Comments on: Pope-victims gap is tip of iceberg of incomprehension in Catholic Church http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2010/03/21/pope-victims-gap-is-tip-of-iceberg-of-incomprehension-in-catholic-church/ Religion, faith and ethics Sat, 23 Apr 2016 23:25:07 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.5 By: divakarssathya http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2010/03/21/pope-victims-gap-is-tip-of-iceberg-of-incomprehension-in-catholic-church/comment-page-1/#comment-23926 Mon, 22 Mar 2010 17:03:30 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/?p=12535#comment-23926 India is crisscrossed by schools and other institutions run by Jesuits.

Yet thanks to India’s dodgy editorial class very few in India know that the Vatican has paid out close to a hundred million dollars to compensate for victims of child sexual abuse by albeit “a small minority” of priests.

The Indian media has barely reported that story.

Was the media’s heinous silence an act of concern for Indian children or a hideously wrongheaded act of leaving well enough alone ?

Abuse of power often happens in plain sight, since to the “busy,busy, busy” lay person, the powerful appear glamorous and formidable and their prey appear to be in many ways, asking for it.

Since the past two decades, the Government of India, the Government of my own state, Andhra Pradesh, the Andhra Pradesh High Court , the Chief Information Commissioner and State Information Commissioner have combined to impress on me that what works in India is what I have called the “patronage paradigm” ? the paradigm of shoddiness, irresponsibility, cronyism and corruption” – and that ideas of the rule of law and democratic processes are merely spectacles to lull the gullible.

I have been denied the recognition that were commended to me by one former Chief Minister of my state, one former minister of home affairs, one speaker of the Lok Sabha, several prominent ministers of the central cabinet, eminent intellectuals and freedom fighters.

I have been unable to earn a decent living.

The office of the Governor of Andhra Pradesh incited my neighbours to cut off my water supply.

The Indian editorial class published government spin and ostentatiously made me a “non person”.

The information commissions in the state and at the centre denied me my right to information on spurious, brazenly illegal grounds and punished me for daring to object.

The high court denied me my right to competent counsel and punished me for complaining.

Even as we speak, Dr Manmohan Singh”s office, “Daredevil” Pratibha Patil’s Rashtrapati Bhavan, Chief Information Commissioner Wajahat Habibullah, State Information Commissioner CD Arha are all locked in a most perverse and ignominious conspiracy of silence to deny me justice.

Even as the Prime Minister’s Office maintains a guilty silence in my case, it appears to have jumped through hoops to heap honour on a businessman alleged to be a serial swindler.

What about “civil society” in India ?

Since close to a year now, I have written to the Commonwealth Human Rights Initiative, Campaign for Judicial Accountability And Reform, Forum For Judicial Accountability, MKSS (Aruna Roy)

and Anna Hazare regarding this cascading delinquency of constitutional bodies in India.

There has not been one constructive response.

They all appear to be in helpless denial of the awful truth that an innocent citizen has been hounded and humiliated since two decades, not for any bad behaviour or wrongdoing, but for resisting the dilution of the values of the Indian constitution and standing up for the correct administration of the Right To Information Act 2005.

Please visit and participate at:

Andhra Pradesh High Court’s Pernicious Rebellion Against The Law .05/29/09

RTI Act 2005 Abuse In Andhra Pradesh- SIC Cheats! Chief Secretary Lies!05/07/09

Prejudiced CIC Laps Up PMO Lies 05/05/09

Compelling Criminality. Divakar S Natarajan and Varun Gandhi Cannot Both Be Wrong ! 01/28/09

And India’s editorial class will not report the story!

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News and views from Divakar S Natarajan’s, “no excuses”, ultra peaceful, non partisan, individual sathyagraha against corruption and for the idea of the rule of law in India.

Now in its 18th year.

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By: vickysimister http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2010/03/21/pope-victims-gap-is-tip-of-iceberg-of-incomprehension-in-catholic-church/comment-page-1/#comment-23925 Mon, 22 Mar 2010 16:36:32 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/?p=12535#comment-23925 Words are meaningless if one’s actions contradict them. The Pope should be calling for the resignation of those bishops who turned a blind eye – they are guilty by their inactivity.

http://vickysimister.com/2010/03/22/pope -apologises-for-inconvenience/

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By: drosaupan http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2010/03/21/pope-victims-gap-is-tip-of-iceberg-of-incomprehension-in-catholic-church/comment-page-1/#comment-23923 Mon, 22 Mar 2010 14:13:04 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/?p=12535#comment-23923 Just an advise to all my brothers and sisters who were victimized by these sex abuse of clergies. Do not punish the Church of Christ. Punish the Criminal clergy instead. How? FILE A CASE! Go the the PROPER FORUM which is the COURT who has jurisdiction over the case. HE WHO SEEKS JUSTICE MUST DO JUSTICE. God Bless

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By: SNAPnetwork http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2010/03/21/pope-victims-gap-is-tip-of-iceberg-of-incomprehension-in-catholic-church/comment-page-1/#comment-23922 Mon, 22 Mar 2010 13:17:58 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/?p=12535#comment-23922 There’s really one question that matters more than any other: Has anything the Pope done in the last few weeks made one child safer today? Sadly, the answer is no.

David Clohessy, National Director, SNAP-Survivors Network of those Abused by Priests, 7234 Arsenal Street, St. Louis MO 63143 (314 566 9790), SNAPnetwork.org, SNAPclohessy@aol.

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By: EEEvans http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2010/03/21/pope-victims-gap-is-tip-of-iceberg-of-incomprehension-in-catholic-church/comment-page-1/#comment-23921 Mon, 22 Mar 2010 12:32:06 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/?p=12535#comment-23921 Sadly, it seems that the actual culture of a church has to change (any church, not solely the Catholic Church) before real healing can begin. Experts who have studied the topic of sexual abuse, including the ones at New York’s John Jay College of Criminal Justice, are now arguing that while abusers clearly have psychological problems, only a small number of them are true pedophiles.

What made their behavior possible? An institutional culture that was secretive, hierchical, avoidant.

Obviously that’s not solely true of the Catholic Church. But as with any institution, the degree to which those in charge can break down some of this culture of avoidance and make apologies in ways that are concrete is probably going to affect how the rank and file think. Seems to me that in this case the stakes are pretty high.

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By: JohnBS1 http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2010/03/21/pope-victims-gap-is-tip-of-iceberg-of-incomprehension-in-catholic-church/comment-page-1/#comment-23917 Mon, 22 Mar 2010 03:51:51 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/?p=12535#comment-23917 May have answered some things for some catholics – certainly went nowhere towards answering anything for victims. No request for catholics to support victims (most are ostracized, vilified and discriminated against by ‘their fellow parishioners’ as they appear unable to direct their anger at the clergy so they instead direct this towards the victims. This is the most harmful area of this whole situation and is a major cause of suicide in victims – none of these things has been raised yet.

Nothing will be changed until bishops, nuns and priests who presided over these abuses as well catholics who blindly believed the SPIN put out by catholic press and supporters who took and still take their anger out on victims simply for disclosing the faults and crimes of the church and its clergy. Nothing more will change until catholics are able to differentiate clearly between church and state matters – this is staggeringly simply for many victims and non catholics – this is immensely difficult and appears to only engender outrage towards the messenger by those who have been deceived by their religion. It is simple enough to try yourself out in this regard http://www.irishfireandice.com/separatio n

There will not be any genuine change until the discussion gets through these and a number of other issues yet to come.

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