Comments on: Paulson vs Fuld, cont. http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2009/08/31/paulson-vs-fuld-cont/ A slice of lime in the soda Sun, 26 Oct 2014 19:05:02 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.5 By: the Shah http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2009/08/31/paulson-vs-fuld-cont/comment-page-1/#comment-6172 Tue, 01 Sep 2009 18:38:50 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2009/08/31/paulson-vs-fuld-cont/#comment-6172 I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: democracy doesn’t work when the majority aren’t heard, only the loudest are. Politicians are weak-willed and arrogant and think of themselves before the majority. I believe that Paulson did his best, and I also don’t doubt for a second that Washington stooges blocked his every path because they didn’t/couldn’t understand what he was trying to say, or in fact didn’t/couldn’t care less. Change can be enacted very easily, and I think a third party introduced into American politics that has the cajones to stand up FOR the majority (not TO the majority) is a necessary first start.

Also wanted to say, b/c I want to say it as much as possible to Americans, that America now has an enormous structural deficit, i.e. little nips ad tucks won’t cut it (people love to say pork spending, which amount to maybe $80-100b, not $1.5t). Face it now – expect higher taxes, regardless of Reps or Dems, and expect your tax dollar to not go nearly as far for a long time. It’s either that or default in 10-15 years.

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By: Don the libertarian Democrat http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2009/08/31/paulson-vs-fuld-cont/comment-page-1/#comment-6169 Tue, 01 Sep 2009 18:14:00 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2009/08/31/paulson-vs-fuld-cont/#comment-6169 From Vox and Mark Thoma:

http://economistsview.typepad.com/econom istsview/2009/08/triple-timeinconsistent -policy.html

“A financial crisis is not the best time for reform or building credibility, especially if those actions go against the private sector’s expectations. Policymakers should focus their attention on putting out the fires and minimize the short-run social costs.”

Here’s a comment I posted on Reason Oct.9th:

“The market’s reaction after the Lehman refusal showed that the markets and investors were expecting a bailout. In other words, there was an implicit government guarantee to intervene in a crisis such as this. In this instance, to try and go against the expectations of the market would be very hard and complicated. On the other hand, going forward, it will be clear that this implicit guarantee, which will now be explicit, was partly responsible for this crisis. I believe that this will come to be widely understood. Contrary to what you are saying, the moral hazards of this arrangement are more widely understood and accepted, and will finally have to be addressed.

I know that you’re not going to like hearing this, but the uncertainty was caused by the government not bailing out Lehman. The reaction of the credit markets showed that people were expecting a bailout, and when they didn’t get one, they started to panic. believing that they might be on their own. I’m not defending this belief or the bailout here, but simply calling attention to the real conditions under which the market and investors were operating”

The Calvo post gets it right.

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By: capitalistroader http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2009/08/31/paulson-vs-fuld-cont/comment-page-1/#comment-6156 Tue, 01 Sep 2009 16:31:58 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2009/08/31/paulson-vs-fuld-cont/#comment-6156 “the decision not to bail out Lehman went quite quickly from being seen as bold and decisive to being seen as utterly catastrophic, and the story about Treasury’s hands being tied only really started to emerge after the latter view became conventional wisdom.” Sad but true. As this version has become conventional wisdom the growing consensus has also become that the problem was liquidity, not solvency. The failure of Lehman should have underlined the dangers of taking on excessive risk and brought about a renewed emphasis on strong balance sheets.

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By: BJ Feng http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2009/08/31/paulson-vs-fuld-cont/comment-page-1/#comment-6135 Tue, 01 Sep 2009 04:48:00 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2009/08/31/paulson-vs-fuld-cont/#comment-6135 I continue to believe that Paulson did the right thing in letting Lehman fail on for both moral and economic reasons. Fuld was told repeatedly to sell the firm and he had a willing buyer in the Japanese, but he wanted to hold out for independence or a better price. Fuld believed that his company was too big to fail and he pushed that belief to the max, he was going to take maximum advantage of “too big to fail”.

Unlike AIG, Lehman’s failure didn’t have the potential to destroy the entire financial system. A lot of other firms used AIG to hedge their portfolios, AIG failing would have put those firms in question. Lehman’s failure did not cause the crisis, it only signaled how bad the situation was to everyone else. Had Lehman been saved, we still would have had a crisis, bad loans and high leverage were what caused the crisis.

There is no reason why the taxpayer should bail out firms if it does not have to. That is if Lehman could fail without destroying the financial system, then it should be allowed to fail. I believe that there was probably room for only one big failure that the market could absorb, and Lehman was it.

How quickly people forget the circumstances and the sentiment during the Lehman failure. Congress had just rejected TARP, Paulson was a whole week early but Congress wasted that time debating. There was absolutely no political will to bail out both Lehman and AIG. The AIG bailout is still controversial and not liked! Paulson did what he had to do and I believe he made all the right decisions regarding AIG and Lehman. Even in retrospect.

I find it amazing that some of those who criticize the bailout of AIG and the “Wall Street Fat Cats” also blame Paulson for not saving Lehman! Seems like he can’t win either way, but I guess that comes with the job. I’m glad we had a Secretary who was able to put the interests of the country ahead of his stature or image.

I’m just angry at all the criticism leveled at a person who I think did a good job versus the people who put the country in danger, those being the politicians who voted against TARP and Shelia Bair who constantly advocated bad policy ideas and who also refused to go along with Bernanke and Paulson until forced to.

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By: Don the libertarian Democrat http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2009/08/31/paulson-vs-fuld-cont/comment-page-1/#comment-6119 Mon, 31 Aug 2009 20:43:40 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2009/08/31/paulson-vs-fuld-cont/#comment-6119 When I say that I wanted Lehman to be saved, I mean that the Treasury Dept. could have sweetened the deal for the B of A. Also, that the Fed could have advanced funds to Lehman. My evidence would be that the Fed advanced funds to AIG, and the Treasury Dept. worked frantically to get the B of A to take over Merrill, only a few days later.

Now, I realize that Bernanke says that Lehman had no collateral, and Paulson says the Lehman couldn’t be saved, implying that what’s being mooted is the Treasury Dept. doing something other than terrorizing the B of A into a merger. But, really, given their performance after the disaster struck, neither man seems a stickler to the rules when he’s got a fire under his rear. I just wish that they hadn’t needed to be terrorized into action.

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