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		<title>By: xyz70</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2010/06/12/zach-kouwe-fired-again/comment-page-1/#comment-15856</link>
		<dc:creator>xyz70</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jun 2010 15:48:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Anal_yst: DB is less about finance than a culture of malice. I only read it when they&#039;re &quot;reporting&quot; on someone I don&#039;t like. Like porn, they cater to my baser instincts. Something about the culture of finance exacervates the natural tendency of internet discourse to be mean-spirited. Zero sum self-esteem issues or something. It&#039;s simply repellant and there&#039;s nothing at all to excuse that conduct though you say Kouwe&#039;s conduct isn&#039;t excused by the malicious tenor of commenters and blog postings of Bess Levin on DB.  Kouwe&#039;s a blip; guys like you represent pervasive tendency of the Internet to worsen human misery.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Anal_yst: DB is less about finance than a culture of malice. I only read it when they&#8217;re &#8220;reporting&#8221; on someone I don&#8217;t like. Like porn, they cater to my baser instincts. Something about the culture of finance exacervates the natural tendency of internet discourse to be mean-spirited. Zero sum self-esteem issues or something. It&#8217;s simply repellant and there&#8217;s nothing at all to excuse that conduct though you say Kouwe&#8217;s conduct isn&#8217;t excused by the malicious tenor of commenters and blog postings of Bess Levin on DB.  Kouwe&#8217;s a blip; guys like you represent pervasive tendency of the Internet to worsen human misery.</p>
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		<title>By: Anal_yst</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2010/06/12/zach-kouwe-fired-again/comment-page-1/#comment-15845</link>
		<dc:creator>Anal_yst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jun 2010 00:19:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@xyz70

&quot;sticks &amp; stones may break my bones...&quot;

Every writer, blogger, and professional, regardless of industry/field has to deal with haters and flamers.  If you can&#039;t stand the heat, get the F&#039; out of the fire, that is, if you&#039;re going to publish your words, you should be prepared for the inevitable storm of criticism, so its no excuse or rationale that DB commenters are malicious or mean.  

I, as well as others, offered constructive criticism, which had Kouwe taken to heart &amp; worked at, would have likely seem him still employed.  Alas, he didn&#039;t; can&#039;t help a man who can&#039;t or isn&#039;t willing to help himself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@xyz70</p>
<p>&#8220;sticks &amp; stones may break my bones&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Every writer, blogger, and professional, regardless of industry/field has to deal with haters and flamers.  If you can&#8217;t stand the heat, get the F&#8217; out of the fire, that is, if you&#8217;re going to publish your words, you should be prepared for the inevitable storm of criticism, so its no excuse or rationale that DB commenters are malicious or mean.  </p>
<p>I, as well as others, offered constructive criticism, which had Kouwe taken to heart &amp; worked at, would have likely seem him still employed.  Alas, he didn&#8217;t; can&#8217;t help a man who can&#8217;t or isn&#8217;t willing to help himself.</p>
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		<title>By: ClarkTroy</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2010/06/12/zach-kouwe-fired-again/comment-page-1/#comment-15844</link>
		<dc:creator>ClarkTroy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jun 2010 00:17:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One thing that must be said for Kouwe:  he did have that very solid story in the Times on Capco (excess protection for brokerage accounts) up in Vermont and what a ridiculous sham it was.  A story which, by the way, quickly fell to the ground with minimal follow-up, though Felix and Dealbreaker did note it at the time.

Are we really 100% clear that that problem is in the rearview?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One thing that must be said for Kouwe:  he did have that very solid story in the Times on Capco (excess protection for brokerage accounts) up in Vermont and what a ridiculous sham it was.  A story which, by the way, quickly fell to the ground with minimal follow-up, though Felix and Dealbreaker did note it at the time.</p>
<p>Are we really 100% clear that that problem is in the rearview?</p>
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		<title>By: xyz70</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2010/06/12/zach-kouwe-fired-again/comment-page-1/#comment-15834</link>
		<dc:creator>xyz70</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jun 2010 03:10:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your comments are not at all the same as comments in DB, which are a nearly pure distillation of all the malice and cruelty that lurk behind the civilized facade. I known this has no bearing on DB&#039;s business model, which is like porn, but is the 1st Amendment intended to protect malice, cruel, and hateful speech? This includes Gawker, I suppose.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your comments are not at all the same as comments in DB, which are a nearly pure distillation of all the malice and cruelty that lurk behind the civilized facade. I known this has no bearing on DB&#8217;s business model, which is like porn, but is the 1st Amendment intended to protect malice, cruel, and hateful speech? This includes Gawker, I suppose.</p>
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		<title>By: GregHao</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2010/06/12/zach-kouwe-fired-again/comment-page-1/#comment-15832</link>
		<dc:creator>GregHao</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jun 2010 01:10:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Felix, haha, you&#039;re right!  Clearly out to lunch on that one, apologies.

And the previous comment re: your not engaging more here, it isn&#039;t meant as any sort of slight but rather an impression.  There are already plenty of other platforms upon which you are quite active.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Felix, haha, you&#8217;re right!  Clearly out to lunch on that one, apologies.</p>
<p>And the previous comment re: your not engaging more here, it isn&#8217;t meant as any sort of slight but rather an impression.  There are already plenty of other platforms upon which you are quite active.</p>
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		<title>By: FelixSalmon</title>
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		<dc:creator>FelixSalmon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jun 2010 23:38:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GregHao, read it again. Zach was on the list, and now, obvs, he&#039;s off. As for engaging in the comments, I do it less than some, more than others. But I certainly don&#039;t make it a rule *never* to do it, as Kouwe seemingly did.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GregHao, read it again. Zach was on the list, and now, obvs, he&#8217;s off. As for engaging in the comments, I do it less than some, more than others. But I certainly don&#8217;t make it a rule *never* to do it, as Kouwe seemingly did.</p>
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		<title>By: GregHao</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2010/06/12/zach-kouwe-fired-again/comment-page-1/#comment-15830</link>
		<dc:creator>GregHao</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jun 2010 22:17:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;&gt; 
Prior to Thursday, at Dealbreaker, that was myself, Zach and Matt Creamer. Now it’s just me and Matt.
&lt;&lt;

If that is indeed the case, then how did Kouwe gain any sort of information if he was never on list of people who could view email/IP?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;&gt;<br />
Prior to Thursday, at Dealbreaker, that was myself, Zach and Matt Creamer. Now it’s just me and Matt.<br />
&lt;&lt;</p>
<p>If that is indeed the case, then how did Kouwe gain any sort of information if he was never on list of people who could view email/IP?</p>
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		<title>By: GregHao</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2010/06/12/zach-kouwe-fired-again/comment-page-1/#comment-15829</link>
		<dc:creator>GregHao</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jun 2010 22:15:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know that commenting here on Felix&#039;s posts a quite a lot less than on DB or any of henry blodget&#039;s various outlets and I admit that I don&#039;t always comment/read the comments here but it seems to me that while Felix does engage his &quot;audience&quot; quite a bit, I rarely see him join in on the comments on his blogs.  Again, I caveat that I don&#039;t always read the comments so my impression may be slightly off.

And this is not a slagging off of DB, but the sheer meanness of their anonymous commenters is just tiring and reason why I don&#039;t read them.  Lack of meaningful conversation is I guess another way of putting it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know that commenting here on Felix&#8217;s posts a quite a lot less than on DB or any of henry blodget&#8217;s various outlets and I admit that I don&#8217;t always comment/read the comments here but it seems to me that while Felix does engage his &#8220;audience&#8221; quite a bit, I rarely see him join in on the comments on his blogs.  Again, I caveat that I don&#8217;t always read the comments so my impression may be slightly off.</p>
<p>And this is not a slagging off of DB, but the sheer meanness of their anonymous commenters is just tiring and reason why I don&#8217;t read them.  Lack of meaningful conversation is I guess another way of putting it.</p>
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		<title>By: BessLevin</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2010/06/12/zach-kouwe-fired-again/comment-page-1/#comment-15827</link>
		<dc:creator>BessLevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jun 2010 19:34:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@absinthe-- it&#039;s not more than a couple people. In fact, now it&#039;s exactly two. Only people who have access to the publishing platform can view email/IP addresses. Prior to Thursday, at Dealbreaker, that was myself, Zach and Matt Creamer. Now it&#039;s just me and Matt.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@absinthe&#8211; it&#8217;s not more than a couple people. In fact, now it&#8217;s exactly two. Only people who have access to the publishing platform can view email/IP addresses. Prior to Thursday, at Dealbreaker, that was myself, Zach and Matt Creamer. Now it&#8217;s just me and Matt.</p>
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		<title>By: absinthe</title>
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		<dc:creator>absinthe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jun 2010 17:50:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do they have plans to restrict who on staff can view e-mail / IP addresses of commenters?  It&#039;s not clear that it needs to be more than a couple people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do they have plans to restrict who on staff can view e-mail / IP addresses of commenters?  It&#8217;s not clear that it needs to be more than a couple people.</p>
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		<title>By: najdorf</title>
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		<dc:creator>najdorf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jun 2010 17:39:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Felix, I&#039;m glad you posted this thorough analysis, which is dead on about blogging generally, but maybe you haven&#039;t spent enough time at Dealbreaker to see: 

A. How bad of a blogger Kouwe is.
B. How justified the comments criticizing him were.
C. How impossible it is to defend Kouwe as a decent blogger, journalist, or professional person (at least as revealed through his work and actions in this matter).

The reason Kouwe has struggled at both of his jobs is that he really has no idea how to add value to information that&#039;s already in the public domain, which is a large part of the job for journalists AND bloggers.  First he tried plagiarizing to cover up the fact that he doesn&#039;t know much about anything and is not a very skilled writer.  When the NYT busted him, he shifted to out-of-context and poorly selected quotes followed by poorly written paraphrases and lame jokes at Dealbreaker.  I would be hard-pressed to point to anything he did that qualified as informative, analytical, or humorous.  For all that I criticize your blogging when you make a weaker post, many of your posts add significant value to the material you&#039;re quoting, because you always link, perhaps quote an interesting portion, but then add your interpretation, analysis, or humor.  Kouwe simply doesn&#039;t know how to do any of this effectively.  He may be a fun guy to drink a beer with (I don&#039;t know), but he should not be a writer and he has now violated basic ethical obligations of writing jobs twice in an effort to avoid that fact.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Felix, I&#8217;m glad you posted this thorough analysis, which is dead on about blogging generally, but maybe you haven&#8217;t spent enough time at Dealbreaker to see: </p>
<p>A. How bad of a blogger Kouwe is.<br />
B. How justified the comments criticizing him were.<br />
C. How impossible it is to defend Kouwe as a decent blogger, journalist, or professional person (at least as revealed through his work and actions in this matter).</p>
<p>The reason Kouwe has struggled at both of his jobs is that he really has no idea how to add value to information that&#8217;s already in the public domain, which is a large part of the job for journalists AND bloggers.  First he tried plagiarizing to cover up the fact that he doesn&#8217;t know much about anything and is not a very skilled writer.  When the NYT busted him, he shifted to out-of-context and poorly selected quotes followed by poorly written paraphrases and lame jokes at Dealbreaker.  I would be hard-pressed to point to anything he did that qualified as informative, analytical, or humorous.  For all that I criticize your blogging when you make a weaker post, many of your posts add significant value to the material you&#8217;re quoting, because you always link, perhaps quote an interesting portion, but then add your interpretation, analysis, or humor.  Kouwe simply doesn&#8217;t know how to do any of this effectively.  He may be a fun guy to drink a beer with (I don&#8217;t know), but he should not be a writer and he has now violated basic ethical obligations of writing jobs twice in an effort to avoid that fact.</p>
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		<title>By: HBC</title>
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		<dc:creator>HBC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jun 2010 17:37:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe Kouwe hasn&#039;t been so much fired as overwhelmed by desire that nobody should be able to figure out where he actually works.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe Kouwe hasn&#8217;t been so much fired as overwhelmed by desire that nobody should be able to figure out where he actually works.</p>
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