog , and in the mainstreets people, that is the good thing of Freedom, but with utual rights and duties.
I hope Dusseldorf people be more release because were being able to express thsir concerns and tabues without being punished.

By: Grace

Grace — Thu, 26 Feb 2009 09:14:47 +0000

Bishop Williamson must be hitting a nerve to be so persecuted and reviled. When I think of this man, almost 70 years of age, being stripped of his position in Argentina and sold out by SSPX and the pope, I cannot understand. One expects the “media” to behave as a pack of jackals because they ARE a pack of jackals; they manufacture “furor”.

By: Daniel Rosaupan

Daniel Rosaupan — Thu, 26 Feb 2009 07:16:17 +0000

If that papier-mâché figure had pertained to Mohammed, or to a Jew, this will be condemned by most of the prominent people in the world. We will see and hear protests in the streets, burning of effigies, and even destroying and burning some properties. But since said papier-mâché figure only pertained to the Vicar of Christ namely the Pope and a Bishop being portrayed as evil, we hear no uproar and condemnation. We don’t hear from prominent people in the world like the Chancellor of Germany of her being upset to think that the Pope is a German too! We don’t even hear from some Bishops in the Roman Curia rebuking the same which I suspect some of them are Freemasons. Anton is right, in this politically correct age we are called to show sensitivity and respect towards everyone, except of course Christians- especially the Catholic Church.

By: Mary Rodrigues

Mary Rodrigues — Thu, 26 Feb 2009 04:59:31 +0000

Whoever did this, I have a question : Is that yourself the Holy Pope is shaking hands with? Is he trying to convince you to change your life?

By: Gary

Gary — Thu, 26 Feb 2009 00:08:57 +0000

Couple points of fact:
1. Williamson was excommunicated in 1995, not 1988.
2. Lifting the excommunication does NOT mean that “they have been readmitted into the Roman fold”, as the article claims. Simply no longer being officially excommunicated does not restore a person to communion, it merely means they are no longer under direct censure. For example, in 1965 Paul VI and the Orthodox Patriarch ofConstantinople, Athenagoras I, lifted the mutual excommunications dating from the eleventh century, but that did NOT restore communion among the two churches.

By: John Forester

John Forester — Wed, 25 Feb 2009 23:47:41 +0000

It’s fine and dandy to be a pro-abort Catholic and receive communion, you can favor homosexual “marriage” and proudly receive the body of Christ. You can favor embryo stem cell research, test tube babies, selective reductions (kill the extras) and be applauded in church. Just don’t breath a single word that might question ANY part of the holocaust. Then, there is no room for you in the Catholic Church (a.k.a. German bishops), no room for you to teach at the seminary in Argentina or in that whole country. The court papers are now being drawn up against the bishop as a warning to the world. Meanwhile a Jewish “comedian” on Israeli TV blasphemes Jesus and Mother Mary and the response is “gosh and golly, is it ok to say we are really mad?”. What a joke!! Appeasement never works. As Pat Buchannan said, it’s time for a “muscular Christianity”. Amen

By: Anton

Anton — Wed, 25 Feb 2009 21:12:27 +0000

To liken a Catholic bishop to Satan, even in jest, is deeply offensive, and arguably more offensive to us than Bishop Williamson’s original ocmments were to Jews.

Sadly, in this politically correct age we have to show sensitivity and respect towards everyone, except of course Christians.

By: Integrity

Integrity — Wed, 25 Feb 2009 18:54:00 +0000

Doesn’t take much to label people antisemitic these days. It’s absurd to call anyone antisemitic just because they do not believe in a particular version of the holocaust. I always thought that to be antisemitic people needed to hate Jews and consider them demonic or less than human in some way. I thought a person actually had to have a bigoted view against Jews as inferior and hell bound. THAT would be antisemitic. But now, if you just disagree with some historical views relating to Jews, even if you support the state of Israel, you are considered antisemitic. The world has gone mad.

By: Jerry

Jerry — Wed, 25 Feb 2009 14:44:33 +0000

Is he a Devil because he asked for proof that 6 million had been killed? Have you ever seen proof? or do you just believe everything you see on TV. This political correctness has gone over the cliff.