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	<title>Comments on: Bair wants a bank-size tax</title>
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	<description>A slice of lime in the soda</description>
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		<title>By: Sandrew</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2009/07/16/bair-wants-a-bank-size-tax/comment-page-1/#comment-4292</link>
		<dc:creator>Sandrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 20:51:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why is this limited to large bank holding companies?  Won&#039;t GS and MS simply revoke their BHC status if/when such a rule is enacted?  Sure they&#039;ll lose access to the discount window, but if they ever get into any real trouble, they&#039;ll no doubt be granted funding on favorable terms by virtue of their being systemically important.

Suggested edit: Replace the rules-based (and gameable) &quot;large bank holding company&quot; with &quot;systemically important entity&quot; (and leave that undefined in the statute).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why is this limited to large bank holding companies?  Won&#8217;t GS and MS simply revoke their BHC status if/when such a rule is enacted?  Sure they&#8217;ll lose access to the discount window, but if they ever get into any real trouble, they&#8217;ll no doubt be granted funding on favorable terms by virtue of their being systemically important.</p>
<p>Suggested edit: Replace the rules-based (and gameable) &#8220;large bank holding company&#8221; with &#8220;systemically important entity&#8221; (and leave that undefined in the statute).</p>
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		<title>By: GT</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2009/07/16/bair-wants-a-bank-size-tax/comment-page-1/#comment-4278</link>
		<dc:creator>GT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 19:55:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A simpler solution would be to limit leverage based on size.  If most banks are currently 10:1 then the ratio should decline as banks get larger.  Above a certain asset size (i.e. $300 billion) the ratio would start declining so that by the time you had JPM at $2 trillion of assets it would need $500 billion of equity (4:1).  No way this ever happens, due to regulatory capture, but it would be a simple solution that would be favored by all but the largest institutions.  It obviously wouldn&#039;t be painless, but given the performance of the largest firms by asset value, (FNM, FRE, AIG, C, MER, BAC all failed or needed substantial gov&#039;t help), we need to have more capital behind the largest firms.  Before interstate banking reform, asset size was limited and problems were more regional.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A simpler solution would be to limit leverage based on size.  If most banks are currently 10:1 then the ratio should decline as banks get larger.  Above a certain asset size (i.e. $300 billion) the ratio would start declining so that by the time you had JPM at $2 trillion of assets it would need $500 billion of equity (4:1).  No way this ever happens, due to regulatory capture, but it would be a simple solution that would be favored by all but the largest institutions.  It obviously wouldn&#8217;t be painless, but given the performance of the largest firms by asset value, (FNM, FRE, AIG, C, MER, BAC all failed or needed substantial gov&#8217;t help), we need to have more capital behind the largest firms.  Before interstate banking reform, asset size was limited and problems were more regional.</p>
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		<title>By: KenG</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2009/07/16/bair-wants-a-bank-size-tax/comment-page-1/#comment-4269</link>
		<dc:creator>KenG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 18:42:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is it more important to limit size than risk?  It&#039;s not the size of the bank that&#039;s the problem, it&#039;s the amount of risk they take on, relative to their assets.  A bunch of smaller banks with too many stupid loans is not going to be much better than one large one with a proportionately smaller number of risky loans.  Shouldn&#039;t the taxes be based on loan ratios, rather than total loan values?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is it more important to limit size than risk?  It&#8217;s not the size of the bank that&#8217;s the problem, it&#8217;s the amount of risk they take on, relative to their assets.  A bunch of smaller banks with too many stupid loans is not going to be much better than one large one with a proportionately smaller number of risky loans.  Shouldn&#8217;t the taxes be based on loan ratios, rather than total loan values?</p>
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		<title>By: Gaute</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2009/07/16/bair-wants-a-bank-size-tax/comment-page-1/#comment-4267</link>
		<dc:creator>Gaute</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 18:35:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Complexity is the main obstacle for good rules and enforceable rules. With a complex reality you usually end up with complex rules. That in turn puts the regulators in a situation where they are supposed to enforce complexity squared. Add a spoonful of low pay and bureaucracy, and stir until it all collapse.

The tough part is finding a way to measure complexity that cannot be gamed. Remember this is the very same people who gamed Basel, gamed the tax code, fooled the FED and went away with US taxpayers money. 

The complexity of the individual products and trades could be measured by the time one person, starting with the complete set of documents of the transaction/product only, needed to complete a reverse engineering and write a report on the economic realities of that transaction/product. If the report was off the mark by a margin, the product would get a maximum score for complexity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Complexity is the main obstacle for good rules and enforceable rules. With a complex reality you usually end up with complex rules. That in turn puts the regulators in a situation where they are supposed to enforce complexity squared. Add a spoonful of low pay and bureaucracy, and stir until it all collapse.</p>
<p>The tough part is finding a way to measure complexity that cannot be gamed. Remember this is the very same people who gamed Basel, gamed the tax code, fooled the FED and went away with US taxpayers money. </p>
<p>The complexity of the individual products and trades could be measured by the time one person, starting with the complete set of documents of the transaction/product only, needed to complete a reverse engineering and write a report on the economic realities of that transaction/product. If the report was off the mark by a margin, the product would get a maximum score for complexity.</p>
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