Comments on: Is the NYT meter really a navigation fee? http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2010/01/22/is-the-nyt-meter-really-a-navigation-fee/ A slice of lime in the soda Sun, 26 Oct 2014 19:05:02 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.5 By: Zdneal http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2010/01/22/is-the-nyt-meter-really-a-navigation-fee/comment-page-1/#comment-11481 Mon, 25 Jan 2010 17:41:50 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2010/01/22/is-the-nyt-meter-really-a-navigation-fee/#comment-11481 I think it’s not an option to deter those determined to steal. It’s an option for those who want to fund good journalism, but don’t want a subscription. Heck even a pseudo tip jar would be nice. I am willing to pay for good stuff.

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By: doctorrobert http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2010/01/22/is-the-nyt-meter-really-a-navigation-fee/comment-page-1/#comment-11419 Sat, 23 Jan 2010 01:06:14 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2010/01/22/is-the-nyt-meter-really-a-navigation-fee/#comment-11419 The Economist does this now,in that you cannot access the Table of Contents Page (really just a Navigation page) unless you are a subscriber.

My question for the NYT paywall is that will Kindle owners get free access? We subscribe to the paper already; it’s only fair to give Kindle or other Ebook subscribers access.

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By: very-simple http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2010/01/22/is-the-nyt-meter-really-a-navigation-fee/comment-page-1/#comment-11416 Fri, 22 Jan 2010 20:55:47 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2010/01/22/is-the-nyt-meter-really-a-navigation-fee/#comment-11416 The times already has a system in place for blog links, although it’s been deprioritized in recent years.

Back in the days when the times had a paywall around all content that was more than a few days old, they set up a special link that you could put in your browser toolbar. If you were at any article on the times website and wanted to link to it from your blog, you could click on this “blog” link and it would give you a separate, permanent adress that you could use as your link that wouldn’t be subject to the normal paywall rules. In other words, you could blog current articles and not have to worry that you were sending your own readers to an article stuck behind the wall. I used this constantly back in the day, but when the times went “all free”, I trashed it thinking it was unnecessary now.

Obviously, the paywall is going to be structured differently this time, but the “blog linking” coding is there, and probably only needs some minor tweaking to bring it up to date.

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By: dsucher http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2010/01/22/is-the-nyt-meter-really-a-navigation-fee/comment-page-1/#comment-11414 Fri, 22 Jan 2010 20:21:56 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2010/01/22/is-the-nyt-meter-really-a-navigation-fee/#comment-11414 There’s another aspect: how high is the hurdle.

The NYT may have a very low fee. Two dollars a month.
Or alternatively, the NYT may be ready for some sort of micropayments system which costs a few pennies or nickels an article,

The big unknown is the reading DEVICE. The NYT must (I think) be assuming that it will not just pay for a desk-top or a lap-top. The NYT is paying for perceived value and that might be on a iTablet I believe that for Apple the NYT will be the marquee “content provider” and puts its stamp of approval on the iTablet. It may well be that the big surprise is not (as if that is enough) the super-sized iTablet, but some sort of pre-paid clever payment system using the iTunes store.

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By: werty http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2010/01/22/is-the-nyt-meter-really-a-navigation-fee/comment-page-1/#comment-11413 Fri, 22 Jan 2010 19:45:29 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2010/01/22/is-the-nyt-meter-really-a-navigation-fee/#comment-11413 This is not atypical logic. When I was at Economist.com our then-head of web had a similar viewpoint: if you wanted to take the initiative to hack around a paywall, or scour search results to find a copy, then fine; the pay-for-play would be for convenience and simplification. Which is not dissimilar from the Salon “pay up and we’ll get these interstitials out of your way” membership option. (Of course, The Economist has long since moved away from this model, but that’s another comment.)

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By: tmonkey http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2010/01/22/is-the-nyt-meter-really-a-navigation-fee/comment-page-1/#comment-11412 Fri, 22 Jan 2010 18:49:11 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2010/01/22/is-the-nyt-meter-really-a-navigation-fee/#comment-11412 If a standard news article is 650 words, and a standard blog post is ~250 words, and a magazine feature is anywhere from 5000-10,000 words, you’d think they should charge by the number of words you’ve actually read versus by the “piece”.

But that would imply some sort of clever new technology, wouldn’t it?

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By: pongored http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2010/01/22/is-the-nyt-meter-really-a-navigation-fee/comment-page-1/#comment-11411 Fri, 22 Jan 2010 18:28:17 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2010/01/22/is-the-nyt-meter-really-a-navigation-fee/#comment-11411 you are absolutely right in thinking that this would target an older audience that is less web-savvy. people who, although they might read the times online–does so via the nytimes web portal. if the new york times is aiming to create a sustainable model for monetizing content however, this is terribly ineffective as that audience is rapidly shrinking due to both increased web savvyness across all strata of society and, naturally, death.

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By: AnonymousChef http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2010/01/22/is-the-nyt-meter-really-a-navigation-fee/comment-page-1/#comment-11409 Fri, 22 Jan 2010 17:17:21 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2010/01/22/is-the-nyt-meter-really-a-navigation-fee/#comment-11409 I would imagine that internal blogs would be exempted.

I would also imagine that aggregators wouldn’t get the free-link policy, if that’s technically feasible. Whether its done by explicitly banning some sites or by limiting how many articles an external blog can link to daily.

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