Comments on: Obama accuses some healthcare critics of “bearing false witness” http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2009/08/20/obama-accuses-some-healthcare-critics-of-bearing-false-witness/ Religion, faith and ethics Sat, 23 Apr 2016 23:25:07 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.5 By: Matt K http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2009/08/20/obama-accuses-some-healthcare-critics-of-bearing-false-witness/comment-page-1/#comment-14668 Mon, 24 Aug 2009 00:02:40 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/?p=7565#comment-14668 Why is it the only people complaining about Canadian health care are Americans?

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By: Joel http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2009/08/20/obama-accuses-some-healthcare-critics-of-bearing-false-witness/comment-page-1/#comment-14623 Fri, 21 Aug 2009 19:46:08 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/?p=7565#comment-14623 ‘‘(F) provide for timely acknowledgment, response, and status reporting applicable to any electronic transaction deemed appropriate by the Secretary;

There you go Boris any electronic transaction the Secretary deems appropriate. The Secretary decides when and how much they want to take.

‘‘(2) NONRESIDENT ALIENS.—Subsection (a) shall not apply to any individual who is a nonresident alien.

And that is about illegal aliens, if they are not going to be given medical benefits why do we need to make a special consideration about taxes applying to them?

If you want to have an intelligent conversation you should really read the BILL.

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By: Donna http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2009/08/20/obama-accuses-some-healthcare-critics-of-bearing-false-witness/comment-page-1/#comment-14619 Fri, 21 Aug 2009 16:17:39 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/?p=7565#comment-14619 Boris is obviously parroting the ACORN talking points. Blame it on talk radio, as if Americans aren’t smart enough to figure it out on their own.

All we have to do it read the bill, Boris, it is very easy to find anywhere. Maybe you should read the bill, also, or are you content with selling your soul and your credibility in the name of progressivism?

Your strategy is now apparent to all Americans. We don’t want your brand of socialism, and now that you have been exposed, your tricks will no longer work. How did it happen? Figure it out on your own.

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By: Donna http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2009/08/20/obama-accuses-some-healthcare-critics-of-bearing-false-witness/comment-page-1/#comment-14615 Fri, 21 Aug 2009 13:41:36 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/?p=7565#comment-14615 ”Bearing false witness”? How many campaign promises has Obama broken so far? How many lies has he told. He is choosing his words very carefully, but one can easily read between the lines. Too many Americans believe him, instead of reading what it says in the bill. If you listen to comments made in the past, though, he tells a different story. It depends on whom he is speaking to, of course.

I see, too, that the Obama machine is out in full force here with their huge cut and pasted ”messages” that they probably use a hundred times a day. Stay away from our ”young people”.

Stop with the lies. A majority of Americans do not want this bill. Your number for the un-insured in this country is over-stated, especially if you were to specify the number of Americans who choose not to have insurance.

Also, maybe someone should start pointing out that it is not just right-wing groups who oppose this bill. Party does not even come into it. It is a power grab, a threat to our freedom and right to choose, and that invokes resistance from all segments of the population.

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By: Marky http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2009/08/20/obama-accuses-some-healthcare-critics-of-bearing-false-witness/comment-page-1/#comment-14613 Fri, 21 Aug 2009 11:36:00 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/?p=7565#comment-14613 America is going broke!
Employers can hardly keep up with the skyrocketing cost of healthcare. Health care providers are challenged by dwindling numbers on their insured roles. It is a recepie for disaster.

Bottom line: Americans can no longer afford the American Dream and health insurance is/was an element of that dream.

Solution:
National health care with limited benefits, but enough to politically appease sects and subgroups. Effect will be some procedures, available under private health care will not be available under national health care. Pure dollars and cents calculations.

What will our children be left with:
A color selection choice just like in Soylent Green!

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By: Ken Sears http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2009/08/20/obama-accuses-some-healthcare-critics-of-bearing-false-witness/comment-page-1/#comment-14612 Fri, 21 Aug 2009 08:35:55 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/?p=7565#comment-14612 If this man Obama were not viscerally, perhaps even subconsciously, sold out lock-stock-and-barrel to the megalomaniacal dream of recreating the whole world in his image – which means calling a whole new government-run (read, Obama-run) medical universe into being ex nihilo – why, he could have actually done something, something real, something practical, something good. We do need more competition on the health insurance playing field – so, Mr. Obama, how about you trash the arcane prohibition on inter-state competition, hmm? The costs passed on to patients for stratospherically high malpractice insurance are outrageously insupportable. So, Mr. Obama, how ’bout you show some real leadership on tort reform, hmm? There is so much else besides. Many ways, without trying to stage a Genesis One Redux, to get the job done. Instead, Mr. Obama runs around idiotically squawking, “We have to do this, because we can’t do nothing!” In Mr. Obama’s universe, it’s his plan or nothing. Meanwhile, lots of people are proposing perfectly reasonable, and better, alternatives… but all Mr. Obama hears is… nothing.

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By: brian lee http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2009/08/20/obama-accuses-some-healthcare-critics-of-bearing-false-witness/comment-page-1/#comment-14609 Fri, 21 Aug 2009 04:29:30 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/?p=7565#comment-14609 It time to reclaim the airways!Boris it is the very sinew of socialism,do we not see this scene played out all the time when you have a leftist government promising utopia and then falling short of the mark. You started the year with all the numbers yet you are failing dismally,you can,t blame the republicans it is your shout, you are becoming a laughing stock as you run around like chickens with out heads,the chickens are certainly coming home to roost. Even the clunker program seems to be beyond your pay level when it comes to organization. How can expect people to believe that capable of running health care,give us a break!

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By: TC http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2009/08/20/obama-accuses-some-healthcare-critics-of-bearing-false-witness/comment-page-1/#comment-14604 Thu, 20 Aug 2009 22:52:33 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/?p=7565#comment-14604 Wow Boris. Your rant sounds like a person who knows he on a sinking ship, so decides to make personal attacks based on nothing rational or true.

Health care in this country needs to be tweaked. No one is arguing that important point. However, the clear majority of Americans do not want what Canada, Great Britain, Germany, France…and so on, have to offer.

Their systems all “ration” health care. They all clearly say they cannot afford all health care needs. The older citizens are put out to pasture to die. All of these things make the government/co-op health care fiasco mucking around in congress unachievable. People are rightfully afraid of government control of their health care. The person who said Germany in the 1930’s turned into a monster were right. And please don’t see it can’t happen here. No one then thought it would happen to them either.

Government control is not what this country is all about. Your rant proves your side is on a sinking ship. America is better off without anything Obama has to offer. I said this since before he was elected. The American people have proved me right.

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By: borisjimski http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2009/08/20/obama-accuses-some-healthcare-critics-of-bearing-false-witness/comment-page-1/#comment-14603 Thu, 20 Aug 2009 22:12:36 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/?p=7565#comment-14603 TC, I see you’re getting your “facts” from Rush again. CD Walker, NWaff, Brian Lee, Typical Obama, Joel, Taylee, you too. There is no provision for abortion in the bills (note plural) being worked out in Congress, nor is there any coverage of illegal aliens or grants of access to your bank accounts. I really can’t believe how gullible you people are to the bile the wingnut radio ranters spew to keep up their ratings. And the current poll numbers are reflection of all this lying going on on our public airwaves. It’s time we reclaimed our airwaves from the habitual liars. And since when did anyone have to follow someone else’s version of religion in this country? Not since before the 1st Amendment was passed, that’s when, so your religiosity is coming off as sanctimony. That National Prayer Breakfast is sponsored by the same crackpots who own that place on C Street where “true conservative christian” GOP pols like Sanford go for absolution of their philandering. Grow up and learn to think with your head, not your glands.

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By: Joe Parka http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2009/08/20/obama-accuses-some-healthcare-critics-of-bearing-false-witness/comment-page-1/#comment-14602 Thu, 20 Aug 2009 21:55:07 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/?p=7565#comment-14602 That’s such a sweet story. But guess what: if Canada ever get’s an extremely crooked leader, Canadians are f@#$d. The beneficence of such a program is based on the assumption and the government is benign and can be trusted—and they can’t. Certainly not our government and not in these times. Just step out of line with the party doctrine see how long you as an individual still have health care. The hook will be in your nose. Remember the Nastional Socialist German Workers Party came to power in a pure democracy. AFter that, you either did what they wanted or else NO BENEFITS FOR YOU. NO SOUP FOR YOU!!

Besides, If Bush would have done this the liberals would have raise the same commotion. I’m for health insurance reform, especially to cover unemployed citizens, but this Obamacare is a recipe for totalitarianism.

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