Comments on: In Catholic debate on celibacy, “ask about” is different from “question” http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2010/03/12/in-catholic-debate-on-celibacy-ask-about-is-different-from-question/ Religion, faith and ethics Sat, 23 Apr 2016 23:25:07 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.5 By: Wallaby http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2010/03/12/in-catholic-debate-on-celibacy-ask-about-is-different-from-question/comment-page-1/#comment-24002 Wed, 31 Mar 2010 06:35:40 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/?p=12343#comment-24002 Do the Catholic Church claim to believe and teach the Holy Bible?

The 1st book of Timothy Chapter 4 verses 1-3 describe what would happen within the Church “in later times”. Verses 2 & 3 says “Speaking lies in hypocricy having their conscience seared with a branding iron, forbidding to marry….”

How can the Church justify the celibacy rule when it causes so much damage and heartache?

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By: netdoc44 http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2010/03/12/in-catholic-debate-on-celibacy-ask-about-is-different-from-question/comment-page-1/#comment-23844 Mon, 15 Mar 2010 05:17:54 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/?p=12343#comment-23844 Let’s get this whole stinking mess settled quickly, to-wit: Sister Maureen Paul Turlish for Pope! Pope Maureen would be to RCC corruption and criminality as was Carrie Nation to the evil demon rum! Keep after them Sister. A few dozen thousand more like you and the rat’s nest may get cleaned out. As David might have said, “The bigger they are, the harder they fall.”

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By: SMPTURLISH http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2010/03/12/in-catholic-debate-on-celibacy-ask-about-is-different-from-question/comment-page-1/#comment-23834 Sun, 14 Mar 2010 03:08:28 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/?p=12343#comment-23834 Celibacy and chastity are two different animals which seems to have been confused in “Celibacy debate re-emerges amid church abuse scandal.”

Yes, Hamburg Auxiliary Bishop Hans-Jochen Jaschke is quoted as saying celibacy was not the reason for sexual abuse but “the celibate lifestyle can attract people who have an abnormal sexuality and cannot integrate sexuality into their lives. That’s when a dangerous situation can arise.”

Because of a lack of education others get into dangerous situations as well. For the most of the last fifty years or so there has been no solid education in either sexuality or celibacy given to seminarians. Even today there are very few places where either subjects are treated with a similar amount of serious study as any other academic subjuct.

Of course this in itself is not surprising in an institution in which every thought, word, etc., that had to do with sex was considered mortally sinful!

There needs to be honesty in the church. The sexual abuse problems in the church are not limited to children. That needs to be put right up front.

How many bishops, worldwide, have been removed from ministry and have now retired somewhere in prayer and penance? Actually quite a few.

Historically, sexual crimes by priests in the RCC where it concerns children, those victims are mostly male. The experts say that that is more because of availability than anything else. Reading through reports like the 2005 Philadelphia Grand Jury Report shows this to be true. Rape, in addition to being a crime of power rather than sex, is also a crime of opportunity, of who is available.

Neither homosexuality nor heterosexuality causes sexual abuse.

Should all heterosexual priests be removed because of the information learned from the three of so confidential report on the sexual abuse of religious women, nuns, in the 1990s by priests in mission areas countries as well as countries around the world? After those reports were made public, they were roundly discredited by the hierarchy and were never heard about again.

And as far as celibacy as a pre-requisite for priesthood, it was not always so and it is not so for rites other than the Roman rite. Let him who can take it, take it.

Sister Maureen Paul Turlish
Victims’ Advocate
New Castle, Delaware, USA
maureenpaulturlish@yahoo.com

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By: Ludolphus2 http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2010/03/12/in-catholic-debate-on-celibacy-ask-about-is-different-from-question/comment-page-1/#comment-23822 Sat, 13 Mar 2010 10:09:29 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/?p=12343#comment-23822 Professor Klaus Beier is a specialist in the area of sexual medicine but uses the word paedophile to describe abuse of pubesecent and post-pubescent boys by Catholic clergy.

I thought in strict terms paedophilia was abuse of the PRE-pubescent.

Is Prof. Beyer afraid to use the term predatory homosexual? for that better describes what has happened in monasteries and parish houses. Homosexual priests interfering and buggering 13/14/15 year old boys is not paedophilia.

The seminaries need to exclude homosexuals.

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