Comments on: Chart of the day: The USA’s lost decade http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2010/03/02/chart-of-the-day-the-usas-lost-decade/ A slice of lime in the soda Sun, 26 Oct 2014 19:05:02 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.5 By: drewbie http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2010/03/02/chart-of-the-day-the-usas-lost-decade/comment-page-1/#comment-12383 Wed, 03 Mar 2010 15:50:00 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/?p=2768#comment-12383 I was born in Indiana, Doctorjay. How am I an immigrant?

In the second chart, it shows an increase in personal income. In the third, it shows a decrease in non-farm payroll. Did farmers get a raise big enough to cover that spread, or are these charts using separte sets of data?

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By: doctorjay317 http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2010/03/02/chart-of-the-day-the-usas-lost-decade/comment-page-1/#comment-12375 Wed, 03 Mar 2010 07:09:23 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/?p=2768#comment-12375 Come on people, except for the Indians, everyone else is an immigrant. We are like the guy who hops on the bus and hope it drives off sooner before it gets too crowded.
Anyway, we are all human. “I” always know better.

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By: Eric_H http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2010/03/02/chart-of-the-day-the-usas-lost-decade/comment-page-1/#comment-12369 Wed, 03 Mar 2010 02:11:32 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/?p=2768#comment-12369 Felix,

Your noted typo is more than just a typo. The period covered by the 00s bar goes from a business-cycle peak to a business-cycle trough (we hope). If, instead, you compare 2007 with 1997 you get 12% growth (2006 vs. 1996 gives 14%). Both are large drops from prior decades, but not as dramatic as the graph, which certainly overstates the drop.

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By: bfoulkrod http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2010/03/02/chart-of-the-day-the-usas-lost-decade/comment-page-1/#comment-12364 Tue, 02 Mar 2010 22:58:43 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/?p=2768#comment-12364 No matter the issue or opinions, we live in a nation reputedly governed by rule of law. If you let illegal immigration occur, you set the precedent of allowing laws to be openly ignored. To end slavery, discrimination or any other major issue was not possible until laws were written to redefine the way in which these issues were dealt. If you are against stopping illegal immigration, you must first convince the majority of voters to your cause and force a change in the law. Using the courts to try to circumvent the law destroys the whole purpose for the courts in the first place, and on method alone I oppose any action taken as illegal and setting bad precedent. Any entering *any* nation or staying illegally are in violation of that nation’s laws. That or any nation is not obligated to change its policies to (after the fact) declare a de facto pardon for breaking the law. You would be, in effect, destroying the society these immigrants deserve to emigrate to, and turning my own nation into one that does not respect the rule of law.

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By: najdorf http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2010/03/02/chart-of-the-day-the-usas-lost-decade/comment-page-1/#comment-12360 Tue, 02 Mar 2010 21:57:14 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/?p=2768#comment-12360 One thing that gets elided a lot in the immigration debate is that if you think U.S. immigration law is too restrictive, the solution is to craft a fairer immigration law, not permit massive violations of immigration law.

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By: iflydaplanes http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2010/03/02/chart-of-the-day-the-usas-lost-decade/comment-page-1/#comment-12356 Tue, 02 Mar 2010 20:44:11 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/?p=2768#comment-12356 RED, the word illegal doesn’t make a difference? Then that is to say there is no difference between someone going into a bank, filling out a withdrawal slip, and withdrawing money from their account and someone going into a bank and robbing it. Both had intentions of obtaining money, but there should be no difference that one person withdrew money in accordance with the law and one did not?

So if I were to say I was anti-ILLEGAL-money withdrawing (aka robbery)then I would also be against people withdrawing money in general according to you.

Yes, I know I made up the term anti-illegal-money withdrawing, so you don’t have to point that out to me. I used it to make a comparison.

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By: Mega http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2010/03/02/chart-of-the-day-the-usas-lost-decade/comment-page-1/#comment-12355 Tue, 02 Mar 2010 19:30:10 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/?p=2768#comment-12355 “That leaves those who want to come here honestly and earn a
living no recourse but to do so illegally…”

They have recourse to staying home.

Do you know what a “border” is?

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By: LibertyAtStake http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2010/03/02/chart-of-the-day-the-usas-lost-decade/comment-page-1/#comment-12354 Tue, 02 Mar 2010 19:12:36 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/?p=2768#comment-12354 So, why are we adding new entitlements to the deficit at a record pace?

And, yeah, when the Obama admin gets into amnesty that needs to be stopped, too, as the charts amply demonstrate.

http://libertyatstake.blogspot.com/
[For a light hearted take our present peril]

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By: JonHocut http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2010/03/02/chart-of-the-day-the-usas-lost-decade/comment-page-1/#comment-12350 Tue, 02 Mar 2010 17:52:09 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/?p=2768#comment-12350 I don’t see any reason why immigration backlash will be limited to illegal immigrants. H1-B visa holders are experiencing a rising tide of frustration as well. The number of technically skilled Americans who can’t find work is through the roof and in my own search for a new job I am seeing companies offering salaries 20%-50% lower than what they were five years ago. I’m not saying those people should all be sent home, but the argument that there are no citizens with those skills available doesn’t hold water either.

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By: REDruin http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2010/03/02/chart-of-the-day-the-usas-lost-decade/comment-page-1/#comment-12349 Tue, 02 Mar 2010 17:30:10 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/?p=2768#comment-12349 anti-illegal immigration is still anti-immigration. The bias against any sort of immigrants coming to America is so strong that British and Canadian citizens, who have no trouble with our language, still find it almost impossible to gain citizenship except via marriage…and even then the Feds look at you with a peery eye. That leaves those who want to come here honestly and earn a living no recourse but to do so illegally, and then raise their children who might be born here as American citizens.
When you don’t allow immigrants of any stripe, illegal immigration flourishes. Back off on the hard line, and recognize that there are zillions of good people who want to come here, and things just might change for the better.

==RED

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