Comments on: Thoughts on Obama’s Nobel Theology Prize speech http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2009/12/10/thoughts-on-obamas-nobel-theology-prize-speech/ Religion, faith and ethics Sat, 23 Apr 2016 23:25:07 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.5 By: kathk http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2009/12/10/thoughts-on-obamas-nobel-theology-prize-speech/comment-page-1/#comment-23036 Tue, 15 Dec 2009 19:59:45 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/?p=10412#comment-23036 A dear friend of mine is both a Christian and a soldier. His name is Jeff Courter, and he gets the connection that Obama laid out in his speech. Jeff actually lives what Obama speaks.

He was prompted by the tragic events of 9/11 to leave behind the comforts of civilian life in Chicago to volunteer with the Army – training Afghans to defend themselves against terrorists on their own turf.

He wrote about the emotional, spiritual, mental and cultural challenges he faced in a book I recommend, “AFGHAN JOURNAL: A Soldier’s Year in Afghanistan.” (http://www.afghanistan-journal.com).

Now that he’s home, he continues to write on a blog called LifeLoveandTruth.com. Here’s a link to his latest post – which was written prior to Obama’s Oslo speech, but it speaks directly to the core of our President’s perspective: “If Peace is the Answer, Is War Ever a Question?” http://bit.ly/5UyZhY.

KK

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By: UrghAllah http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2009/12/10/thoughts-on-obamas-nobel-theology-prize-speech/comment-page-1/#comment-22970 Sat, 12 Dec 2009 06:34:55 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/?p=10412#comment-22970 World needs to stand with Israel who are surrounded by barbarians. I sincerely hope that Russia, China, India, Great Britain, France, Germany, Japan stand unconditionally with Israel. United States of America is blackmailing Israel by not giving it unilateral and unconditional support. How can any one be so callous for human beings by calling them as Jews who have been exploited and tormented for thousands of years by Islamic and Christian barbarians? I hope Barrack Obama doesn’t turn out to be another Hitler, Mussolini, Saddam, Ghenghis, Timur the Lame, who in name of God/ Allah love carried out religious genocide of humans by terming them as Pagans/ Infidels/ Kaffir. Barbarians of the world always had improper history, nationality, dubious record in terms of faith and lineage.

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By: Anon86 http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2009/12/10/thoughts-on-obamas-nobel-theology-prize-speech/comment-page-1/#comment-22965 Sat, 12 Dec 2009 03:08:00 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/?p=10412#comment-22965 In that case, margaretdc, perhaps you would like to answer?

If you think that Israel’s response was disproportionate, then what would the correct response be?

-Surrender
-Let missiles hit Israel without any response.
-Send in some police to get murdered/kidnapped.
-Complain to the UN.

Or was the response correct, and the level of innocent death the issue? If so, how many innocent deaths would you believe to be an appropriate amount before Israel’s actions become ‘unacceptable’ to you?

Being a well educated individual, you no doubt have a rational response to the above questions.

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By: peacelover http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2009/12/10/thoughts-on-obamas-nobel-theology-prize-speech/comment-page-1/#comment-22954 Fri, 11 Dec 2009 17:42:03 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/?p=10412#comment-22954 I do agree with some points of everybody. To me to tackle the problem with a problem is not the solution. Anyhow, these comments are for Obama’s peace prize, which at the moment unjustified with reference to his achievements and even peace negotiations. On the reality table his biggest achievemnt until now is that he is the president of the USA. His ambitions may be good but it is his actions which will determine his credibility in the near future or otherwise we may have to see him receiving Nobel prize in chemistry for telling us that CO2 is toxic. I think we should give him some more time to see, but at the same time if we have to see another war on iran or north korea or pakistan or so on then we must have to create another Nobel Peace Prize or may be prizes for him as he can justify war with two words, “when necessary”. Anyway, hope for the best, let the peace prevail, stop the wars!

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By: Wraithbane01 http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2009/12/10/thoughts-on-obamas-nobel-theology-prize-speech/comment-page-1/#comment-22952 Fri, 11 Dec 2009 16:27:41 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/?p=10412#comment-22952 I can’t believe I registered to this site to answer in a blog comment section. I’m at a loss as to why the vast majority of people (broad generalization of course) who respond on the internet to anything involving an American leader feel they have the right to also draw the “war” in the middle east to the front. There are hundreds of other conflicts in the world that are not being criticized.

More importantly, have you taken arms in any of these conflicts? Are you jewish or muslim? do you contribute funding to either of these sides? If not, please keep your comments to yourself, this war unlikely effects you directly, and you are wasting our time talking about one war that will likely never end. Neither side is willing to compromise, neither side shows mercy, neither side is fair at the table, and there will not be any kind of concessions in our lifetime. Lets redirect attention back to the president. Good speech in my opinion, and decent commentary by the blogger. thanks.

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By: margaretdc http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2009/12/10/thoughts-on-obamas-nobel-theology-prize-speech/comment-page-1/#comment-22950 Fri, 11 Dec 2009 10:21:12 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/?p=10412#comment-22950 I have never responded to comments. After reading defcon86, I must respond. I am at a loss why so many feel the need to support unconditionally the Isreali government action. I watched with horror the Gaza attacks last year. Those people were trapped with no where to go while the Isreali army bombed and killed innocent people living in gaza. I understand proportionality and collateral damage very well. Quit being an apologist for a corrupt government that over half of the Israelis don’t support. I wish we had the same discourse on this issue that they have in Israel.

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By: UrghAllah http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2009/12/10/thoughts-on-obamas-nobel-theology-prize-speech/comment-page-1/#comment-22949 Fri, 11 Dec 2009 09:29:42 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/?p=10412#comment-22949 This nobel peace prize is the biggest joke of history. Anyways with or without prize, America is the biggest deadly joke of world. This joke kills innocents in name of love of democracy, a line world must toe in order to live peacefully, peace the american way… Aegis of winchester rifle for american decided to apologize in 2009. Shame

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By: defcon86 http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2009/12/10/thoughts-on-obamas-nobel-theology-prize-speech/comment-page-1/#comment-22948 Fri, 11 Dec 2009 06:37:19 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/?p=10412#comment-22948 In that case, Pedro, what would you say proportional force would be?

-Israel to surrender?
-Israel to do nothing and let hundreds of missiles hit Israeli cities without response?
-Israel to send a small squad of soldiers or police into Gaza to be killed or held to ransom?
-Israel to complain to the UN and wait for the UN to do something?

Look up the concept of collateral damage and proportionality. You do not seem to understand what those terms mean.

It isn’t a case of “Oh, they killed fifty of our people, so we should kill fifty of them and stop”.

It is a matter of “We continue the war until the threat from the enemy ends, or they agree to cease hostile action”.

For that matter, do you know that:
-White phosphorus is not illegal.
-Cluster bombs are not illegal.
-Military presence in civilian areas makes those areas legitimate targets.
-It is legal to strike at military targets, even if civilians end up dying in the strike as well.

If you are not aware of those matters, perhaps you should research into things before speaking to them?

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By: Pedro07 http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2009/12/10/thoughts-on-obamas-nobel-theology-prize-speech/comment-page-1/#comment-22943 Thu, 10 Dec 2009 20:06:29 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/?p=10412#comment-22943 This Peace Nobel Price is a bad joke and when it comes to peace in the Middle East Obama is just a laugh.
If he thinks “ that war is justified only if it is a last resort or self-defense, if force is proportional to the threat and civilians are spared if possible. “ how could he not criticise Israel’s latest military offensive which left more than 1200 Palestinians dead 400 of which children under 16?
This Israeli offensive was clearly disproportionate since Palestinian rocket attacks throughout the years (2004-2008) only killed 16 Israelis (see Israeli Ministry of Foreign Affairs web site – http://www.mfa.gov.il/MFA/Terrorism-+Obs tacle+to+Peace/Palestinian+terror+since+ 2000/Victims+of+Palestinian+Violence+and +Terrorism+sinc.htm) . Nonetheless, when asked what he thought about the Israeli attack Obama answered Israel had a right to defend itself against rocket attacks and forgot the major issue of proportional force or respect for civilians.
I suppose Obama is just “facing the world as it is” and therefore he realises he is unable to oppose the American Jewish lobby and criticise Israel. Laughable?

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