Comments on: In abuse by Irish priests, a little “mental reservation” http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2009/11/29/in-abuse-by-irish-priests-a-little-mental-reservation/ Religion, faith and ethics Sat, 23 Apr 2016 23:25:07 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.5 By: Athlone http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2009/11/29/in-abuse-by-irish-priests-a-little-mental-reservation/comment-page-1/#comment-25600 Mon, 13 Sep 2010 04:14:23 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/?p=10047#comment-25600 I have read with great sadness the large number of abuse victims. However, there is no listing of the names of the offenders. I believe that it is important that their names be listed so that people who do come in contact with them, can be protected today. Is there a listing of names of the Catholic priests, nuns and brothers in Ireland who have been the aggressors?

Let’s protect the innocent before they become victims.

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By: P.J.Grant http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2009/11/29/in-abuse-by-irish-priests-a-little-mental-reservation/comment-page-1/#comment-24020 Sat, 03 Apr 2010 22:16:09 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/?p=10047#comment-24020 There is a Spirit at work in the Catholic Church–but it it not the Spirit of God.

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By: Chuck S. http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2009/11/29/in-abuse-by-irish-priests-a-little-mental-reservation/comment-page-1/#comment-22606 Tue, 01 Dec 2009 09:30:00 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/?p=10047#comment-22606 The church and the government have conspired too long on the pretext that this is strictly a church matter, to be dealt with internally, and the State must keep hands off. How many years has it been now, that the Catholic Church has dug in its heels, stonewalled, covered up, protected their frocked criminals, and betrayed the children past, present, and future, whose lives and welfare are entrusted to them. It’s time for the State to step up and remove the phony shield of “religious” immunity enjoyed by this gang of perverted monsters, treat them the same way any lay citizen would be treated in similar circumstances. And it’s high time the Catholic church either clean up it’s filth or dissolve. The list of victims is growing longer every day, and no one seems to care enough to do anything about it.

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By: Doctor Rosaleen Rogers http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2009/11/29/in-abuse-by-irish-priests-a-little-mental-reservation/comment-page-1/#comment-22543 Mon, 30 Nov 2009 19:10:33 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/?p=10047#comment-22543 IRISH S O C AWas formed to Campaign for victim`s rightsFighting for Justice by dayAnd answering the phone by nightThousands of members round the worldAll with questions to askThe Chairman he was exhaustedHe had a difficult taskSeveral volunteered, a committee was electedA brave group one fearedReferring victims to outreach workersA friend in the hour of needNo one asked about background, Religion, class, or creedExhaustion was the costThose on S O C A team their childhood they had lostNo State funding to repair emotional hurt on the spotOnly the Catholic Church and the Irish governmentCould step in and stop the rotS O C A sought for the truth and uncovered wicked liesNo one wanted heroes – there never would be a prizeEvery victim looked like a victimWith that far away look in their eyesThere would be no grand hotels where celebritiesWould have a photo callOnly broken hearted victims and a past beyond recallCourage was in short supplyBut each victim told their storySome cried, some fell silent,There would be no crowning gloryThere were many suicidesSome drowned themselves while depressedWhile others went on hunger strikeFacing death and nothing lessAnother sustained serious burnsS O C A Was there for him too…..We took it all in turnsDoctor RogersChairperson of Templemore Forgotten Victims

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By: BO PEEP ( eden and apple ) http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2009/11/29/in-abuse-by-irish-priests-a-little-mental-reservation/comment-page-1/#comment-22520 Mon, 30 Nov 2009 13:44:46 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/?p=10047#comment-22520 I am sweet Bo peep. Where is my Flock of Sheep. Gate keeper says Wolves are in with the Chickens even though the firmament looks stary

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By: Beekeeper from New Zealand http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2009/11/29/in-abuse-by-irish-priests-a-little-mental-reservation/comment-page-1/#comment-22507 Mon, 30 Nov 2009 11:15:42 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/?p=10047#comment-22507 Whats in a naming word language said Jesting PONTIUS Pilot. Irish Priests you Say. Perhaps try Catholic Church. Or derivitives Point to. SPLINTER GROUP of CHRISTIANITY called Catholic arranged as Catholic GAY Church. Not that there is anything Seinfelt about it. Pitty there is as yet no lesbian Churches. Sigh such sweet unkscion. i saw a perticularly fine Joke said by a fine comedian that he had given up homosexuality. And when asked why, he said it was because it made his eyes Water. Maybee Bo Peep never realy lost her Sheep flock. maybee Shaggers had them all along

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By: Robert http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2009/11/29/in-abuse-by-irish-priests-a-little-mental-reservation/comment-page-1/#comment-22469 Mon, 30 Nov 2009 02:26:09 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/?p=10047#comment-22469 The concept of mental reservation is more nuanced than was previously suggested and the previous interpretation is wrong. They never mentioned that it is necessary for the person not to have the right to know. Parents have the right to know as do the authorities, other hierarchy and parents whose children may be placed in such under such situations or have been. Accordingly by using mental reservations in such matters they definitely sinned. Here is a link to a very good article about mental reservations from a Catholic viewpoint.http://www.newadvent.org/cathe n/10195b.htm

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By: maria http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2009/11/29/in-abuse-by-irish-priests-a-little-mental-reservation/comment-page-1/#comment-22463 Sun, 29 Nov 2009 21:44:45 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/?p=10047#comment-22463 Apologies for sexual abuse of minors by Catholic clergy is called for, yet hardly a complete reparation for the grave damage suffered by survivors of such horrific abuse on either side of the Atlantic Ocean.The fact that our own hierarchy have yet to place a strong and open emphasis on the Magisterial Teaching of The Catechism of the Catholic Church #2356 which unabashedly states that rape of children is always an INTRINSICALLY EVIL ACT AND CAUSES GRAVE DAMAGE THAT CAN SCAR THE VICTIM FOR LIFE is appalling and should raise the eyebrows and ire of any Catholic, practicing or not.As a survivor of child abuse myself, a former health professional and life long Catholic I advocate for a strong and persistent call for this teaching to be clearly taught to all in the form of pamphlets and in sermons openly in every Catholic Church worldwide.Authentic healing is both right and true. CCC #2356 is both.Peace,Maria

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By: Judy Jones http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2009/11/29/in-abuse-by-irish-priests-a-little-mental-reservation/comment-page-1/#comment-22449 Sun, 29 Nov 2009 19:26:30 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/?p=10047#comment-22449 I guess that when I was a child and attending catholic grade school..and had to learn the #7 commandment.. “Thou shalt not lie”, someone completely screwed up!… they forgot to tell me that it was ok to have ‘‘mental reservation’’????OR, could it be that a different #7 commandment was taught in the seminaries???Judy Jones, SNAP “Survivors Network of those Abused by Priests”snapsteubenville@gmail.com

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By: SISTER MAUREEN PAUL TURLISH http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2009/11/29/in-abuse-by-irish-priests-a-little-mental-reservation/comment-page-1/#comment-22434 Sun, 29 Nov 2009 16:29:17 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/?p=10047#comment-22434 Regarding the statement by the former Archbishop of Dublin, Cardinal Desmond Connell:Bishop Connell in correct when he says that apologies, “lose their value through repetition,” because his actions like the actions of so many bishops here in the United States, are crimes and it is just appalling that such members of the hierarchy are not being prosecuted as conspirators and facilitators in these perfidious crimes against children, these crimes against humanity.Hopefully, the Holy See and its bishops along with the superiors of those religious communities of men and women involved will be brought to answer for such crimes against children before the U.N. because these are violations of the United Nations Convention on the Rights of the Child to which the Holy See is a signatory.Since Bishop Connell, again like so many of his brethren in the United States and around the world, seeks to minimize his responsibility in enabling such heinous crimes while attempting to convince the People of God of what he has done.I would ask him what he intends to do investigate, dismantle and rebuild the the eclessiastical governmental structures that contributed so much to such a horrific abuse of episcopal power and authority?Apologies, whether from bishops, cardinals or Pope Benedict XVI are no longer enough. The bishops have made them and the pope has made them but little has been done beyond that and what has been done was done because of the force of public opinion and not from any altruism on the part of those in high places.My heritage is Irish on my mother’s side. My great-grandparents are from Donegal and Mayo and I am as ashamed of the actions of the hierarchy there as I am of the hierarchy here in the United States.Sister Maureen Paul TurlishVictims’ AdvocateNew Castle, Delaware, USAmaureenpaulturlish@yahoo.com

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