Comments on: Did God stop CERN from discovering the “God particle”? http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2009/10/13/did-god-stop-cern-from-discovering-the-god-particle/ Religion, faith and ethics Sat, 23 Apr 2016 23:25:07 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.5 By: zhigangzhou http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2009/10/13/did-god-stop-cern-from-discovering-the-god-particle/comment-page-3/#comment-23594 Sun, 14 Feb 2010 08:26:04 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/?p=9066#comment-23594 What is God Particle? According my fresh thought:
1. It is a naked singularity of mass or the smallest black hole in the Universe;
2. It has huge naked mass, gravitation and inertia;
3. It is not a material particle;
4. It is not in the Standard Model of elementary particles;
5. It is an Ultimate Particle, cannot be decay;
6. Its Mass cannot be converted into energy;
7. The lowest limit of its mass is about 10.9?g, and the upper limit is about 0.67*10^6kg, that means that its mass may be exceeded one kilogram!
8. Estimated mass of Higgs Particle is about 16 orders of magnitude smaller than lower limit of Mass of God Particle at least. So the mass of God Particle is substantially undervalued by mainstream physics
9. So Higgs particle is not God particle;
10. And so I believe that to find the God particle with LHC is an impossible mission, LHC efforts will be ended in failure, and it is destined. I think that to find God Particle with colliders (such as LHC) is an extremely extravagant wrong way.

How to find God Particle?
Based on my bran-new thread, I design several kinds of very simple and very cheap physical experimental methods to find the God particle, to make a small black hole and to create new unknown stable material particles without using any accelerator or collider such as LHC.
Maybe to find God Particle is not a hard mission for me?
Revolution in Physics will soon arrival, believe me.

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By: ScienceAdvocate http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2009/10/13/did-god-stop-cern-from-discovering-the-god-particle/comment-page-3/#comment-18645 Fri, 23 Oct 2009 01:37:21 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/?p=9066#comment-18645 Hey, don’t insult my faith, theists!

Is it not rather curious that this argument, rephrased for their side of the argument, is commonly used respectably by Christians and other theists, but when used by an atheist such as myself, it sounds ridiculous? Think for a moment: why does this disparity exist? Why is religion given a free pass for irrationality in our scientific, rational world?

Respect my belief in the non-existence of God/gods, already!

Of course, this argument really is not an argument at all. It is merely a ploy to avoid argument, often deployed by the losing side to preserve their dignity.

Oh, and Bob, your argument for the order in the world is easily dispelled by one powerful theory: evolution. Plase, don’t disparage it as “only a theory”, nothing in science is absolute, even gravity is only a theory, albeit a very well-substantiated one, as is evolution

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By: mick http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2009/10/13/did-god-stop-cern-from-discovering-the-god-particle/comment-page-2/#comment-18631 Thu, 22 Oct 2009 16:02:07 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/?p=9066#comment-18631 Cern has nothing to do with anyones idea of what God is or isn’t. Cern is pandoras box. It’s a really really bad idea to try to rip holes into other dimensions; you may get something you can’t put back. Remember when you cut something up, what do you have? A disection.

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By: Anirudh Kumar Satsangi http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2009/10/13/did-god-stop-cern-from-discovering-the-god-particle/comment-page-2/#comment-18623 Thu, 22 Oct 2009 06:29:08 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/?p=9066#comment-18623 According to His Holiness Huzur Maharaj, the Second Most Revered Spiritual Head of Radhasoami Faith had stated : “Love or Force of attraction (i.e. the Force of Cohesion) is the Param Tattva or the chief ingredient of the creation, i.e. the entire creation has come into existence out of Love and is sustained by Love.” In scientific terminology this is known as Gravity.

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By: Max Power http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2009/10/13/did-god-stop-cern-from-discovering-the-god-particle/comment-page-2/#comment-18476 Mon, 19 Oct 2009 07:41:50 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/?p=9066#comment-18476 AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGHH! God blarghy blargh Science blarghy blargh

enough already. don’t belive everything you read on the net. get outside and see the sun is still shining.

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By: unknown http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2009/10/13/did-god-stop-cern-from-discovering-the-god-particle/comment-page-2/#comment-18473 Mon, 19 Oct 2009 05:50:41 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/?p=9066#comment-18473 It was lack of information that’s it. The experiment failed. The spirit of human to pursue the answers via science should not die. If one listened to these religious torch bearers, one will not even be able to think freely. These religious torch bearers ensure a lavish, super duper flamboyant lifestyle for themselves by fooling people. They should infact be taxed like any other profit making entity so that science can progress. Let these religious torch bearers live without output of science products. Let them run around in their ancient tools of transport like mule donkey. Why the heck these guys use products made by human efforts via science like computer. Use your book… Religious torch bearers are of twisted, evil, wicked mind, they are not even true to themselves… Religious torch bearers inspire people to commit genocides.

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By: Pete Cann http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2009/10/13/did-god-stop-cern-from-discovering-the-god-particle/comment-page-2/#comment-18404 Sat, 17 Oct 2009 14:46:01 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/?p=9066#comment-18404 Religious people can be pretty vicious. I’m not sure they can lay much claim to being moral. A lot of work is now being done on rational, atheist ethics. One careful and fascinating treatment is Good and Real, by Gary L. Drescher, from the MIT Press (Massachusetts Institute of Technology). He appears to have established that you should serve the interests of others for the sake of yours being served, even in secret.

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By: Teapot Believer http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2009/10/13/did-god-stop-cern-from-discovering-the-god-particle/comment-page-2/#comment-18399 Sat, 17 Oct 2009 08:21:14 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/?p=9066#comment-18399 There is no way that it could be god. Because there is no evidence god actually exists. Or that god was behind it.

It is far more likely that the particle was prevented by the Invisible Flying Chocolate Teapot. Because we have direct scientific evidence this is not the case.

After all, if the Invisible Flying Chocolate Teapot didn’t exist, we wouldn’t not be able to not not see it.

See? Not even creationists can claim that.

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By: bob pielage http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2009/10/13/did-god-stop-cern-from-discovering-the-god-particle/comment-page-2/#comment-18390 Sat, 17 Oct 2009 02:40:50 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/?p=9066#comment-18390 This is the most stupidest science article I have ever read.

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By: Anon http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2009/10/13/did-god-stop-cern-from-discovering-the-god-particle/comment-page-2/#comment-18389 Sat, 17 Oct 2009 02:30:16 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/?p=9066#comment-18389 Bob.

Your post does not conform to the basic rules of logical argument. Your proof of god is nothing but circular reasoning. Your proof of creationism is nothing but “argument from ignorance”

So that others can see your logical failure for what it is, I have provided relevent links.
-http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Begging_th e_question
-http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_f rom_ignorance
-http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burden_of_ proof

In addition, your post contains errors, possibly intentional lies.

The massive piles of scientific evidence which exist today confirm and support all major scientific theories on evolution, biology, physics and chemistry. But in all this scientific evidence, not a shred shows evidence of a designer or deity.

Your entire belief system is based on no proof at all, except for your own preconceived baseless assumptions and a book which has no evidence of even being true.

Evolutionary scientists have never claimed that a god created life. Nor has Steven Hawkings ever claimed that a deity was responsible for creating the universe.

And even if an evolutionary scientist decided to humiliate himself by making such a claim, there is no scientific evidence that either is the case.

Your statement that some “athiestic (sic) scientists” have claimed that a god created the universe is simply absurd. An Athiest, by his very definition, does not believe in a deity.

All of which leads me to conclude you don’t know what you are talking about, or are simply parroting what you read on the discovery institute website.

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