Comments on: Criticised Israeli ambassador backtracks on rare praise of Pope Pius XII http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2011/06/26/criticised-israeli-ambassador-backtracks-on-rare-praise-of-pope-pius-xii/ Religion, faith and ethics Sat, 23 Apr 2016 23:25:07 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.5 By: oferdesade http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2011/06/26/criticised-israeli-ambassador-backtracks-on-rare-praise-of-pope-pius-xii/comment-page-1/#comment-31146 Mon, 27 Jun 2011 08:25:24 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/?p=21824#comment-31146 ambassador lewy did not praise the pope!
he objectivel­y said that jews were saved by the church and by clergy, and there is some chance that pius 12 knew about this. all this is a moot point. it cant be proven one way or the other – possibly not even after the vatican releases whatever records it sees fit to release.
Lewy has time and again also said that pius was silent on the holocaust. he remained silent even though american diplomats pleaded with him to speak up. (the response was that the nazis may make it worse for the jews. worse! get it. how much worse i dunno)
for this silence his being beatified may raise questions, but none that can be addressed by the State of Israel, for which beatificat­ion is an internal vatican matter. the catholic church can define as a saint whomever they wish, and certainly worse people than pius12 have achieved this questionab­le status. if the church wishes to demean the term, so be it. latin is their language and they can use it as they wish.
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what IS on record and IS a problem is Pius’ blatant antisemiti­sm and his almost fascist objection to the state of israel. and lewy – as the editor of the JTA well knows – has gone on record on this account as well (drawing much more heated reactions from the vatican than what he’s received from the jews on this latest comment).
he referred to the jewish state as a communist virus (now there are those calling it a theocracy.­.. sigh); the first time he mentioned the term “concentra­tion camp” was in reference to palestinia­ns (justified or not, one has to admit that concentrat­ion camps DID exist before the zionist state used them to round up and gas all those millions of palestinia­ns to death). one can go on and on. the long and the short of it is that he was a product of that world in which the jews were to be eternally damned for killing christ, never to achieve statehood, to be the dregs of humanity for their religion..­. shame this kind of attitude still exists, but what can you do

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By: oferdesade http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2011/06/26/criticised-israeli-ambassador-backtracks-on-rare-praise-of-pope-pius-xii/comment-page-1/#comment-31141 Sun, 26 Jun 2011 19:29:13 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/?p=21824#comment-31141 but he didnt praise him

he objectively said that jews were saved by the church and by clergy, and there is some chance that pius knew about it. he also said that pius was silent on the holocaust.
all this is a moot point. it cant be proven one way or the other – possibly not even after the vatican releases the records (after possibly burning what shouldnt be there).
what is on record is his blatant antisemitism and his almost fascist objection to the state of israel.
and lewy has gone on record on this account as well (drawing much more heated reactions from the vatican than what he’s received from the jews on this latest comment).

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