Comments on: Why do minimum parking requirements still exist? http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2010/06/24/why-do-minimum-parking-requirements-still-exist/ A slice of lime in the soda Sun, 26 Oct 2014 19:05:02 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.5 By: dtc http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2010/06/24/why-do-minimum-parking-requirements-still-exist/comment-page-1/#comment-16214 Sun, 27 Jun 2010 22:39:54 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/?p=4423#comment-16214 >Your favorite buildings, your favorite cities, and your favorite vacation destinations all have one thing in common: a distinct absence of massive parking lots.

Sort of. Isn’t Las Vegas and Orlando the top vacation destinations for Americans?

Orlando- Parking lots galore.
Las Vegas- parking structures galore

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By: TimInMA http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2010/06/24/why-do-minimum-parking-requirements-still-exist/comment-page-1/#comment-16180 Fri, 25 Jun 2010 16:54:43 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/?p=4423#comment-16180 In my experience, most residents have a very strong status quo bias. At least where I live (Somerville MA, which is a pretty dense suburb of Boston with good public transit), if a developer tries to get a variance to reduce the amount of parking they have to build, the abutters will always be against it. Many abutters are against all development, even development on empty or abandoned lots. And I live 2 blocks from a subway station and in a city with planning office that is not very car-centric. I imagine it must be orders of magnitude worse in less dense areas. This, of course, makes it very difficult to increase density anywhere except where density is already high enough that many people don’t own cars. I think part of it, especially for residential projects, is that very few people who have cars can imagine that anyone could possibly survive without owning a car. So when a developer wants to build a condo building with 0.75 spots per unit, the abutters assume that everybody who buys a condo will have a car, and just park on the street (making it more difficult for the abutters who currently park on the street to find parking). It never occurs to anyone that if 25% of units don’t have parking spots, maybe those units will be purchased by people who don’t own cars. Which will be good for traffic overall, as it will reduce the number of cars per person in the neighborhood. I think until more people really understand induced demand, this is never going to change.

The other problem is political: if you are a local politician and get a project approved that the abutters hate, they will be very mad at you but basically no one else will care, so the incentives are to slow down or halt development. At least where I live, it often seems like the only think allowing development at all is the fact that the city planning board often approves projects despite strong resident disapproval. But of course the planning board is appointed and does not have to run for reelection, whereas the local politicians who would need to vote on zoning changes do. Few things upset people as much as parking in local politics.

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By: dsucher http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2010/06/24/why-do-minimum-parking-requirements-still-exist/comment-page-1/#comment-16177 Fri, 25 Jun 2010 15:33:01 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/?p=4423#comment-16177 All very good comments and in this instance perception is reality.

Parking requirements reflect desire to “capitalize for peaks” and in this instance, open parking is (still) very cheap so the capital cost is low. Land and asphalt is plentiful (and will remain so.)

Retailers will tell you that they need the excess parking (they admit it with very few exceptions) during Christmas shopping. Yes, we have huge parking lots for the twelve shopping days of Christmas when parking lots can get closer to filled.

But yes, by and large America is overparked. Heaven help a customer might have to walk, even though in shopping centers do in fact walk at least several blocks from car to store.

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By: NHCandCenter http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2010/06/24/why-do-minimum-parking-requirements-still-exist/comment-page-1/#comment-16150 Thu, 24 Jun 2010 21:56:51 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/?p=4423#comment-16150 “On the public side, people don’t perceive the cost, only the presumed benefits.”

The cost: more sprawl, less space for commercial or rental units, and more housing and energy expenditures.

Too much parking leaves cities chasing their tails http://bit.ly/9HBOeP

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By: oglethorpe http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2010/06/24/why-do-minimum-parking-requirements-still-exist/comment-page-1/#comment-16138 Thu, 24 Jun 2010 18:38:14 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/?p=4423#comment-16138 How lucky I am to be both an urban planner and the first to comment. The simple answer is that these requirements persist because there is no organized group agitating for their repeal, and enough people think they benefit in some way to push back effectively whenever the issue is raised. I speak from experience, having pushed through some parking reductions (thought not a full repeal) and lived to tell about it.

On the developer side, the standards in these ordinances have become so much a part of the fabric of the development industry’s assumptions that they are rarely questioned. Since every project (i.e. comparable) includes the required amount of parking, it’s become part of the lender’s underwriting requirements, and developers will tell you that they can’t finance a project unless they provide parking at the standard ratios. Further, national retail tenants won’t sign a lease unless their internal parking requirements are met.

On the public side, people don’t perceive the cost, only the presumed benefits. They think inadequate parking will lead to traffic problems, when the opposite is true. Where residential areas abut commercial areas, the residents think that business patrons will overwhelm their on-street supply. And everyone, everywhere hates to pay.

I totally agree with the idea of repeal, but it’ll take a lot more than a zoning change before you start seeing less parking being built in most parts of the US. Specifically, we’ll need a long track record of successful projects before the developers, lenders, and retailers start to take advantage of the relief.

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