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		<title>By: Acetracy</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2010/04/08/does-the-crisis-portend-communism/comment-page-1/#comment-13361</link>
		<dc:creator>Acetracy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Apr 2010 14:49:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ideology, whether communism or Ann Rand type capitalism, is a recipe for disaster.

However, these arguments about &#039;isms&#039; obscures the real issues:  Rampant speculation supported by low tax rates and cheap credit will destroy any economic model, whether it is socialist like China or capitalist like the USA.

The US conservative think tanks continue this &quot;Red Baiting&quot; even after Russian communism is dead and China fills our Wallmart with their cheap goods.  Why? Because they know that if Americans (i.e Teaparty) knew how Wall Street and Commercial Real Estate have gamed the tax code and use American savings to speculate, they would rebel.

Remember Engels&#039; great quote:  The Capitalist will sell the hangman his own noose.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ideology, whether communism or Ann Rand type capitalism, is a recipe for disaster.</p>
<p>However, these arguments about &#8216;isms&#8217; obscures the real issues:  Rampant speculation supported by low tax rates and cheap credit will destroy any economic model, whether it is socialist like China or capitalist like the USA.</p>
<p>The US conservative think tanks continue this &#8220;Red Baiting&#8221; even after Russian communism is dead and China fills our Wallmart with their cheap goods.  Why? Because they know that if Americans (i.e Teaparty) knew how Wall Street and Commercial Real Estate have gamed the tax code and use American savings to speculate, they would rebel.</p>
<p>Remember Engels&#8217; great quote:  The Capitalist will sell the hangman his own noose.</p>
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		<title>By: Ghandiolfini</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2010/04/08/does-the-crisis-portend-communism/comment-page-1/#comment-13360</link>
		<dc:creator>Ghandiolfini</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Apr 2010 13:38:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good one Karen 22, Catch 22...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good one Karen 22, Catch 22&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: karen22</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2010/04/08/does-the-crisis-portend-communism/comment-page-1/#comment-13358</link>
		<dc:creator>karen22</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Apr 2010 13:05:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;As long as politics is the shadow cast on society by big business, the attenuation of the shadow will not change the substance.&quot; - John Dewey</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;As long as politics is the shadow cast on society by big business, the attenuation of the shadow will not change the substance.&#8221; &#8211; John Dewey</p>
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		<title>By: Benny_Acosta</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2010/04/08/does-the-crisis-portend-communism/comment-page-1/#comment-13354</link>
		<dc:creator>Benny_Acosta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Apr 2010 23:11:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whatever the &quot;ism&quot; is doesn&#039;t really matter. What matters is whether or not the people participating in the system are people of conscience.

People refuse to do what is correct because they have no spiritual core.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whatever the &#8220;ism&#8221; is doesn&#8217;t really matter. What matters is whether or not the people participating in the system are people of conscience.</p>
<p>People refuse to do what is correct because they have no spiritual core.</p>
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		<title>By: Ghandiolfini</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2010/04/08/does-the-crisis-portend-communism/comment-page-1/#comment-13349</link>
		<dc:creator>Ghandiolfini</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Apr 2010 17:09:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...capitalism had its last spams and gasps at 9-11, that serves us right, when we get blindsided.

Imagine the opposite happened, in the country of origin, not Hamburg, the other Burg, let me not be too explicit.

It was not Russia that screwed the US over, then, they might now try to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;capitalism had its last spams and gasps at 9-11, that serves us right, when we get blindsided.</p>
<p>Imagine the opposite happened, in the country of origin, not Hamburg, the other Burg, let me not be too explicit.</p>
<p>It was not Russia that screwed the US over, then, they might now try to.</p>
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		<title>By: Ghandiolfini</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2010/04/08/does-the-crisis-portend-communism/comment-page-1/#comment-13345</link>
		<dc:creator>Ghandiolfini</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Apr 2010 14:29:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The communist credo: &#039;From each according to their ability, to each according to their need.&#039;

The capitalist credo: &#039;From each according to their want, to each according to their greed.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The communist credo: &#8216;From each according to their ability, to each according to their need.&#8217;</p>
<p>The capitalist credo: &#8216;From each according to their want, to each according to their greed.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: STORYBURN_site</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2010/04/08/does-the-crisis-portend-communism/comment-page-1/#comment-13334</link>
		<dc:creator>STORYBURN_site</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Apr 2010 22:35:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Leave poor Obama alone. We have 20 million people out of work and he&#039;s only trying to help them</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Leave poor Obama alone. We have 20 million people out of work and he&#8217;s only trying to help them</p>
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		<title>By: Ghandiolfini</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2010/04/08/does-the-crisis-portend-communism/comment-page-1/#comment-13328</link>
		<dc:creator>Ghandiolfini</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Apr 2010 20:47:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If it says Kwak, it is a duck. We are so old fashioned in our thinking. Solzhenitsyn is good, especially 1974 Nobel Peace Prize Speech, Barack and Woods take heed, so is Sakharoff and Sharanski (phonetic), only problem, the last time I saw Solzhenitsyn in a documentary in a train during a revisit to &#039;Mother Russia&#039;, his wife was crapping on his head on the Steppe. Neither of them looked happy at all.

Lots of morals to that story.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If it says Kwak, it is a duck. We are so old fashioned in our thinking. Solzhenitsyn is good, especially 1974 Nobel Peace Prize Speech, Barack and Woods take heed, so is Sakharoff and Sharanski (phonetic), only problem, the last time I saw Solzhenitsyn in a documentary in a train during a revisit to &#8216;Mother Russia&#8217;, his wife was crapping on his head on the Steppe. Neither of them looked happy at all.</p>
<p>Lots of morals to that story.</p>
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		<title>By: HBC</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2010/04/08/does-the-crisis-portend-communism/comment-page-1/#comment-13327</link>
		<dc:creator>HBC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Apr 2010 20:12:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The crisis doesn&#039;t portend communism. It was caused by it - communism for the Rich. Everybody else is supposed to take an entrepreneurial interest in the fiction enshrouding it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The crisis doesn&#8217;t portend communism. It was caused by it &#8211; communism for the Rich. Everybody else is supposed to take an entrepreneurial interest in the fiction enshrouding it.</p>
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		<title>By: learn2think</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2010/04/08/does-the-crisis-portend-communism/comment-page-1/#comment-13324</link>
		<dc:creator>learn2think</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Apr 2010 17:24:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WOW! 

The old phrases of communism about &quot;amoral capitalism&quot;? 

And people who have NOT done their own research...actually believe this?  Capitalism can be regulated...the HUMAN BEING is the source of evil---or good...!

Just curious.
 Does the book deal with the Chinese &quot;marriage&quot; of capitalism with communism?

You know...the people that fill much of our stores with THEIR goods, whom the US owes so much money to...and who (latest I heard) still sell us some rotten stuff...be it Florida&#039;s infamous Chinese drywall...or bad honey or... (the list goes on)..

It&#039;s a new twist on communism - using capitalism as their tool to maybe destroy (or at least disable) the US??

Am waiting to hear when the Chinese maybe get to drill in our plentiful fossil fuel sources---as part payment for the mega dollars they loaned us!

But dream the idealist dreams. Unrefined by your own research into old articles, books...to uncover what the past 100 or so years of communist and super socialist rule has done to the human race.  The blood would fill rivers!!! 

Find your secular &quot;religion&quot; of a workers&#039; paradise (which will turn into a worker-maintained LEADERS paradise)...

Ignore----20th century history...and the HUGE multi millions of innocents murdered...by Lenin, Stalin, others...

Or...read up on Animal Farm...or buy the $1 DVD which sometimes shows up in mostly Chinese stocked WALMART...the DVD cartoon of ANIMAL FARM!!!

Or buy an old copy of The Gulag Archipelago by Solzhenitsyn and search for his Harvard Speech online!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WOW! </p>
<p>The old phrases of communism about &#8220;amoral capitalism&#8221;? </p>
<p>And people who have NOT done their own research&#8230;actually believe this?  Capitalism can be regulated&#8230;the HUMAN BEING is the source of evil&#8212;or good&#8230;!</p>
<p>Just curious.<br />
 Does the book deal with the Chinese &#8220;marriage&#8221; of capitalism with communism?</p>
<p>You know&#8230;the people that fill much of our stores with THEIR goods, whom the US owes so much money to&#8230;and who (latest I heard) still sell us some rotten stuff&#8230;be it Florida&#8217;s infamous Chinese drywall&#8230;or bad honey or&#8230; (the list goes on)..</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a new twist on communism &#8211; using capitalism as their tool to maybe destroy (or at least disable) the US??</p>
<p>Am waiting to hear when the Chinese maybe get to drill in our plentiful fossil fuel sources&#8212;as part payment for the mega dollars they loaned us!</p>
<p>But dream the idealist dreams. Unrefined by your own research into old articles, books&#8230;to uncover what the past 100 or so years of communist and super socialist rule has done to the human race.  The blood would fill rivers!!! </p>
<p>Find your secular &#8220;religion&#8221; of a workers&#8217; paradise (which will turn into a worker-maintained LEADERS paradise)&#8230;</p>
<p>Ignore&#8212;-20th century history&#8230;and the HUGE multi millions of innocents murdered&#8230;by Lenin, Stalin, others&#8230;</p>
<p>Or&#8230;read up on Animal Farm&#8230;or buy the $1 DVD which sometimes shows up in mostly Chinese stocked WALMART&#8230;the DVD cartoon of ANIMAL FARM!!!</p>
<p>Or buy an old copy of The Gulag Archipelago by Solzhenitsyn and search for his Harvard Speech online!!!</p>
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		<title>By: david3</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2010/04/08/does-the-crisis-portend-communism/comment-page-1/#comment-13323</link>
		<dc:creator>david3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Apr 2010 17:01:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I ordered Sinclair Lewis&#039;s 1935 book &quot;It Can&#039;t Happen Here&quot; earlier this week and cannot wait to read it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I ordered Sinclair Lewis&#8217;s 1935 book &#8220;It Can&#8217;t Happen Here&#8221; earlier this week and cannot wait to read it.</p>
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		<title>By: DanHess</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2010/04/08/does-the-crisis-portend-communism/comment-page-1/#comment-13320</link>
		<dc:creator>DanHess</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Apr 2010 15:04:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Obama in his heart of hearts means to be a socialist, but he has wound up being a corporatist most all.  He has been a big disappointment to those of us who voted for him because he claimed to be an outsider not beholden to special interests.  Corporate welfarism is repugnant to both the right and the left.  

Jamie Dimon has played Obama like a fiddle and megabanks couldn&#039;t be more pleased with how the bailouts turned out.  Meanwhile the health care bill is corporate welfare to big pharma, big insurance and hospitals.  Just look at their stock price movements.  Is it any wonder the health care bill was so opposed by many at leftish firedoglake.com?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Obama in his heart of hearts means to be a socialist, but he has wound up being a corporatist most all.  He has been a big disappointment to those of us who voted for him because he claimed to be an outsider not beholden to special interests.  Corporate welfarism is repugnant to both the right and the left.  </p>
<p>Jamie Dimon has played Obama like a fiddle and megabanks couldn&#8217;t be more pleased with how the bailouts turned out.  Meanwhile the health care bill is corporate welfare to big pharma, big insurance and hospitals.  Just look at their stock price movements.  Is it any wonder the health care bill was so opposed by many at leftish firedoglake.com?</p>
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		<title>By: drewbie</title>
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		<dc:creator>drewbie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Apr 2010 14:35:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I suppose that the crisis has naturally pushed most people’s views to the left...&quot;

Count me in that group.  I wouldn&#039;t call myself a Democrat, but I&#039;m closer to being one than I was 3 years ago.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I suppose that the crisis has naturally pushed most people’s views to the left&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Count me in that group.  I wouldn&#8217;t call myself a Democrat, but I&#8217;m closer to being one than I was 3 years ago.</p>
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		<title>By: Mega</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2010/04/08/does-the-crisis-portend-communism/comment-page-1/#comment-13317</link>
		<dc:creator>Mega</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Apr 2010 13:40:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not all anti-corporatism is leftist, so you can&#039;t point to that as the sole direction in which public opinion has moved.

Neither are all, or even most, corporate chieftains rightist, as many of them have embraced, either functionally or explicitly, a central leftist plank -- namely, the obsolescence of the nation-state and the desirability of open borders.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not all anti-corporatism is leftist, so you can&#8217;t point to that as the sole direction in which public opinion has moved.</p>
<p>Neither are all, or even most, corporate chieftains rightist, as many of them have embraced, either functionally or explicitly, a central leftist plank &#8212; namely, the obsolescence of the nation-state and the desirability of open borders.</p>
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		<title>By: iflydaplanes</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2010/04/08/does-the-crisis-portend-communism/comment-page-1/#comment-13316</link>
		<dc:creator>iflydaplanes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Apr 2010 13:38:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Capitalism, socialism, communism, monarchies, even dictatorships... all those systems work on paper.  What it comes down to, what it ALWAYS comes down to is how badly the PEOPLE within the system take advantage of it and muck it up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Capitalism, socialism, communism, monarchies, even dictatorships&#8230; all those systems work on paper.  What it comes down to, what it ALWAYS comes down to is how badly the PEOPLE within the system take advantage of it and muck it up.</p>
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