Revel- you discredit your own statement here when you lump all of “Europe” together, when in fact it was a mere handful of European nations that were largely responsible for what you’re talking about. The British in particular, and the Dutch, French and Belgians to a far lesser extent, did indeed colonise large swathes of the Muslim world. But the vast majority of Europe did not. The Scandinavians, Poles, Czechs, Greeks, Germans, Finns, Hungarians among others had absolutely nothing to do with colonisation of Muslim countries. Quite the opposite, as many of them were victims of corrupt Muslim colonisation thru e.g. the Ottoman Turks, who thrice failed to conquer Vienna and other vast regions.

In fact, the bulk of Europe largely avoided colonisation alltogether and weren’t involved in the dishonour of the slave trade. This is one reason that the Scandinavians and Germans have the most successful economies today- they have a culture that’s never relied on slave labour and thus has become adapted to doing its own manual labour and doing it well, hence their manufacturing prowess.

Ironically, this historical fact also seems to have a correspondence in the levels of Muslim settlement in the European countries that were colonisers. It’s very low in Scandinavia and Germany, which has only about 2 million Muslims (the vast majority of immigrants to Germany are east Europeans, Russians and ethnic Germans from North America, *not* Turks as often believed), somewhat higher in France and the Netherlands (not nearly as high as often claimed), but growing significantly only in Britain, which was indeed the major coloniser in the Muslim world. About 2.5-3 million Muslims reside in the UK, but that number is indeed growing quite quickly due to heavy immigration under both Labour and Tories to provide cheap Labour for businesses, and unlike Continent European countries, Britain has sharia law and courts in many districts as well as Islamic customs predominating there. See Tower Hamlets or Manchester for examples.

So the United Kingdom and England in particular are indeed taking on an increasingly Islamic character, along with a corrupt government whichever major party is leading it with a slavish devotion to the wishes of rich campaign donors (one reason why I and so many other Britons have left). But that’s not true of the rest of Europe. Don’t lump them together so.

A study done in Denmark [or other northern European country] followed 1000 Turkish immigrants for a 20 year period. And found that in 20 years their numbers had increased to 20,000. Not because they were having more children – but that each of those children – married a person from the old country, as their parents also did, in what was termed – a fetching marriage – and with the men they found that it was common to marry one person from the old country – divorce and marry again – up to three times.

Likely based on this research or others like it – Denmark banned the fetching marriage practise – back in 2001 or 2002.

[The Danes found that their costs to do with immigration were going up year on year. The measure is a layered restriction on the fetching marriage practise - as a means to bring a new citizen into the country. And the Danes are reporting good results. And somewhat more integrated Muslim communities.]

Very clearly with these numbers on a national scale – they were looking at displacement.

And I sure that those in favour of maintaining the family reunification ‘right’ – never envisioned that it would be used in this way.

In that same study – over the 20 year period it found that there were only 4 marriages with those from the native /or other segments of the population.

These things don’t just happen – there is enormous pressure placed on these young people – in the US, for example, we see a rise in honour crimes, [sometimes attempted murder or murder] most often connected to do with the girl’s refusal to go along with an arranged marriage with someone overseas.

The family’s honour is tied up in the girl’s agreeing [read: being obedient], but the clan member, is given a US passport. It doesn’t look voluntary!

[See the Iraqi man who ran down his daughter with his car - dispute was over an arranged marriage - that the girl was simply not interested in.]

‘She was too western’ should be read as – ‘girl doesn’t want to be forcibly married’!

These and other statistics would likely be overlooked, because they don’t support the Islamophobia argument.

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Both Egypt and Turkey’s populations have doubled in the last 40-50 years. This is Islam’s growth. But also may mean we see more riots for bread. A single man can proudly boast 20 children, with a number of wives, but someone has to feed them.

I find it ironic that we have Sikhs commenters getting riled up for fear of being portrayed as “Muslims” when their very religion is owed to Muslim Sufi saint…and just recently was known as the official face and religion of terror in India throughout the 80s and 90s. Some chutzpah.

Lastly I for one would like to see the Eurabia myth come to fruition though unfortunately it won’t. It’ll be nice to show the dastardly Europeans who colonized, plundered, looted, and murdered countless souls and treasures of 3rd world many of them Muslims, what happens when a shoe is on the other foot. In this case the consequences of their action, when the colonized subjects are brought back for labor and peacefully co-exist with their colonizer. Though Pew says it won’t happen