Comments on: Finding the Journolist archive http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2010/06/29/finding-the-journolist-archive/ A slice of lime in the soda Sun, 26 Oct 2014 19:05:02 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.5 By: traducere romana daneza http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2010/06/29/finding-the-journolist-archive/comment-page-1/#comment-53373 Mon, 29 Sep 2014 13:52:46 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/?p=4495#comment-53373 For any closer (but safer) shave, on your 2nd time about, attempt moving the blade throughout the grain inside a kind of sideways swipe. In the event you hair grows down, shave from left to appropriate (or suitable to remaining). This may offer you a closer shave without having as significantly irritation as shaving towards the grain.

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By: hazelgranger http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2010/06/29/finding-the-journolist-archive/comment-page-1/#comment-38214 Mon, 23 Apr 2012 09:16:41 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/?p=4495#comment-38214 “If I were a member, I would ask for $250,000 and stipulate that the money had to be donated, publicly, to Planned Parenthood and NARAL.” – Do you really think that it could be better to ask for this big amount of money?
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By: wjamyers http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2010/06/29/finding-the-journolist-archive/comment-page-1/#comment-32662 Wed, 02 Nov 2011 14:07:45 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/?p=4495#comment-32662 “I hold out hope that Breitbart’s fishing expedition will come up empty” why?

do you have something to hide?

was journolist really ever about anyOTHER then coordinating the democrats narrative?

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By: edwardvielmetti http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2010/06/29/finding-the-journolist-archive/comment-page-1/#comment-16323 Thu, 01 Jul 2010 15:31:55 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/?p=4495#comment-16323 “I don’t know how easy or difficult that would have been, but I’m quite sure that it’s beyond the technical ability of most of Journolist’s membership.”

If that is really the case, it’s better evidence than ever before that we need a better press corps, including a press corps that has even the most basic of technology skills.

As evidence that it’s not the case, I give you

http://elenasinbox.com/

which is a reconstruction of Supreme Court nominee Elena Kagan’s inbox, pieced together from archival records. Compared to that, downloading your own email is as easy as it gets.

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By: HBC http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2010/06/29/finding-the-journolist-archive/comment-page-1/#comment-16308 Thu, 01 Jul 2010 03:06:53 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/?p=4495#comment-16308 Presuming there were implied consent to have ones email address bought or sold by any old flabby popinjay may not be the most lurid aspect of Breitbart’s prostitute mentality, corporatist sycophancy and outright scorn for the First Amendment.

But until outdone by axe-murdering cannibals making internet offers to acquire the fat boy’s whereabouts with a view to deep-frying his sweaty cadaver, as an illustration of his venality it may have to suffice.

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By: bigdaddyva http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2010/06/29/finding-the-journolist-archive/comment-page-1/#comment-16288 Wed, 30 Jun 2010 16:30:38 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/?p=4495#comment-16288 If I were a member, I would ask for $250,000 and stipulate that the money had to be donated, publicly, to Planned Parenthood and NARAL.

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By: Cynic http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2010/06/29/finding-the-journolist-archive/comment-page-1/#comment-16281 Wed, 30 Jun 2010 14:10:08 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/?p=4495#comment-16281 I don’t think Breitbart is going to get the full archive – I’d be awfully surprised if any member of JournoList was interested in cooperating with him, whatever the promised rewards.

But neither do I think that we’ve heard the last of JournoList. It’s not clear who had it in for Weigel, or why, but it’s not hard to imagine other members of the mailing list finding themselves in similar trouble. I strongly suspect the underlying motivation was a sense of hypocrisy – most likely a leftist annoyed that Weigel appeared friendly to conservatives in print while bad-mouthing leading figures in private, or a right-leaning member (and there were a few) ticked that Weigel was covering the conservative beat while writing such e-mails. And I’d be willing to wager that, sooner or later, some other member of the JournoList will incur the suspicion or professional jealousies of one of his peers. Someone will dig up an old e-mail appearing to reveal hypocrisy, and deliberately leak it. I can’t believe that Dave Weigel was the only intemperate member of the list, and so fireworks will again ensue. Indeed, it may well be worse next time. At least Weigel, as a reporter-blogger, was expected to have some personal views. Imagine the firestorm if a straight-up reporter is revealed to have expressed personal contempt for or animosity toward his sources, or to persons that he has covered.

So no, we’re not going to see all 400 members embarrassed. But the list will hang over the heads of a more limited number, a veritable Damocles’ Sword. And even if none of its messages are ever again leaked – and I find that improbable – it will nevertheless have a corrosive effect. Members know what they wrote. They know what can one day be used against them. And that knowledge is likely to constrain their future writing, perhaps push them to preemptively make recompense or to demonstrate their actual objectivity by flattering those whom they insulted, and otherwise warp their journalistic judgment.

Ezra Klein was naive to think such a discussion could ever remain private, and those participants who were unwise enough to voice opinions over the list that they would not have otherwise expressed in public were similarly unwise. The damage they did to the public trust and to their own careers is only now starting to become clear.

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By: dsquared http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2010/06/29/finding-the-journolist-archive/comment-page-1/#comment-16275 Wed, 30 Jun 2010 12:29:33 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/?p=4495#comment-16275 Sounds like an easy way for someone to get themselves in a hell of a lot of legal trouble. Offering to pay $100k for someone else’s private email is not protected journalism even in the USA, as far as I’m aware, and there was at least one EU citizen on that list who might be tempted to assert his Article 8 right to privacy (cf: the News of the World phone-hacking scam). This would be the stupidest thing Breitbart or anyone else could do, given that a) $100k doesn’t necessarily go all that far in the English courts and b) the identity of the person who leaked it (and the person who leaked Weigel’s original email) would certainly come out during discovery. Breitbart really needs to get a new lawyer if he thinks he’s able to make that guarantee of “protection” to someone selling an archive of other peoples’ mail for a hundred grand.

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By: TimWorstall http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2010/06/29/finding-the-journolist-archive/comment-page-1/#comment-16274 Wed, 30 Jun 2010 09:30:12 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/?p=4495#comment-16274 Sounds like an easy way for Ezra to make $100 k though….

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By: HBC http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2010/06/29/finding-the-journolist-archive/comment-page-1/#comment-16264 Tue, 29 Jun 2010 22:45:28 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/?p=4495#comment-16264 Come on, anita. Until such time as the stoolpigeon(s) behind it be unmasked, your suggestion that Democrats benefit from spin on this story has the (surely) unintended effect of maintaining an illusion all of its own, namely that there really is a two-party system worth arguing about.

The fact of right-wing radicals being garish circus clowns in no way exonerates pwogwessive mimes of the mens rea involved in trying to out-clown them and still hog the middle of the road. That’s a losing battle of the first order, also a major distraction from other things.

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