Comments on: U.S. faith groups push for healthcare reform

By: brian lee

brian lee — Mon, 06 Jul 2009 05:31:50 +0000

thanks for your comments tc,one of the factors that have had a profound influence in my judgment of the different positions that i take on health care is a miss trust of insurance companies.although i have this check i have to admit that their motive is profit orientated business and under certain circumstances they would have to conform to certain protocols that were imposed on them,and hopefully market forces would also make them more flexible.but the objections to these organizations completely vanish when i stand them beside the present congress that would be behind the administration of a government run health system.i cannot get into naming names because then you would not receive this posting, so i leave that to imagination.so on that basis i hope the government run scheme fails,and that we can make some provision for the uninsured who are mostly receiving treatment already.

By: TC

TC — Sun, 05 Jul 2009 18:28:35 +0000

Brian. Two things about Canada. When they need to have something done now, they come to the US. Also, we are warned time and again by the Canadians that we do not want anything to do with a government run health care program. It is a nightmare to get treatment, if you can get treatment at all.

By: brian lee

brian lee — Sun, 05 Jul 2009 00:03:37 +0000

tc me and you have had this debate before,and after having the nightmare of having to call at my local social security office which made the DMV look like paradise i am not looking forward to anything being run by the government.in england many wealthy people use private heath care,and the consultant doctors are allowed to have their own private patents as well as being employed by the national health service, to supplement their wages.but everyone over there have total respect for the dedicated work force and the system in principle.the twenty years i have lived in USA i have had HMO insurance and the quality of the treatment i have had,has been appalling,the only advice that i can give to people here is watch you are not over medicated.i wonder if there was a vote in canada if people would like to have the system that we have here.it is good that people like me and you tc are debating all the points. it scares both me and my wife at the prospect of a government run scheme in LA were we live,you would never get through the doors.

By: TC

TC — Thu, 02 Jul 2009 03:59:16 +0000

Topgun. I will start with Canada. They are having serious financial problems with their health care. It is not a scare tactic, just the truth.For instance, in Canada they will not cover certain procedures after a government determined age and if you want something covered for free you have to wait years for procedure.I have an aunt in Edmonton, Alberta. It is one of the better provinces regarding health care (not all provinces are equal). Anyway, after waiting for months to see a doctor about a problem she had the doctor said he could help her. If she wanted it done right away there was one clinic Alberta that would perform the procedure, however it would cost $2000.00 out of her pocket. If she wanted the free version, that would be no problem either. But here’s the sad fact, there is a 4 year waiting list….4 YEARS. She told the doctor she thought it was only a 2 year wait. His reply was, “that was last year”.So, anyone who thinks they are going to get quality health care for their ailments need to seriously consider the cost to their health. You will live with pain and depending on age, you will not be covered for certain government determined procedures or care.Just be careful what you wish for, you might not like the result.

By: topgun

topgun — Thu, 02 Jul 2009 01:57:58 +0000

“the public option will indeed lead to rationing of health care” Complete scare tactic. Absolutely NOT TRUE. Check with the 37 other industrialized nations that HAVE a national health care plan.

By: TC

TC — Wed, 01 Jul 2009 22:56:13 +0000

Charles, excellent point. However, the frightening concern is that people are not paying attention to what is happening.We should all pray health care reform, progressive style, does not happen. In particular, the public option will indeed lead to rationing of health care and will destroy the good health care people now have.Be careful what you wish for. Once people realize what is in store for them, it will be too late to turn around. You do not want the government to have anything to do with your health care decisions. It won’t work, it is unsustainable and it will lead to the rationing of your health care.

By: rajeev

rajeev — Wed, 01 Jul 2009 22:22:51 +0000

Charles,Good work. But I hope that you are not paranoid of the word “Progressive”.And before Soviets used THIS WORD in their clandestine communiations, what was it used for?

By: Charles

Charles — Wed, 01 Jul 2009 19:51:12 +0000

Any time the word “progressive” is used in a name, group or organization, one ought to pay attention. That name was used by the Soviets in their clandestine communiations with their agents identifying communists, marxists, left-wing radicals and fellow travelers that infiltrated our organizations. This was discovered later by NSA that broke the Soviet codes after WW II during operation Vinona.

By: jd

jd — Wed, 01 Jul 2009 17:15:40 +0000

i suppose, being progressives, the eighth commandment (“thou shalt not steal”) is irrelevant

By: brian lee

brian lee — Wed, 01 Jul 2009 14:59:42 +0000

hi eric h, what causes me to have some check with any thing to do with theses religious interest groups, is by the omission of, or any mention, of a group that have been doing this for many years, with out political motive,the salvation army,i wonder why?