Poll: Pakistanis against Taliban, disagree over sharia views

July 1, 2009

swat-talibanA new poll shows public opinion in Pakistan has turned sharply against the Taliban and other Islamist militants, even though they still do not trust the United States and President Barack Obama. Reporting on the poll, our Asia specialist in Washington, Paul Eckert, said the WorldPublicOpinion.org poll, conducted in May as Pakistan’s army fought the Taliban in the Swat Valley, found that 81 percent saw the Pakistani Taliban and al Qaeda as a critical threat to the country, a jump from 34 percent in a similar poll in late 2007. Read Eckert’s report here.

(Photo: Pakistani Taliban in Swat, 2 Nov 2007/Sherin Zada Kanju)

The poll shows a wide divergence between Pakistani public opinion and the views of the Taliban on the implementation of sharia, a religious issue sometimes cited to help explain earlier tolerance of the militants. Some 80 percent of the respondents said sharia permits education for girls, one of the first services the Taliban close down when they gain control of an area. And 75 percent said sharia allows women to work, which the Taliban do not.

Reflecting their distrust, 71 percent said they believed the Taliban would not even submit to the sharia courts that they themselves have set up or promised to install as a pure and speedy alternative to Pakistan’s corrupt and inefficient civil courts. Only 14 percent supported the Taliban claim that it could provide more effective and timely justice than the state, a claim that partly helped the Islamist militants in the past (although it must be added that only 56 percent expressed trust in the civil courts). Only 9 percent said they thought the Taliban would do better at fighting corruption than the government, which got a lukewarm 47 percent. In any case, these results seem to indicate very little support for trademark Taliban promises that once seemed attractive.

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If accurate, these findings mark a major shift from the results of a similar poll by WorldPublicOpinion.org in late 2007, not long after the Pakistani army flushed out Islamist militants who had taken control of the Red Mosque complex in the heart of Islambad. More than 100 died in the raid, including dozens of suspected militants and at least 10 troops. Some 64 percent said the raid was a mistake while only 22 percent supported the decision. A 60 percent majority believed that sharia should play a larger role in Pakistani law than it did at the time.

(Photo: Anti-Taliban rally in Lahore, 19 June 2009/Mohsin Raza)

Another poll, by the International Republican Institute, relativises this shift a bit. Conducted in March, before the height of the Taliban-army clash in Swat and the video of Taliban flogging a teenage local girl that reportedly turned Pakistani opinion against the militants, it shows more sympathy for the Taliban’s sharia demands. While 74 percent said religious extremism was a problem in Pakistan, 80 percent supported the introduction of sharia in Swat and 72 percent supported the government peace deal with the Taliban there. Some 56 percent said they would support the Taliban if they demanded sharia in other cities such as Karachi, Multan, Quetta or Lahore.

The relationship between traditional religious views and the Taliban in Pakistan and Afghanistan is so complex that I’m not sure any poll gives a very accurate picture. Unfortunately, neither poll examined in greater detail what those polled thought about sharia and how much of it should be applied in Pakistan. Does anyone have other poll results that give what they think is a better picture?


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UPDATE (July 2) Pakistani journalist Ahmed Rashid has an interesting opinion piece in the Los Angeles Times saying: “The Pakistani public, army and government have suddenly awakened to the Taliban threat. That is a crucial first step. But it will need strong international support to effectively respond.”

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The best survey was the defeat of the Islamist parties in the last election when they were defeated in their strongholds in NWFP, FATA and Baluchistan. When USA and its mischievous aims of killing innocents by drone attacks finishes and it leaves Afghanistan there will be complete peace in the area. These surveys are just meant to satisfy a certain audience and no more and provide results which have no merit.Pakistanis have always rejected Islamist parties perhaps the market researchers do not have any substantial background of the people or the sample selected!!

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Ratee, it’s interesting that you mention that vote. We noted that at the time in this Feb. 2008 blog post but so much has happened since then. It was a very interesting result, one that seems more in line with the present poll than with the previous ones.

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Tom,Thanks for the article, I have to say unequivocally and bluntly to all Pakistani’s directly that Politics and Religion must not exist in the same place.This concept is not a western thought only, one should realize that politics is dirty, filled with half-truths, it is aggressive, hateful, constant bad mouthing and attacking others, always pursuing one’s own motives….with that small thought, I would like to ask any Pakistani friend, here what place does such a dirty think like politics have in common with a pure and Godly book, like the Koran?It is that simply question that I pose and ask that all Pakistani’s draw the line and have a common understanding and common agreement that Religion and Politics MUST separate.This simple divorcing will bring a whole new level of progress, appreciation and advancement for Pakistani within and release the shackles of ignorance, hate, conspiracy stories and will release the minds of Pakistani’s to be free-thinkers, while still embracing the rules of Islam.Politics and Religion must divorce each other in Pakistan, because God is not a politician, God exists on a level all his own and none others can dwell there, I believe no Pakistani’s will disagree with that.

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Will The Pakistanis be against Taliban if Taliban decides to fight against India/Afghanistan? Terrorism should be condemned no matter whether it’s in our country or other countries. If the Pakistani rulers want to consider Taliban as a strategic asset, then only their God can save them

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@SunnyTerrorism and freedom struggle are too different things. When one is violently oppressed, like the Kashmiris or the Afghans under ths Soviets, one has the right to fight.This poll seems accurate to me as a Pakistani, my only regret is it took till April 2009 for Pakistanis to realize that Taliban/AQ and other wackos are bad. If this realization had happened in Sept 2001, Pakistan would not be facing the militant problems we are today.

I wouldn’t be surprised that in certain corners in Washinston & western capitals & in Delhi there are people who are rallying the Talaban on. Then an excuse arises to invade Pakistan. The Pakistani army in the very long run cannot defeat the Talaban. Once an invasion takes place the country is fragmented and the nuclear arsenal will cease to exist. At that is the end to the war on terror.

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@Aamir Ali:Terrorism and freedom struggle are two different things? Aren’t they same depending on which side of the fence you are?You said “When one is violently oppressed, like the Kashmiris or the Afghans under ths Soviets, one has the right to fight”. Are you aware of the number of Kashmiri Pandits kicked out their homes in their homeland? What do you call the people who kicked them out? Terrorists or Freedom Fighters?On what basis did Pakistan gave a part of Kashmir to China,if that land belongs to Kashmiris or freedom fighters(in your parlance)?If Balochis resort to killing Pakistanis in response to killing of their leaders, do you call that as terrorism or freedom struggle?

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@Aamir Ali, Sunny,Farlix Dictionary:Noun 1. terroristterrorist – a radical who employs terror as a political weapon; usually organizes with other terrorists in small cells; often uses religion as a cover for terrorist activitiesWebster Dictionary:the systematic use of terror especially as a means of coercionOxford Dictionary:a person who uses violence and intimidation in the pursuit of political aimsAs one can see, one who commits acts of terrorism, their means are based on religion, intimidation and threats of violence, this does not see much different than what a lot of Pakistani Proxy army groups, supported by the Pak Army are doing.Mr. Tom Heneghan by this definition, do you think that the LeT, JuD, HuM, Taliban are Terrorists? When you take the literal definition, they are not freedom fighters, but terrorists and murderers and they are all trained or supported at one time or another by the Pakistani Army.If these groups that we call terrorists were nurtured and created and supported, trained and armed by the Pakistani Army, then what would one call the Pakistani Army and the ISI?Any takers? Tom, do you have a comment or opinion on this?What should we label those who morally support, train, arm and supply separatist groups against India?I believe India has yet to receive any official dossiers, accusing them of committing terrorism or complicity of it against another country, from any of their state agencies.

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please make a distinction between freedom struggle and terrorism….don’t drag our freedom fight against punjabi occupiers into this discussion.http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/ default.asp?page=2009%5C06%5C10%5Cstory_ 10-6-2009_pg7_21One killed in targeted killing in QuettaQUETTA: Unidentified attackers on Tuesday killed a Punjabi-speaking settler and burnt the official car of a Balochistan minister in two separate acts of violent in Quetta.The Punjabi settler, identified as Mohammad Ajmal, was shot in Qili Bangulzai locality of Quetta,Ajmal was an employee of a caterer in the provincial capital.The reason for the killing was not clear, but the incident appeared to be a part of the recent series of targeted killings of Punjabis in Balochistan.

Taliban buying Pakistani children for suicide bombershttp://washingtontimes.com/news/2 009/jul/02/taliban-buying-children-to-se rve-as-suicide-bomber/?feat=home_top5_sh aredThere are 10,000 Chinese workers engaged in 120 projects in Pakistan todayhttp://www.forbes.com/2009/07/02/ru ba-china-pakistan-trade-sidebar.htmlPaki stanis keep thinking about Kashmir and India. Who is going to think about Pakistanis and their future?

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Aamir Ali,According to your logic, the Balochis and the Pashtuns should also get their freedom from Pakistan, should they not? After all, they are fighting their freedom struggle against an oppressive Pakistani regime for last six decades. They’ve no fair representation in power, no development and no acceptance in mainstream Pakistan. In fact, Pakistan ruthlessly kills the freedom fighters with helicopter gunships, fighter jets and heavy artillery. So, Aamir, when is Pakistan going to give independence to the Balochis and the Pashtuns?

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It’s good that the Pakistani people see no value in the Taliban. Hopefully, Pakistani elites catch on and stop viewing them as “strategic assets” too. It’s pretty ridiculous that the Pakistan Army only fights those Taliban who are fighting Pakistani forces and leaves Afghan insurgents alone. This distinction between “good” and “bad” Taliban has to end. Does it not matter to the PA that somewhere Taliban are harrassing Pashtuns? Should it matter on which side of the Durand line that happens?

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Sunny you said:”Will The Pakistanis be against Taliban if Taliban decides to fight against India/Afghanistan? Terrorism should be condemned no matter whether it’s in our country or other countries. If the Pakistani rulers want to consider Taliban as a strategic asset, then only their God can save them”Sunny I would like to make a distinction here, you can’t smear all Pakistani’s the same, I think what you need to ask if the “Pakistani Pujabi Military Junta Ruling Pakistan for 60 years” would consider the Taliban terrorists, if they are fighting against India and Afghanistan.In short answer, Sunny, “NO”. I don’t think Pakistan considers the Taliban terrorists, as long as they hurt others and not Pakistan. Sad but true, I challenge anyone here to dispute that.

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Terrorism should be avoided by everyone. It is like consuming an explosive to clear the guts. It causes long lasting damage to a society even after achieving its purpose by brutal means. I am happy that Pakistanis are seeing the danger of using terrorism as a weapon by their administrators. As people, they must seek peaceful means to achieve anything. The Kashmiri people are using non violent protests against the Indian military. That will help highlight their plight in the international arena. But using terrorism will negate all their efforts and turn off international sympathy. I do read about the excesses by the Indian security forces in Kashmir. But I have great regards for India as a democratic nation. My sincere request to Pakistanis, as their American friend, is to eschew terrorism and embrace peaceful means to achieve any objective. You will get the sympathy and support of the world when you consciously avoid support to any militancy. You might even see India turning around to extend hands of friendship. We all will get to gain. As an ordinary American citizen, I’d love to see peace prevail in the sub-continent, which is made of wonderful people. The survey mentioned in this article is very encouraging. Good luck to you all.

Global Watcher:”Sunny I would like to make a distinction here, you can’t smear all Pakistani’s the same, I think what you need to ask if the “Pakistani Pujabi Military Junta Ruling Pakistan for 60 years” would consider the Taliban terrorists, if they are fighting against India and Afghanistan.”I have no intention to smear ALL Pakistanis. In fact, there might be many of ordinary Pakistanis who are peace-loving and want to see their nation to be known as a developed country rather than a failed state.However, I was responding to the article title and it mentions about Pakistanis in general(poll).Just the way the minds of Taliban are filled with hatred towards anyone who doesn’t accept their ideology, the minds of Pakistanis are filled with hatred by their military and civilian rulers against India .Everyone knows who created Taliban. Pakistanis can argue that US was also involved in the creation. But would they question as to who allowed Pakistan to become a puppet? They take pride in that their army is fighting a tough battle against Taliban to save their country. But why are they blinded to the fact that it was the army itself that had brought such mayhem to their country.In pre-internet age it was not possible for them to get access to the real information. All they believed in was what they studied in their text books and the media. But even in this age when so much information is available on the net, the educated Pakistanis keep arguing on the basis of what they learnt in school/media.If someone is showing them the mirror to clean up their face then nobody including their God can save them if THEY CHOOSE TO CLOSE THEIR EYES.

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GW writes: “I don’t think Pakistan considers the Taliban terrorists, as long as they hurt others and not Pakistan.”This is the unfortunate part. And this kind of feeling is not confined to Pakistanis alone. It is prevalent across the entire sub-continent. People remain ignorant so long as others get to bear the brunt of any calamity. When it comes to them, they want all sympathy and attention. When the East India company came in, every ruler allowed them to decimate their “enemies,” not knowing that they themselves were falling into the same trap. The East India company could use the internecine rivalry to their advantage and take over the entire sub-continent. A small country, similar in size to Sri Lanka, could rule with an iron hand, a huge land with a population many times its own size by exploiting this emotional weakness in the denizens of this land. Unfortunately this nature still persists. Taliban was all right for Pakistanis so long as they ruled Afghanistan. If their women were lashed in public or citizens beheaded, schools shut down, Pakistanis considered them as a strategic “depth” to counter India. And when the Taliban began to do the same in their own territory, they are talking as though someone from outside brought it and imposed it on them. Now they are fighting them. Kashmiri Muslims are protesting for their rights against Indian occupation. But the same Kashmiri Muslims did not care when their Hindu brethren were slaughtered and driven out of their homeland. In Mumbai, the Shiv Sena wants to drive out all non-Maharashtrians by using violence. In Sri Lanka, it is Tamils versus Sinhalese. This does not seem to end. We all need to become conscious of our current state and try to change.

Terrorism is not subjective. It is a concrete definition.A person who directly attacks civilian targets, for the purposes of intimidating and dominating that group, are terrorists.It does not matter why they do it. Motive does not matter. What matters is the fact that they directly attack innocent people.When a group fights against enemy soldiers, then it is resistance.When they kidnap, murder and kill civilians with carbombs, it is terrorism.Pakistan then needs to ask themselves a simple question. Are the Taliban resistance, or terrorists?

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No one controls the terrorists or freedom fighters anywhere. They get covert support based on how their objectives coincide with national interests. But they never are consistently linked to a nation’s policies. I do not deny that there are personnel inside our intelligence agency and military who covertly support terrorists because they seem to be meeting their ideals. This does not mean that the whole nation is unanimous in supporting terrorism. I know that the general Indian does not care or support their Shiv Sena or militant organizations inside India. I would not say all Indians unanimously supported the Tamil rebels either. No one controls these groups entirely. Most of the time the militant groups run with their own agenda and they will only do so far to help the national defense objectives, so long they get the needed resources to build their strength. Taliban was useful to Pakistan’s regional objectives. Unfortunately, Taliban had its own objectives which did not coincide with Pakistan’s interests. The same with the LTTE or Khalistani militancy in the case of India. They met the objectives on certain fronts and when they did not match, the two turned against the system. There will always be disagreements. And militant leaders are super charged individuals who are in a hurry to get their objectives achieved. And violence is the way they want to achieve those ends. Any system will use them and toss them. No one is an exception to this. So I do not understand why Pakistan alone is being singled out. We did not create the Al Qaeda. We did not support them either. But their objectives coincided with ours for sometime. But we had no control over their global objectives. We would never have allowed them to take on New York or London or Bali. It is unfortunate. These things are never going to disappear. I am sure there are cranky generals in the Pentagon who love wars and if given a chance, will create them. Look at what Dick Cheney and Rumsfeld did in Iraq. This is a never ending game. Kindly do not blame Pakistan alone. Every country is inside a glass house.

Extracts from a Daily Mail article by the highly respected John Humphrys:Inside a Pakistani school where children are being brainwashed into terrorists (02/07/2009)…a primer distributed in private religious schools aimed at children in their first year.Here’s part of the ‘alphabet’:A is for Allah.B is for bandook (gun).T is for thakrau (collision). The picture illustrating ‘collision’ was a jet airliner crashing into the side of the World Trade Centre.Z is for zenmoub (sin). It is illustrated by pictures of alcohol, guitars, a television and a chess set.Hamid Gul is a former head of Pakistan’s intelligence service, the ISI. He told the writer William Dalrymple recently that for more than 20 years the ISI has, for its own purposes, ‘deliberately and consistently funded and incubated’ a variety of Islamist groups including militant Taliban organisations. They saw them as an ‘ingenious and cost-effective means of both dominating Afghanistan and bogging down the Indian army in Kashmir.’The problem is that once you have trained and unleashed an attack dog you cannot be absolutely sure that it will not turn and bite you or your children – which is what has happened with the militant Taliban in Pakistan.Nor can you negotiate with fundamentalists. The Pakistani government has tried that – giving way to them in the North West Frontier province, even allowing Sharia law to be introduced in parts of it. But the Taliban took what they were given, brutalised the people under their control, and demanded more.Finally, the Pakistani army went in with their tanks, heavy artillery and helicopter gunships. While I was in Karachi the defence minister claimed victory – but many I spoke to in Pakistan were sceptical.’Where are the bodies of the Taliban?’ they asked me. ‘Why have they not produced them for the cameras?’Pakistan is now regarded as a dangerous place to visit. British Airways no longer flies here.The manager of the hotel where I stayed told me a big British bank had cancelled a conference of senior executives who were due to arrive the next day. They were afraid to come.When a state is threatened by a foreign power its people rally behind the flag. But when the threat comes from within, they have to feel they have a real stake in the defeat of the enemy – and it’s easy to see why many people in this country feel the state has not done enough for them to justify their unconditional support.

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@Mohammed Anjum”I do not deny that there are personnel inside our intelligence agency and military who covertly support terrorists because they seem to be meeting their ideals. This does not mean that the whole nation is unanimous in supporting terrorism.”Mohammed Anjum: It is inconvenient truth that Pakistan establishment has used terrorism as a foreign policy and till today they have not stopped doing that. I agree whole nation is not unanimous in supporting terrorism. That is given.Saying “No one controls the terrorists or freedom fighters anywhere. They get covert support based on how their objectives coincide with national interests.” is incorrect. This does not happen to be a coincidence that “objectives of terrorists coincide with national interests of Pakistan”. It is well planned use of terrorism for achieving national interests of Pakistan. LeT and other terrorists from Pakistan are very much controlled by Pakistan–so far. At some point the controll will decrease and might stop, but that does not mean Pakistan is not the culprit. Pakistan has to crackdown on these anti-India terrorists. Thinking Kashmir problem will suddenly make these cowards drop guns is stupidity at its best.

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Mr. Rajeev,If your country had been ideal in its values, never resorted to covert means to achieve its objectives in neighboring countries, you will have the moral high ground to advise me. You as an individual may not subscribe to your government’s policies. But East Pakistan was separated by a “quick surgical action.” Immediately you people mention genocide and refugee influx that prompted India to act. But there was no need to create Bangladesh. India could have returned East Pakistan back to Pakistan after defeating it. There is no denying that Pakistan lost that war. We have moved on. But we will settle the score when we can. Your country overtly trained Tamil rebels to destabilize Sri Lanka in the 1980s.The point I am making is that your country also has indulged in activities to destabilize other nations in the neighborhood, when it suited its interests. Right now your objectives are different and so you believe India will not resort to such means. But that is now for the time being. I see many of your compatriots wishing for a disintegration of Pakistan in this very forum. If common public have such feelings, I can bet there are those in your leadership and military/intelligence units who have similar ideas and ambitions.My point is this. We are willing to face your actions. We know that your intelligence is engaged in anti-Pakistan activities. All intelligence agencies do this. Kindly do not single out the ISI. I do not deny that our ISI has its tentacles for proxy wars. It has been tested and tried over the past three decades. It is a weapon against bigger powers. Ask the Soviets and they will tell you. And we are not going to give up that weapon. What we are facing now is due to a calculated risk that we have taken. These weapons can turn against you. Ask your IPKF and they will tell you. But we have the will power to handle them.We will not give up this weapon until we get fair justice. Kashmir is ours and India took it by force. In today’s conditions, I can go as far as liberating Kashmir at least as an independent nation. That will settle our scores for East Pakistan. If India did not create Bangladesh, Kashmir will not be burning now. We have made sure that we cannot be stamped out anymore by developing nuclear weapons. So come to the negotiating table and discuss about either handing over Kashmir to us or letting them go as an independent nation.Trust me, we can do this, while handling the Taliban. The US wants to finish them off and we are closing the gates on them. So it is only a short time. And we learn from our mistakes. We will figure out what mistakes were made and come out with better plans to protect our interests. Do not think that our only goal is to destabilize India. It is Kashmir that is the root cause of all issues between us. Settle it and we will go our own way. LeT can have whatever policy it wants. But they will settle for Kashmir.

@ We know that your intelligence is engaged in anti-Pakistan activities.”-No evidence so far, as acknowledged by your Minister Mr. Kaira after the incamera meeting of all Pakistani politicians. He said that Paki will get concrete evidence about Indian involvement in helping Taliban. I say until then Shut up.@In today’s conditions, I can go as far as liberating Kashmir at least as an independent nation. That will settle our scores for East Pakistan.”-U must be out of ur mind to expect that India listens to your open statement of settling scores.@But East Pakistan was separated by a “quick surgical action.”-No, that was the slowest war in terms of build up because of pakistani elctions/E Pakistani winning jaority but not allowed to form govt, then the historry follows. It is in records that in Dec??. 1971, Pakistam launched pre-emptive airstrikes against India and then India responded. Go check history.@ I do not deny that our ISI has its tentacles for proxy wars. …. weapon against bigger powers. ……And we are not going to give up that weapon.”–All nations have spy agencies but few act like terrorist organization that ISI does. Keep this weapon to urself and do not openly flash in the air and hurt others, keep it for defense/national security not neibhours’ destruction.@ I see many of your compatriots wishing for a disintegration of Pakistan in this very forum. If common public have such feelings, I can bet there are those in your leadership and military/intelligence units who have similar ideas and ambitions.”–Think from their POV. Perhaps they are really angry and frustrated that they say that. Dawn coumnist Irfan Hussain has a nice article in Dawn about the need of Pakistani to understand Indian anger. Read that. Have u missed those majority Indians who say stability of Pakistan is good for India and vice-versa? Until now Indian leaders have been using diplomacy as tool and that has not been very effective. Pakistan whole populace cannot think from Indian POV that there is a genuine anger among Indians and that there is evidence to act against the terrorists who did Mumbai attack (also others) but Pakistan won’t. Taliban experince tells that Pakistan will not act until its bottom really is set on the fire.@LeT can have whatever policy it wants. But they will settle for Kashmir.-LeT has a policy that Pakistan wants. LeT/Kasab types are pakistani blue eyed boys. Until they are not caught they are called freedom fighters and when caught called non-state actors/not true Muslims. It is really screwed up and I wonder how do Pakistanis take that in the name of Islam.

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Mohammed Anjum:My last post was for you

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They are not a Muslim, Because Islam don’t give the Suicide Bomber Permission on Muslim, Masjid, Immam Bargha and all Innocent Peoples. They are Prepare Professional Group. The Concept of Taliban was created to promote false idea about Islam and blame the Islam & Muslim potential Terrorist.talibaan are raw and mosad agent..

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They are not a Muslim, Because Islam don’t give the Suicide Bomber Permission on Muslim, Masjid, Immam Bargha and all Innocent Peoples. They are Prepare Professional Group. The Concept of Taliban was created to promote false idea about Islam and blame the Islam & Muslim potential Terrorist.

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@Ahsan Naqvi:How come your comments are the same as that of Rizwan Akhtar? Are you inspired by your ‘Father of Pakistan nuclear program’ A.Q. Khan in COPYING/STEALING other’s work?Anywayz, coming to your(?) comments, you said:”They are not a Muslim, Because Islam don’t give the Suicide Bomber Permission on Muslim, Masjid, Immam Bargha and all Innocent Peoples. They are Prepare Professional Group. The Concept of Taliban was created to promote false idea about Islam and blame the Islam & Muslim potential Terrorist.”Who is the sole authority acting on behalf of Islam when you say Islam don’t give the permission?Rizwan Akhtar: “talibaan are raw and mosad agent..”Why was the Pakistan Army silent when Talibaan occupied Afghanistan? The Army wanted RAW/Mossad agents to be in power in Afghanistan? Or all of a sudden the Army realised that Taliban are RAW/Mossad agents when they started attacking Pakistan?Wake up and think with your little brain and then you will start understanding how the Army has been fooling you for so long and still doing.

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Mr. Anjum says:”Trust me, we can do this, while handling the Taliban. The US wants to finish them off and we are closing the gates on them. So it is only a short time. And we learn from our mistakes. We will figure out what mistakes were made and come out with better plans to protect our interests. Do not think that our only goal is to destabilize India. It is Kashmir that is the root cause of all issues between us. Settle it and we will go our own way. LeT can have whatever policy it wants. But they will settle for Kashmir.”Kashmir is the tip of the iceberg, there is a deobandi Islamic push to re-occupy India and reforce an oppressive style of Islam upon it, on that basis, Kashmir will not budge an inch from India’s hand. Bangladesh was not separated by and created by India, it was done by the people of Bangladesh themselves, who suffered genocide and a slaughterous murder at the hands of West Pakistani Army. It always was the choice of East Pakistani’s to remain with Pakistan or not, it was not India’s choice, it was the will of those people there.Thirdly, India was not supporting Tamil Tigers, it was infact the world wide Tamil Diaspora, which was collecting money to fight Sri Lanka. Just like the Sikh diaspora was sending money to buy weapons for the Sikh insurrection against their own motherland. Thank God, that Sikhism, a peaceful loving religion was not hijacked permanently for political means by a filthy few and the filthy few in Pakistan who armed them.You want Kashmir, come and take it.

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Mr. AnjumMy personal prediction is that if Kashmir was given away to Pakistan, the Pakistani Army would occupy that land and use that land to make further inroads into the Indian subcontinent and stage further stablization into India.If 1971 is any indication, India is ready, as always for any criminal land grabs by Pakistan, the next time, Pakistan will be further separated, if it attempts another war or any problems with India. You can’t use your nukes, unfortunately to take that land, your nukes are ineffective.Thank God A.Q. Khan was better as a technological thief and illegal proliferator of nuclear technology than an actually an intelligent man with a brain, and compassion towards mankind, like Albert Einstein, no insult to Mr. Einsten of course.Pakistan has always excelled at lying, stealing and murdering innocents. Congrats.

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Mr. Tom Heneghan,Today, I just saw a snippet of an interview with CNN’s Michael Ware and he said that the Pakistani Army is willing to broker a truce with the Taliban, on behalf of the U.S. I find this quite laughable and truly believe that President Obama is being had and lied to and being manipulated.It is also quite laughable that the CIA once allied with the notorious and insidious Lt. Gen. Hamid Gul, former head of ISI Services in Pakistan. Lt. Gen. Hamid Gul is also known by all in Pakistan as the GODFATHER of the TALIBAN and friend of Mullah Omar.It appears that the U.S. is entertaining dialogue using Hamid Gul as an intermediary with Mullah Omar, the leader of the Taliban.Is it just me, or is the U.S. and Obama extremely naive to believe anything that Pakistan says.The depth of lying and double dealing by Pakistan’s state agencies, its Army, its retired officers and its Intelligence Agencies is appalling, mind-blowing and staggering. Almost unfathomable. India knows what they are like and I am suprised that the U.S. continues to display its naivity, this will be the undoing of its efforts in Afghanistan, as Pakistan is probably still supplying the Taliban in Afghanistan to kill American and NATO troops.The U.S. is being had, plain and simple and using the Taliban card as an excuse to leverage the U.S. against India.While Pakistan pretends to take on the Taliban, the man, Lt. Gen. Hamid Gul, who created them, like all other terrorists in Pakistan walks free and the U.S. is not exerting its muscle, the way it should and saying anything of value to reign in Pakistan.It is a good thing that Pakistan has no oil, I am sure the Neocons in the U.S. would have flattened it along time ago, as done in Iraq.If some in Pakistan believe that India is fomenting unrest in Pakistan, let it send a detailed Dossier with concrete evidence.In the end, it appears that the Billions of Dollars given by Bush and the Billions given by Obama, the IMF and UN member nations as of recent have and are being used to build more Nuclear bxmbs, supply and arm the Taliban to destablize the U.S. and NATO effort and create more proxy terrorism against India.Mr. Obama and Mr. Singh of India need to discuss a greater and stronger military alliance to keep Pakistan honest and in check. Pakistan’s goals are wreak havoc as much as possible, wherever they can. Nothing productive has ever come out of Pakistan, or giving aid to Pakistan.

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ISI’s double gameUS death toll at 647, NATO at 1450 …”Pakistan’s military has declared that not only is it in contact with Afghan Taliban leader Mullah Mohammed Omar but that it can bring him and other commanders to the negotiating table with the United States”http://edition.cnn.com/2009/WORLD  /asiapcf/07/10/pakistan.taliban.omar/#c nnSTCText

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Xinjiang Effect!Official: Pakistan can help broker U.S.-Taliban talkshttp://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/asiap cf/07/10/pakistan.taliban.omar/index.htm lTwo days back, when Hu got back to China from G8, he immediately got in touch with Kiyani and asked him to get rid of all talibans and alikes. China is now scared about Taliban trained Uigers. So under Chinese pressure, ISI invented this new game to keep all strategic assets alive for tomorrow.Second, with recent intense drone attacks, Pakistan is realizing this is the only way to keep taliban alive. and ISI can kill so many birds with one stone:1. Taliban stays alive to fight tomorrow if needed2. Pakistan gets US billions3. China can be convinced that Taliban disappeared or moved to Afghanistan and no longer Pakistan’s problem4. Pakistan extort more US weapons and may be a nuclear deal from USA5. Pakistan gets to keep anti-India terrorists6. And Pakistan gets accolades and more aid as a peace makerBut the most important thing is:1. Pakistan was playing double game with US/NATO since 2001.2. Now we all know that ISI knows where is Mulla Omar.3. If Pakistan had made this statement in 2001, 647 US lives and 1500 NATO lives could have been saved.It is really tragic when you get allies like this!

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Very Very Peaceful Islam taught in Pak’s Madrassas ..Quoran explodes on innocent peace loving students ..http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid =20601091&sid=aOuNqXWaHvsw

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Pakistani Bloggers .. WATCHOUT ..If you make fun of Zardari, he’ll send U to jail for 14 years ..http://www.analyst-network.com/article .php?art_id=3032

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The failure of the Nizam-e-Adl accord in Swat exposed the Taliban for what they are: a bunch of gunmen greedy for power, money and women. I am glad finally the majority of Pakistanis have turned against them.These Pakistani Taliban are supported by India and have caused massive damage to Pakistan.