Comments on: Islamic bloc drops 12-year U.N. drive to ban defamation of religion http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2011/03/24/islamic-bloc-drops-12-year-u-n-drive-to-ban-defamation-of-religion/ Religion, faith and ethics Sat, 23 Apr 2016 23:25:07 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.5 By: 777xxx777 http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2011/03/24/islamic-bloc-drops-12-year-u-n-drive-to-ban-defamation-of-religion/comment-page-1/#comment-30142 Mon, 28 Mar 2011 03:45:36 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/?p=20429#comment-30142 @Ganesh
“I’m talking about the fact that Middle Eastern countries would be nowhere without their oil wealth”

Yes I got your point and that’s why I stated in my previous comment that Race to green energy is on.

“I can’t comment on the conspiracy theory that the West is waging these wars in the Middle East because of oil”

Do you think there could be some reason other than oil?? Saudi protests are suppressed with US blessings and Libya protests are encouraged by same US. How do you think this puzzle can be solved.

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By: prasadgc http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2011/03/24/islamic-bloc-drops-12-year-u-n-drive-to-ban-defamation-of-religion/comment-page-1/#comment-30136 Sun, 27 Mar 2011 05:43:51 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/?p=20429#comment-30136 777xxx777 said:

> Yess so you also realize its the Great Oil Wars.

I can’t comment on the conspiracy theory that the West is waging these wars in the Middle East because of oil. I presume you’re referring to that. Your guess is as good as mine.

I’m talking about the fact that Middle Eastern countries would be nowhere without their oil wealth, and whatever influence they (and the other Muslim countries that their oil wealth indirectly supports) have will reduce dramatically when the oil runs out or is largely replaced by other sources of energy.

At that point, all the grandiose talk of Islamic supremacy and eternal jihad will naturally peter out and be replaced by a more realistic and moderate stance of ‘live and let live’.

Regards,
Ganesh Prasad

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By: 777xxx777 http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2011/03/24/islamic-bloc-drops-12-year-u-n-drive-to-ban-defamation-of-religion/comment-page-1/#comment-30125 Sat, 26 Mar 2011 10:29:06 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/?p=20429#comment-30125 @Ganesh

“The cynic in me says Islam worldwide will become more moderate when Middle Eastern oil runs out in a few decades. The fuel for jihad is petroleum, literally and figuratively”

Yess so you also realize its the Great Oil Wars. And the day any country invents any alternate source of sustainable and green energy that day will be doom for middle east and Islam’s supposed supremacy in general. Race to green energy is ON. Lets see who wins.

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By: 777xxx777 http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2011/03/24/islamic-bloc-drops-12-year-u-n-drive-to-ban-defamation-of-religion/comment-page-1/#comment-30124 Sat, 26 Mar 2011 10:23:31 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/?p=20429#comment-30124 @Ganesh

Probably you are right or probably not. One hand we have on this blog a name who claims to be German muslim and yet even after tremendous exposure to other religions, even then he is constantly trying to say that Islam (in face of pashtoons) will come hard at (supposedly Hindu) India all because India is threatening Islam (now expect some more stupidity from him). On other hand we have another name who is an Indian muslim with a doctorate in medicine science and is a very open minded person. I have had extensive discussions with both these names and had exactly opposite experiences. And then there is third name who is a Pakistani muslim and is an engineer by profession and almost blind supporter of PA but still an open minded person who once even agreed that India will obviously not and should not give kashmir to pakistan on a platter(despite that sometimes he gets emotional fits of kashmir banega pakistan). I even liked his idea that we should put Kashmir in back burner for some time and first try to resolve other differences between us and build trust between neighbours. So, I do not know whether to agree with you or not. But one thing I am very clear with is that muslims (or for that fact any person) cannot get respect just because he is following a certain religion. Religion can never (and should never) earn respect for anyone. If muslims (of course NOT all, but still a very large %) want respect then first thing they have to do is to come out of their babylonian mind sets and HAVE to start giving respect to others as persons without looking at their faith. I remember that dialogue from Jodha Akbar movie…”Sikka girne par awaaz hoti hai uthhate vaqt nahin”….how true it is in real life as well. Stop calling people of other faiths as Kaafirs and infidels..these are extremely disrespecting words.

But I am happy with the fact that muslims of “Gen Y” of India is not so much in these mental caves and have started to integrate very well (in eyes of cavemen mullahs Indian muslims have ‘assimilated’) with society at large and are doing very well in life. Hope this trend of peace continues. And lets pray (to whatever Gods one follows) that muslims worldwide learn this reality as quick as possible.

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By: prasadgc http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2011/03/24/islamic-bloc-drops-12-year-u-n-drive-to-ban-defamation-of-religion/comment-page-1/#comment-30120 Fri, 25 Mar 2011 23:31:51 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/?p=20429#comment-30120 777xxx777 said:

> Islam (it seems) is very weak and brittle and therefore fears run high among all muslims that Islam is under constant threat.

I don’t think it applies to all Muslims. Those who have become used to diversity and do not see the existence of non-Muslims as a threat are probably at peace with themselves and others. (Of course, the “war on terror” has made new enemies even among these people, but for different reasons.)

I think it’s to do with expectations. If you believe that the desirable end-state is the whole wold following your religion, then the fact that this has not happened and is being resisted would be interpreted as a sign that your religion is being threatened by enemies.

If you’re cool with the idea that people of all religions will continue to exist into the indefinite future and no religion will dominate the world, then this “threat” simply disappears.

I think many Muslims, especially those in predominantly Muslim countries where they have no exposure to people of other faiths, are conditioned to think in terms of ultimate conquest. They are probably the most frustrated that this world of 7 billion people has only 1.3 billion Muslims and not 7 billion.

It will take many years of exposure to reality before acceptance finally takes place. There really is no other option. Something has to give, and I think it’ll have to be the dream of worldwide Islamic conquest. A future generation of Muslims will probably look back with curiosity at the idea of jihad and ghazis.

Regards,
Ganesh Prasad

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By: prasadgc http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2011/03/24/islamic-bloc-drops-12-year-u-n-drive-to-ban-defamation-of-religion/comment-page-1/#comment-30119 Fri, 25 Mar 2011 23:31:14 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/?p=20429#comment-30119 On the dropping of the UN resolution seeking to protect religions (sic) from defamation, I think we all have Pakistan’s blasphemy law to thank for showing the world what such a resolution will do to religious minorities worldwide.

“However, diplomats from Islamic countries have warned the council that they could return to campaigning for an international law against religious defamation if Western countries are not seen as acting to protect believers.”

That’s a fine example of chutzpah. Who needs to be protecting whom is now abundantly clear, yet the onus remains on Western countries to protect the *sentiments* of Muslims. Muslim countries can fail to protect the *lives* of non-Muslims, and that doesn’t matter.

The cynic in me says Islam worldwide will become more moderate when Middle Eastern oil runs out in a few decades. The fuel for jihad is petroleum, literally and figuratively.

Regards,
Ganesh Prasad

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