Comments on: White U.S. evangelicals most skeptical on climate change http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2009/04/17/white-us-evangelicals-most-skeptical-on-climate-change/ Religion, faith and ethics Sat, 23 Apr 2016 23:25:07 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.5 By: Anubis http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2009/04/17/white-us-evangelicals-most-skeptical-on-climate-change/comment-page-1/#comment-11734 Tue, 28 Apr 2009 15:51:18 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/?p=5254#comment-11734 Geologists still believe we are headed toward another Ice age Larry. They too would be well advised to consider the IPCC’s findings as well as Scripps Oceanographic Institute’s work.

Andrew and Jd, are you listening. The Industrial Revolution was fueled by massive amounts of coal. Scientist in the 1870s began to consider what effect all this CO2 being emitted and already suspected warming was taking place. Revelle and Keeling began gathering the hard data to prove or disprove greenhouse emissions were rising in the late 1950s with a new tool,infrared mass spectrometry. Oxygen has decreased and CO2 has increased every year since, except for 1961 when both levels remained flat. Basic physics ( which is no longer taught to most high school students) shows us that increased oxygen has a cooling effect and increased CO2 has a warming effect when either are introduced to a controlled environment (the atmosphere). Conversely, when these gases are introduced in the combustion process of fuel their effects are just the opposite.

The great misfortune is that our schools have neglected to teach our children these findings for 40 years.

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By: Larry GIlman http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2009/04/17/white-us-evangelicals-most-skeptical-on-climate-change/comment-page-1/#comment-11714 Sun, 26 Apr 2009 23:44:52 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/?p=5254#comment-11714 “the same data were trotted out during the global cooling farce, and the recommendations were also the same ” — JD

False. There was never a global cooling scare — among scientists. There were a few sensationalistic, misleading articles in mass-circulation magazines in the 1970s, but is simply not true, no matter how many times the lie is repeated, that _climatologists_ ever declared we were about to experience a new ice age. Sadly, one can never completely dislodge an urban myth of this sort once it goes viral . . . And of course, even if scientists HAD predicted cooling, which they didn’t (a few said it was a possibility but that there was not enough data at the time to call it one way or the other), the idea that the data today are “the same” after 3 decades of astonishingly productive research, or that the recommendations for fighting cooling could or would have been the same as those for fighting, reveals a certain amount of, shall we say, confusion.

If reality matters to you, if facts matter, check out RealClimate.org or the IPCC’s summary for policymakers at http://www.ipcc.ch/pdf/assessment-report  /ar4/wg1/ar4-wg1-spm.pdf .

For the historical facts about the global-cooling scare that wasn’t, see “The Global Cooling Myth” athttp://www.realclimate.org/index.php/a rchives/2005/01/the-global-cooling-myth/ .

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By: John Burgeson http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2009/04/17/white-us-evangelicals-most-skeptical-on-climate-change/comment-page-1/#comment-11706 Sat, 25 Apr 2009 16:48:17 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/?p=5254#comment-11706 The polls also show that 96% of all climate scientists accept the IPCC findings. That’s too high a percentage to disregard.

Scientific discussions of the issues may be found on

www.RealClimate.org

Burgy

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By: Edd Doerr http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2009/04/17/white-us-evangelicals-most-skeptical-on-climate-change/comment-page-1/#comment-11698 Fri, 24 Apr 2009 17:44:35 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/?p=5254#comment-11698 Clearly, far too many evangelicals and fundamentalists prefer blind faith to science and facts. Overpopulation, overconsumption, waste, resource depletion, inefficiency, and indifference to science will seriously hurt our children and grandchildren unless more of us wake up and get our heads out of the sand.

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By: Realist http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2009/04/17/white-us-evangelicals-most-skeptical-on-climate-change/comment-page-1/#comment-11688 Thu, 23 Apr 2009 20:18:22 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/?p=5254#comment-11688 Fervent believers of a “god” that is taking care of everything “bad ” in this world are living all the time with blinders on their eyes. There are too many dangerous things happening in this world that proves that a change in climate, among other calamities, is truly a reality! What is really their cause for denying reality is that the world population is growing out of control that is the main cause for disasters, but this will conflict with the bibles instruction to “increase and multiply”. This is yet another ridiculous command by individuals that had no idea that the population would ever be this large. Let’s see if “god” will handle all this trouble – it is very doubtful.

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By: Mark Scoville http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2009/04/17/white-us-evangelicals-most-skeptical-on-climate-change/comment-page-1/#comment-11671 Wed, 22 Apr 2009 21:33:44 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/?p=5254#comment-11671 It’s not that many evangelical Christians neceessarily doubt climate change as a fact, it’s that it is inconsequential to the them; because what happnes was supposed to happen; and regardless, the earth will be restored when Christ returns- at least that’s what groups like the Mormons say. How profound is that? That’s what I believe is fundamentallly at the heart of the polling data. How does one convince them to think otherwise without tearing down many of their core religious beliefs?

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By: Anubis http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2009/04/17/white-us-evangelicals-most-skeptical-on-climate-change/comment-page-1/#comment-11663 Tue, 21 Apr 2009 15:02:40 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/?p=5254#comment-11663 Andrew, you have clearly made the point that humans don’t consider future consequences for present actions. Why should one concern themselves with actions not prohibited by the Book? Does it say “Thou shalt not burn fossil fuels”? It is easy to say a problem is someone else’s doing even if that someone else is a deity. This is not an excuse for inaction. What ever happened to “God helps those that help themselves”? And why should we do nothing about our fate when clearly we have the ability to mitigate it? I for one do not want to see the fate of a planet deferred to those who would see it’s end because of a prophetic religious conviction.

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By: Pete Cann http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2009/04/17/white-us-evangelicals-most-skeptical-on-climate-change/comment-page-1/#comment-11662 Tue, 21 Apr 2009 13:37:49 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/?p=5254#comment-11662 Andrew, if your home was on fire, would you get up and leave or just stay and pray?

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By: Andrew http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2009/04/17/white-us-evangelicals-most-skeptical-on-climate-change/comment-page-1/#comment-11656 Mon, 20 Apr 2009 22:11:41 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/?p=5254#comment-11656 The media has made a few big blunders recently and its just them basically pointing the finger at certain groups.

Climate change… its for real. But i believe in the bible. And the Climate change plays nicely into the nasty picture Revelations portrays. Scientist have contridicted themselves so much that it has become appearent that they dont know what will happen under these circumstances. Some things they think will happen or could happen.. and on an on it goes.

But theres alot that man dosnt know and only thinks he knows. And teaches to society like its the truth.

Since i believe in the bible.. im indifferent to the climate change. I do recognize that we are in uncharted waters as far as we know. But i believe God has it well in hand. So i wonder if these other “christains” have the same view. indiffernt, and its just being misinterpeted as not acknowledging the facts of climate change.

Besides… we are so far into uncharted water that point of no return was 10 years ago or so. Now we are in for the ride, like it or not. So did our “cars” put us over the edge? No. What ever needs to be done to facilate what the Lord has in store for us will be done. Wheather its out of a muffler or a volcanoe. Thy will be done.

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By: jd http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2009/04/17/white-us-evangelicals-most-skeptical-on-climate-change/comment-page-1/#comment-11654 Mon, 20 Apr 2009 13:35:24 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/?p=5254#comment-11654 pete cann: “reasonable” is a pregnant word, & implies objectivity and dispassionate analysis free of political baggage; ie, totally unrelated to global warming. the same data were trotted out during the global cooling farce, and the recommendations were also the same – you call this science? call it armageddon, ragnarok, goetterdaemmerung, or whatever – i call it crapola. ps: do you compost, take public transportation, and pay attention to exessive use of heating and cooling?

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