Comments on: New York mosque opponents react, mayor defends religious freedom http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2010/08/05/new-york-mosque-opponents-react-mayor-defends-religious-freedom/ Religion, faith and ethics Sat, 23 Apr 2016 23:25:07 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.5 By: al37 http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2010/08/05/new-york-mosque-opponents-react-mayor-defends-religious-freedom/comment-page-1/#comment-24986 Wed, 11 Aug 2010 11:35:29 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/?p=14497#comment-24986 @ im4peace
although there are many improvements to be made in certain muslim countries in regards to human rights. Blaming a religion followed by over a billion people is certainly not a solution.
I doubt that so many people would stay repressed by a religion preaching hate and war. Saying that Islam preaches this message is clearly a misunderstanding of the fundamentals of the religion. Especially a religion which stems from Judaism and Christianity and holds essentially the same core values.

Naturally, interpretations differ. as they do in all religions. Unfortunately this sometimes give way to fanaticism and extremism. So who is to blame? the religion or the people?
History shows that whatever the religion, people always manage to kill each other for it.

Now as to the various points you describe in message many are erroneous and very biased. maybe through reading the Qu’ran or asking people directly concerned by these arguments you give (ie actual muslims) you’d have a broader and maybe less unbiased view of Islam.

But here are the counter arguments to your message, I doubt it’ll change your point of view, but being hateful is never a solution, whether your religious or not.

the Qu’ran is mainly about love and peace. Although there are harsher parts (as there are in the Bible, I urge you to read passages Deuteronomy 13 : 6 – 9 as an example) The Qu’ran also says that respect and love must be given to others (especially those of the Judaic or Christian persuasion). There are apparent words for love and peace. and it is certainly not a coincidence that when Muslims greet others, they say “As-salamu Aleykum” meaning Peace be upon you.
Polygamy is tolerated and meant for extreme circumstances but it is certainly not the norm.let’s see what the Qu’ran says :
“If you fear lest you may not be perfectly equitable in treating more than one wife, then you shall be content with one.” (4:3)
and then
“You cannot be equitable in a polygamous relationship, no matter how hard you try.” (4:129)
this more or less says that polygamy is not preferable.

Now as for the stoning of converts from Islam to other religions. nobody can vouch for that in their right minds. But it happens in some countries unfortunately and it can only be eradicated through education.

as for the definition of civilised, wellit may come as a surprise but many muslims aren’t towel heads riding camels in the desert. Islam had a golden age in which it was a worldwide center of culture, education and art. This was actually during the end of the dark ages in Europe funnily enough. I leave it up to you to look up muslim scholars, philosophers, mathematicians, doctors that have all contributed to human knowledge in many ways.

As for the Cordoba house near ground zero, as far as I know, there is freedom of religion in the USA. one is allowed with the proper permits to build a mosque wherever one pleases. as says the 1st ammendment : “Congress shall make NO law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.”

maybe you should see this mosque as an opportunity for two worlds to unite and share in peace. A show of good faith. Showing that America, land of freedom FOR ALL knows that 9/11 is not an act of Islam but of hate.
There is hope and if everybody can get behind the idea of cooperation and maybe learning from each other, wounds will heal.

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By: im4peace http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2010/08/05/new-york-mosque-opponents-react-mayor-defends-religious-freedom/comment-page-1/#comment-24960 Fri, 06 Aug 2010 23:35:31 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/?p=14497#comment-24960 An open letter to Muslims:
Resistance to a proposed mosque in NYC is not a “vocal minority” or a bunch of bigots.
Before 9/11 few Americans understood Islam, assuming it was another “peaceful” religion. After all, we’re predominately Christians and much of our core values are based on love, peace and brotherhood.
After 9/11 we opened our eyes and learned more about our “enemy” and their values. We are no longer so naive. We are shocked that your Qur’an, unlike our Bible, not only contains no apparent words equivalent to “love” or “peace” but urges the death of all non-believers (not to mention polygamy and elimination of women’s rights). Not only that a “believer” who wants to convert to Christianity does so under a threat of death. That’s a “religion”??? I think not. That’s an ideology bred of hatred and violence…and also fear. You fear Christianity. You fear freedom. But most of all you fear democracy and freedom of thought. The wounds of 9/11 are still open and bleeding….and will be for many years! America did not strike out at Islam or Muslims. Until 9/11 we accepted you into our society, peacefully. And maybe even with a little ignorance. But not now. Those “bigots” and “vocal minority” persons you refer to are Americans who have read your Qur’an and are no longer ignorant or uninformed…and our numbers increase each day. You want to build a mosque in NYC? Fine, but keep it miles away from our open wounds. And while you’re living in America live by our laws, not your depraved and evil Shariah.
Let’s analyze the term “bigot”. Bigot is defined as ‘a prejudiced person who is intolerant of any opinions differing from his own’. I may be wrong but isn’t that an accurate description of Islam? You expect us to open our arms to Muslims after 9/11, after only nine years of healing, and you dare to call us bigots. How about Islam which continues to preach hatred against all other religions, especially Judaism and Christianity, since approximately 625BC? That’s almost 1400 years! Who’s a bigot? Muslims are literally living in the dark ages. I say to you, deny Shariah and re-write the Qur’an and then you can begin to call yourselves civilized.

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