Comments on: Skymeter’s congestion pricing solution http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2010/05/25/skymeters-congestion-pricing-solution/ A slice of lime in the soda Sun, 26 Oct 2014 19:05:02 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.5 By: the_iron_troll http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2010/05/25/skymeters-congestion-pricing-solution/comment-page-1/#comment-15264 Fri, 28 May 2010 17:32:08 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/?p=4010#comment-15264 Speaking of sci-fi connections, the reference to Skynet is perhaps a bit disturbing.

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By: drewbie http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2010/05/25/skymeters-congestion-pricing-solution/comment-page-1/#comment-15237 Thu, 27 May 2010 14:10:36 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/?p=4010#comment-15237 So, would this added cost be countered by a lower gas tax, licensing fee, or anything else? Or would it just be a new revenue stream?

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By: STORYBURNcom2 http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2010/05/25/skymeters-congestion-pricing-solution/comment-page-1/#comment-15232 Thu, 27 May 2010 03:20:18 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/?p=4010#comment-15232 Skymeter costs will be 1/2 of what they are today in a year’s time

http://storyburn.com

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By: HBC http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2010/05/25/skymeters-congestion-pricing-solution/comment-page-1/#comment-15219 Wed, 26 May 2010 17:29:12 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/?p=4010#comment-15219 It may be ingenious technology, but applying it to extort more money from road users whose registration fees already were supposed to ensure smooth traffic flow is an elaborate form of double dipping reminiscent of Thatcherite centralist privilegism. Call me old-fashioned if you like but I don’t think cities worth living in should ever be put behind a paywall. To me, that’s bad policy.

If urbs are too big, it’s because someone in urban planning got in over their heads. Sorry, but they should be paying, not humble road users of necessity.

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By: meander http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2010/05/25/skymeters-congestion-pricing-solution/comment-page-1/#comment-15211 Wed, 26 May 2010 12:50:40 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/?p=4010#comment-15211 If you think that precise records of exactly where you’ve been ever moment you’re in your car won’t be kept and used by the government, you aren’t paying attention. They’re already using the congestion pricing camera system in London to track cars when the police “feel they need to”.

Are you comfortable receiving speeding tickets in the mail? Subpoenas for the route data for use in family law cases? How about advertising for businesses on your frequently used routes? That’s not even considering the myriad uses and justifications for such use that will be dreamed up by law enforcement.

Once the data is collected, it’s utopian to think it won’t be repurposed and abused.

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By: Finster http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2010/05/25/skymeters-congestion-pricing-solution/comment-page-1/#comment-15208 Wed, 26 May 2010 11:36:54 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/?p=4010#comment-15208 On trucks it makes for a very efficient system. Considering that heavy trucks cause multiples of the wear and use of public roads this is effective for pricing their negative externalities on the infrastructure.

Regarding private transportation it is an Orwellian nightmare. After 9/11 no one can believe in an anonymous system that will be guarded from abuse. The completely transparent citizen will soon be a loyal subject again.

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By: FelixSalmon http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2010/05/25/skymeters-congestion-pricing-solution/comment-page-1/#comment-15203 Wed, 26 May 2010 04:23:29 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/?p=4010#comment-15203 No need for unpredictability, you’d probably not change the pricing more than once or twice a year, tops.

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By: dariustahir http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2010/05/25/skymeters-congestion-pricing-solution/comment-page-1/#comment-15198 Wed, 26 May 2010 01:09:19 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/?p=4010#comment-15198 Yeah, I agree: if the purpose of the tax is more to influence behavior than raising revenue (though it’s that too, obviously), then you need a clear price signal. But since the price might gyrate rapidly and unpredictably, how effectively will the price signal?

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By: nedofbaker http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2010/05/25/skymeters-congestion-pricing-solution/comment-page-1/#comment-15197 Wed, 26 May 2010 00:08:03 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/?p=4010#comment-15197 Completely unpredictable pricing? Great, now when I drive I can get the same warm and fuzzy feeling that I get while playing the airline ticket casino.

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