Comments on: Uncertain leadership in Vatican as abuse crisis rages http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2010/04/18/uncertain-leadership-in-vatican-as-abuse-crisis-rages/ Religion, faith and ethics Sat, 23 Apr 2016 23:25:07 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.5 By: telyawot2 http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2010/04/18/uncertain-leadership-in-vatican-as-abuse-crisis-rages/comment-page-1/#comment-24130 Tue, 20 Apr 2010 17:12:46 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/?p=12976#comment-24130 these events have nothing to do with a man’s natural sexual orientation. in our world there are more girls than boys getting groped by old pervs. the only reason we see boy-centered allegations here is because there aren’t girls to grope in the church.

the church has invented plenty of colorful language to snuff out and control the population, such as the above drivel written by that old crank leviticus.

funny that now, after centuries of fabricating fear and nonsense about human sexuality, their hateful tactics are blowing back in their faces under their own roof, where they have been hypocritically indulging themselves in the very pleasures that they admonish the people to deny.

it is time disband the irrelevant catholic church, turn the vatican into a campus for the care of the old, poor, and sick, to better suit their historic claims of compassion etc. and rewrite the ‘bible’ yet again to reflect contemporary paths to enlightenment for all people everywhere.

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By: An0nym0us http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2010/04/18/uncertain-leadership-in-vatican-as-abuse-crisis-rages/comment-page-1/#comment-24128 Tue, 20 Apr 2010 02:40:31 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/?p=12976#comment-24128 Did anyone ask a question why this issue of child abuse is specific to RC Church? Not Protestant, Anglican, Orthodox Church, not in mosques or synagogues. The answer is simple: celibacy of RC priesthood. A man of normal sexual preferences would think many times over before going for RC priest career, so inevitably the seminaries are full of, speaking in politically correct terms, persons of unorthodox sexual orientation. Or, in lay terms, pederasts. As soon as the Church let the priests get married, the orientation of each and every priest will not be a secret anymore. There will be no risk of leaving boys in care of a married priest. As for the priests of alternative orientation, they need to be reminded the Holy Scriptures, as follows:
Leviticus 20:13 “If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.”

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By: gwilensky http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2010/04/18/uncertain-leadership-in-vatican-as-abuse-crisis-rages/comment-page-1/#comment-24125 Mon, 19 Apr 2010 06:47:41 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/?p=12976#comment-24125 It’s odd that anyone should be surprised at the current sexual child abuse scandal engulfing the Catholic Church. It should not be surprising because for anyone who knows the history of the Church, rampant sexual abuses of all kinds were quite commonplace for centuries. During the Middle Ages the Church had absolute power over people, and the people had no power at all to do anything, nor anyone to complain to. One can only imagine the lurid events in convents, monasteries, abbeys and other houses of God. That clergy went on doing this until the present time is only natural.

The trouble for the Church is, these days the environment outside the Church is different. A priest can no longer do as he pleases with the boys in church because these days the child can speak out without fear of being flogged by his parents, or bringing shame to the family, or excommunication, or even a visit to an Inquisition dungeon. So, the only difference between now and the 14th century is that now there’s an open press, a somewhat liberal society, and an inexorable distancing from religion and thus from the despotic yoke of the Church.

But no one should expect the Pope to make the right thing now, namely defrock these pederast priests and hand them over to the civil authorities for prosecution, because that is not what popes do. No, popes do not have the interests of Justice and the victims in mind, they have the interests of the Holy Church in mind, and that means thinking in the long term. And when it comes to thinking ahead and thinking of what will be best for the Church in the long term, the answer is always demurrals, delays, silence, and stonewalling for decades—even generations—until there’s no one alive who lived through the events in question, and the events are forgotten by all except some historians. By the time they narrate the events in history books, the people are so detached that the stories sound almost quaint. It’s like stories of the massacres perpetrated by Catholics in the name of religion during the Crusades or even the Religious Wars. Or the tortures and persecutions of the Inquisition. Who is revolted by these things these days? We would if they had just happened. But we are not because they happened so long ago that we tend to view them in the same way as the barbarous actions of any people in antiquity. This is the strategy of silent popes. It has worked wonderfully for the Church in the past. It’s up to right minded people today to prevent it from working for them again.

Gabriel Wilensky
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