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	<title>Comments on: Google&#8217;s evil policy on shutting down blogs</title>
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		<title>By: awebmaster</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2010/01/03/googles-evil-policy-on-shutting-down-blogs/comment-page-1/#comment-17369</link>
		<dc:creator>awebmaster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Aug 2010 13:50:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just to give the opposing opinion to this. I&#039;m a webmaster, and I pay for my site to be hosted by a professional company. Every day dozens of Google Blogspot sites steal my text word for word and puts them on their blogs - google then serves these pages up in the search results!

 I report them for spam and google usually deletes their blog. I understand that there are some google hosted blogs which are decent. But there&#039;s a lot more which are complete trash and harmful to people like me who rely on their websites to make a living - not just express their opinions.

From what I&#039;ve seen Google does a pretty good job at restoring blogs which do generate their own original content and deserve to exist. Case in point John Hempton&#039;s blog.

If you&#039;ve got something to say which is important don&#039;t rely on a free hosing service. It cost&#039;s almost nothing to set up your own site! 

I think the real evil here is the fact Google facilitates this nameless, free dumping ground for people to steal other people&#039;s hard work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just to give the opposing opinion to this. I&#8217;m a webmaster, and I pay for my site to be hosted by a professional company. Every day dozens of Google Blogspot sites steal my text word for word and puts them on their blogs &#8211; google then serves these pages up in the search results!</p>
<p> I report them for spam and google usually deletes their blog. I understand that there are some google hosted blogs which are decent. But there&#8217;s a lot more which are complete trash and harmful to people like me who rely on their websites to make a living &#8211; not just express their opinions.</p>
<p>From what I&#8217;ve seen Google does a pretty good job at restoring blogs which do generate their own original content and deserve to exist. Case in point John Hempton&#8217;s blog.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;ve got something to say which is important don&#8217;t rely on a free hosing service. It cost&#8217;s almost nothing to set up your own site! </p>
<p>I think the real evil here is the fact Google facilitates this nameless, free dumping ground for people to steal other people&#8217;s hard work.</p>
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		<title>By: DanHess</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2010/01/03/googles-evil-policy-on-shutting-down-blogs/comment-page-1/#comment-11116</link>
		<dc:creator>DanHess</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 21:09:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Google showed great leadership in re China today!  Rock on, Google!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Google showed great leadership in re China today!  Rock on, Google!</p>
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		<title>By: 3.14</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2010/01/03/googles-evil-policy-on-shutting-down-blogs/comment-page-1/#comment-10948</link>
		<dc:creator>3.14</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jan 2010 23:24:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt; We had over 15K articles posted over a two year period
&gt; trashed and our site marginaizled with no direct links
&gt; in google search, in less than 10 hours after we printed &gt; a satire cartoon on Obama

How can you do it? On average, you posted ~20 articles a day for two years. Are you sure you are not spammer?

I don&#039;t think Google cares whether your blogs are pro- or anti- Obama.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt; We had over 15K articles posted over a two year period<br />
&gt; trashed and our site marginaizled with no direct links<br />
&gt; in google search, in less than 10 hours after we printed &gt; a satire cartoon on Obama</p>
<p>How can you do it? On average, you posted ~20 articles a day for two years. Are you sure you are not spammer?</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think Google cares whether your blogs are pro- or anti- Obama.</p>
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		<title>By: VincentWright</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2010/01/03/googles-evil-policy-on-shutting-down-blogs/comment-page-1/#comment-10788</link>
		<dc:creator>VincentWright</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jan 2010 07:03:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My friend, Jack Yan, and I have been writing about this on such places as:

1. GetSatisfaction.com: http://getsatisfaction.com/google/topics/dont_be_evil_google_gimme_my_blog_back_come_out_and_defend_yourself_you_big_giant_bully

2. Facebook.com: http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=238075071665 

and

3. even on Blogspot.com: http://wrighthandblogger.blogspot.com/2009/11/dont-be-evil-google-gimme-my-blog-back.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My friend, Jack Yan, and I have been writing about this on such places as:</p>
<p>1. GetSatisfaction.com: <a href='http://getsatisfaction.com/google/topics/dont_be_evil_google_gimme_my_blog_back_come_out_and_defend_yourself_you_big_giant_bully'>http://getsatisfaction.com/google/topics &nbsp;/dont_be_evil_google_gimme_my_blog_back _come_out_and_defend_yourself_you_big_gi ant_bully</a></p>
<p>2. Facebook.com: <a href='http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=238075071665'>http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id =238075071665</a> </p>
<p>and</p>
<p>3. even on Blogspot.com: <a href='http://wrighthandblogger.blogspot.com/2009/11/dont-be-evil-google-gimme-my-blog-back.html'>http://wrighthandblogger.blogspot.com/20 09/11/dont-be-evil-google-gimme-my-blog- back.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: No1Uno</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2010/01/03/googles-evil-policy-on-shutting-down-blogs/comment-page-1/#comment-10786</link>
		<dc:creator>No1Uno</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jan 2010 05:57:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you think for a nano-second that Google doesn&#039;t profile any and every blog on the net that is indexed by them, I have a little test for you!  

Just post any article starting with Obama (add any negative or mocking by-line) and find out how quickly your site will be banned from Google.  They have filters of all kinds that sus out any negative phrases that don&#039;t match their political agenda on the far left.  

We had over 15K articles posted over a two year period trashed and our site marginaizled with no direct links in google search, in less than 10 hours after we printed a satire cartoon on Obama.

Google ARE the brown shirts of today and the future!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you think for a nano-second that Google doesn&#8217;t profile any and every blog on the net that is indexed by them, I have a little test for you!  </p>
<p>Just post any article starting with Obama (add any negative or mocking by-line) and find out how quickly your site will be banned from Google.  They have filters of all kinds that sus out any negative phrases that don&#8217;t match their political agenda on the far left.  </p>
<p>We had over 15K articles posted over a two year period trashed and our site marginaizled with no direct links in google search, in less than 10 hours after we printed a satire cartoon on Obama.</p>
<p>Google ARE the brown shirts of today and the future!</p>
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		<title>By: ChrisMaresca</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2010/01/03/googles-evil-policy-on-shutting-down-blogs/comment-page-1/#comment-10777</link>
		<dc:creator>ChrisMaresca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jan 2010 02:02:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Simple solution here, folks.  Don&#039;t use Google provided services.  There are hundreds, if not thousands, of places to blog.   The worst that can happen is you might have to pay $5/month for the privilege, but then you will have full control.

Or just use wordpress.com - free, not evil (or at least less likely to be evil...).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Simple solution here, folks.  Don&#8217;t use Google provided services.  There are hundreds, if not thousands, of places to blog.   The worst that can happen is you might have to pay $5/month for the privilege, but then you will have full control.</p>
<p>Or just use wordpress.com &#8211; free, not evil (or at least less likely to be evil&#8230;).</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2010/01/03/googles-evil-policy-on-shutting-down-blogs/comment-page-1/#comment-10761</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2010 21:55:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyone besides me think this alibi is much too convenient?  Every decision Google makes can be explained away as an &quot;internal bug.&quot;  And none of this tech is discussable because it would give advantage to the evil ones.  It is well known in many communities that Blogger shuts down blogs because of outside pressure. People like Yves just get a taste of it and ultimately immune because of the privilege of knowing the right people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone besides me think this alibi is much too convenient?  Every decision Google makes can be explained away as an &#8220;internal bug.&#8221;  And none of this tech is discussable because it would give advantage to the evil ones.  It is well known in many communities that Blogger shuts down blogs because of outside pressure. People like Yves just get a taste of it and ultimately immune because of the privilege of knowing the right people.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2010 18:16:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joe Biden&#039;s son is his brother?!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe Biden&#8217;s son is his brother?!</p>
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		<title>By: rklau</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2010/01/03/googles-evil-policy-on-shutting-down-blogs/comment-page-1/#comment-10740</link>
		<dc:creator>rklau</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2010 16:28:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@MiltonRecht - I wrote up a detailed post about the Girl in Short Shorts situation last July:

http://tins.rklau.com/2009/07/blogger-and-adult-content.html

Shorter version: Becky violated our content policy, and her blog was labeled as having adult content (which it did).

I regret the tone of the quote in the help forms (&quot;please, knock off...&quot;) but please note that was not from a Google employee but one of a number of volunteers who try to help address issues when they come up. I spoke with that person about how they communicate with our users, it&#039;s certainly not how I&#039;d like to see users treated.

@Uncle_Billy - our policy, support and legal teams routinely are called upon to manually review blogs for a variety of reasons. If they are found to be in violation of our Content Policy (http://www.blogger.com/content.g) then they will be shut down.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@MiltonRecht &#8211; I wrote up a detailed post about the Girl in Short Shorts situation last July:</p>
<p><a href='http://tins.rklau.com/2009/07/blogger-and-adult-content.html'>http://tins.rklau.com/2009/07/blogger-an d-adult-content.html</a></p>
<p>Shorter version: Becky violated our content policy, and her blog was labeled as having adult content (which it did).</p>
<p>I regret the tone of the quote in the help forms (&#8220;please, knock off&#8230;&#8221;) but please note that was not from a Google employee but one of a number of volunteers who try to help address issues when they come up. I spoke with that person about how they communicate with our users, it&#8217;s certainly not how I&#8217;d like to see users treated.</p>
<p>@Uncle_Billy &#8211; our policy, support and legal teams routinely are called upon to manually review blogs for a variety of reasons. If they are found to be in violation of our Content Policy (<a href='http://www.blogger.com/content.g)'>http://www.blogger.com/content.g)</a> then they will be shut down.</p>
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		<title>By: mattmc</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2010/01/03/googles-evil-policy-on-shutting-down-blogs/comment-page-1/#comment-10736</link>
		<dc:creator>mattmc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2010 14:57:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In addition to a high link content, one thing that might trigger the spam detection algorithm is large sections of text being quoted. If the blog was quoted in lots of other higher page rank places, the algorithm is more like to see those places as the source of the info.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In addition to a high link content, one thing that might trigger the spam detection algorithm is large sections of text being quoted. If the blog was quoted in lots of other higher page rank places, the algorithm is more like to see those places as the source of the info.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2010/01/03/googles-evil-policy-on-shutting-down-blogs/comment-page-1/#comment-10735</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2010 14:14:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Look at mine: http://control.blog.sina.com.cn/myblog/htmlsource/blog_notopen.php?uid=1675138943&amp;version=7&amp;x

It was shut down by sina.com.cn last night, without any notification! And it&#039;s very common in China. Many people have the same experience across the country.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Look at mine: <a href='http://control.blog.sina.com.cn/myblog/htmlsource/blog_notopen.php?uid=1675138943&#038;version=7&#038;x'>http://control.blog.sina.com.cn/myblog/h tmlsource/blog_notopen.php?uid=167513894 3&#038;version=7&#038;x</a></p>
<p>It was shut down by sina.com.cn last night, without any notification! And it&#8217;s very common in China. Many people have the same experience across the country.</p>
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		<title>By: rjs0</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2010/01/03/googles-evil-policy-on-shutting-down-blogs/comment-page-1/#comment-10729</link>
		<dc:creator>rjs0</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2010 09:20:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ive been flagged as spam as well, as i link to several hundred articles a week...it is the amount of links that trips the robot; after a dozen captcha entries, i regained full access...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ive been flagged as spam as well, as i link to several hundred articles a week&#8230;it is the amount of links that trips the robot; after a dozen captcha entries, i regained full access&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: MiltonRecht</title>
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		<dc:creator>MiltonRecht</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2010 09:00:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There was a very well written, thought provoking, very popular, politically libertarian blog, &quot;Just a girl in shorts&quot; by Becky Chandler that Google kept shutting down because people with opposing political beliefs claimed the content was objectionable. Finally and sadly, Becky gave up and stopped blogging.

The funniest part was Google&#039;s response to the fact that there were so many complaints to Google about blocking the blog, especially on Google&#039;s blogger support pages since there was no other obvious way to indicate readers&#039; unhappiness with Google&#039;s action. Of course, none of the support responses dealt with the main blocking issue.

Google&#039;s support responses were;

&quot;I [support] am asking that you take action with your readers.  There are now a dozen threads taking up space in BHF [blogger help forum], with everybody whining about this one blog...&quot;

And another:

&quot;But please, knock off the multi-posting. Your posts are starting to annoy the folks who help here.&quot;

Above from one thread of posts about her blog among many: http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/blogger/thread?tid=164b7aa43cfacad4&amp;hl=en#all</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There was a very well written, thought provoking, very popular, politically libertarian blog, &#8220;Just a girl in shorts&#8221; by Becky Chandler that Google kept shutting down because people with opposing political beliefs claimed the content was objectionable. Finally and sadly, Becky gave up and stopped blogging.</p>
<p>The funniest part was Google&#8217;s response to the fact that there were so many complaints to Google about blocking the blog, especially on Google&#8217;s blogger support pages since there was no other obvious way to indicate readers&#8217; unhappiness with Google&#8217;s action. Of course, none of the support responses dealt with the main blocking issue.</p>
<p>Google&#8217;s support responses were;</p>
<p>&#8220;I [support] am asking that you take action with your readers.  There are now a dozen threads taking up space in BHF [blogger help forum], with everybody whining about this one blog&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>And another:</p>
<p>&#8220;But please, knock off the multi-posting. Your posts are starting to annoy the folks who help here.&#8221;</p>
<p>Above from one thread of posts about her blog among many: <a href='http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/blogger/thread?tid=164b7aa43cfacad4&#038;hl=en#all'>http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/bl ogger/thread?tid=164b7aa43cfacad4&#038;hl=en# all</a></p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2010 08:09:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Google took down my PrestoPundit blog almost immediately after I broke the story on The socialist economics of Barack Obama, Sr., the Harvard trained economist, and Barack Obama&#039;s father.

Google effectively killed the blog and my highly linked story on Obama&#039;s father.

No human ever responded to my pleas to put my blog back into existence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Google took down my PrestoPundit blog almost immediately after I broke the story on The socialist economics of Barack Obama, Sr., the Harvard trained economist, and Barack Obama&#8217;s father.</p>
<p>Google effectively killed the blog and my highly linked story on Obama&#8217;s father.</p>
<p>No human ever responded to my pleas to put my blog back into existence.</p>
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		<title>By: Uncle_Billy</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2010/01/03/googles-evil-policy-on-shutting-down-blogs/comment-page-1/#comment-10725</link>
		<dc:creator>Uncle_Billy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jan 2010 07:18:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rick, thanks, understood.  Should have asked the more pointed questions though: Does google *ever* manually disable a blog?  Has it ever?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rick, thanks, understood.  Should have asked the more pointed questions though: Does google *ever* manually disable a blog?  Has it ever?</p>
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