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	<title>Comments on: Housing chart of the day</title>
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	<description>A slice of lime in the soda</description>
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		<title>By: thorsteinveblen</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2009/06/12/housing-chart-of-the-day/comment-page-1/#comment-2723</link>
		<dc:creator>thorsteinveblen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 03:55:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you draw a straight line to approximate the (slowly rising) mean, aren&#039;t we now pretty close to it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you draw a straight line to approximate the (slowly rising) mean, aren&#8217;t we now pretty close to it?</p>
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		<title>By: Pierre Henri</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2009/06/12/housing-chart-of-the-day/comment-page-1/#comment-2711</link>
		<dc:creator>Pierre Henri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Jun 2009 07:07:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting graph. I tend to think alongside Ken&#039;s comment: somehow, people need to realise that growth comes from investment in productive assets. Therefore, intuitively, I would see the long term figure below the 100% mark.
I find the comment on dual income households a very good one, but would have drawn a totally opposite conclusion: surely, if both husband and wife of a same household (sharing the same house(s)) work, this should increase the GDP relatively to the households real estate assets, except if one assumes that most of these dual income families have started investing in a secondary residence (which seems unlikely for the average household).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting graph. I tend to think alongside Ken&#8217;s comment: somehow, people need to realise that growth comes from investment in productive assets. Therefore, intuitively, I would see the long term figure below the 100% mark.<br />
I find the comment on dual income households a very good one, but would have drawn a totally opposite conclusion: surely, if both husband and wife of a same household (sharing the same house(s)) work, this should increase the GDP relatively to the households real estate assets, except if one assumes that most of these dual income families have started investing in a secondary residence (which seems unlikely for the average household).</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Montgomery</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2009/06/12/housing-chart-of-the-day/comment-page-1/#comment-2675</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob Montgomery</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 21:05:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To echo, somewhat, the other comments, my eyeball best-fit of a line to that data isn&#039;t a horizontal line (i.e., a mean), but a slight upwards trend.  Just estimating, it looks to me like the trend line should put us, in 2009, at about 120%, which isn&#039;t too far below where we are now.

Of course, the steepness of our current trajectory could mean that we will drastically overshoot (undershoot?) on the way down, so...

So don&#039;t call me an optimist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To echo, somewhat, the other comments, my eyeball best-fit of a line to that data isn&#8217;t a horizontal line (i.e., a mean), but a slight upwards trend.  Just estimating, it looks to me like the trend line should put us, in 2009, at about 120%, which isn&#8217;t too far below where we are now.</p>
<p>Of course, the steepness of our current trajectory could mean that we will drastically overshoot (undershoot?) on the way down, so&#8230;</p>
<p>So don&#8217;t call me an optimist.</p>
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		<title>By: SeanDC</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2009/06/12/housing-chart-of-the-day/comment-page-1/#comment-2669</link>
		<dc:creator>SeanDC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 19:41:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In much of America, houses were much smaller during the first half of the chart than they are today.  The rise of dual-income families and the secular decline in mortgage interest rates allowed families to invest a greater amount in their homes (for good or for ill).  Those two trends seem to be generally hanging in there. 

Ergo, the value of housing stock as a percentage of the economy can sustainably remain at a much higher level than was the case in the 1950s-1970s. 

That\&#039;s not to say that 160% was the correct level (that level reflected overinvestment in housing and inflated prices) or that we will trough at the current level, but it also doesn\&#039;t mean we necessarily have to revert to 90% or whatever the mean value of this chart is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In much of America, houses were much smaller during the first half of the chart than they are today.  The rise of dual-income families and the secular decline in mortgage interest rates allowed families to invest a greater amount in their homes (for good or for ill).  Those two trends seem to be generally hanging in there. </p>
<p>Ergo, the value of housing stock as a percentage of the economy can sustainably remain at a much higher level than was the case in the 1950s-1970s. </p>
<p>That\&#8217;s not to say that 160% was the correct level (that level reflected overinvestment in housing and inflated prices) or that we will trough at the current level, but it also doesn\&#8217;t mean we necessarily have to revert to 90% or whatever the mean value of this chart is.</p>
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		<title>By: Ken</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jun 2009 19:38:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Felix,  not to oversimplify, but doesnt the correction you indicate here return the real estate markets to the long-term trend?  Wealth and sustained economic activity are generated through investment productive assets, not flipping real estate.  As for the devastation you cite, perhaps its best we realize up front that we were scratching a prank lottery ticket and move on.  Good blog, by the way.  I love it; read it every day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Felix,  not to oversimplify, but doesnt the correction you indicate here return the real estate markets to the long-term trend?  Wealth and sustained economic activity are generated through investment productive assets, not flipping real estate.  As for the devastation you cite, perhaps its best we realize up front that we were scratching a prank lottery ticket and move on.  Good blog, by the way.  I love it; read it every day.</p>
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