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	<title>Comments on: Counterparties</title>
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	<description>A slice of lime in the soda</description>
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		<title>By: HBC</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2010/07/16/counterparties-196/comment-page-1/#comment-16867</link>
		<dc:creator>HBC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jul 2010 20:43:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dan Hess, and I mean this in the most tasteful fashion possible, optimism&#039;s the only way you can possibly call today&#039;s Western economy a free one. People who live in glass houses, copulation control, etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan Hess, and I mean this in the most tasteful fashion possible, optimism&#8217;s the only way you can possibly call today&#8217;s Western economy a free one. People who live in glass houses, copulation control, etc.</p>
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		<title>By: DanHess</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2010/07/16/counterparties-196/comment-page-1/#comment-16829</link>
		<dc:creator>DanHess</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jul 2010 15:11:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rosling&#039;s self-loathing plan to turn the western world into some kind of chattel for the poorer world fails to take into account that most of the western world&#039;s population is already starting to crash.  He should have had cut the western box in half for the 2050 segment.

In any case, it seems Rosling confuses correlation with causation.  Rosling clearly has the relationship backwards.  If a country reduces its birthrate then it climbs out of poverty.  All of the nations he emphasizes, China, India, Bangladesh and so on emphasized birth control first and became less poor next.

What if a country just receives wealth?  Will that alone control its population?  Quite the opposite.  Saudi Arabia discovered oil in 1938 and established a welfare state.  Its population went from 4 million in 1960 to 29 million today.  
Have a look at this chart.  Stunning.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Saudi-Arabia-demography.png

Rosling&#039;s plan is a plan to get the developing world&#039;s population to 10 or 15 billion.  Eventually a nasty resource limit will be hit and the wealthier nations would have to ditch the poor to feed themselves.  An ugly outcome indeed.

What liberals like you Felix always struggle to grasp is that free markets are usually the most merciful.  Utopian it is not.  Maybe you are too much of an optimist to be an economist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rosling&#8217;s self-loathing plan to turn the western world into some kind of chattel for the poorer world fails to take into account that most of the western world&#8217;s population is already starting to crash.  He should have had cut the western box in half for the 2050 segment.</p>
<p>In any case, it seems Rosling confuses correlation with causation.  Rosling clearly has the relationship backwards.  If a country reduces its birthrate then it climbs out of poverty.  All of the nations he emphasizes, China, India, Bangladesh and so on emphasized birth control first and became less poor next.</p>
<p>What if a country just receives wealth?  Will that alone control its population?  Quite the opposite.  Saudi Arabia discovered oil in 1938 and established a welfare state.  Its population went from 4 million in 1960 to 29 million today.<br />
Have a look at this chart.  Stunning.<br />
<a href='http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Saudi-Arabia-demography.png'>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Saudi- Arabia-demography.png</a></p>
<p>Rosling&#8217;s plan is a plan to get the developing world&#8217;s population to 10 or 15 billion.  Eventually a nasty resource limit will be hit and the wealthier nations would have to ditch the poor to feed themselves.  An ugly outcome indeed.</p>
<p>What liberals like you Felix always struggle to grasp is that free markets are usually the most merciful.  Utopian it is not.  Maybe you are too much of an optimist to be an economist.</p>
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		<title>By: dWj</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2010/07/16/counterparties-196/comment-page-1/#comment-16825</link>
		<dc:creator>dWj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jul 2010 13:58:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find it odd that, after that history of congressional reapportionment, he leaves out the change in the forties to the current system (which avoids the Alabama paradox), leaving the impression that we still use the previous system.

I put together the web page posted at
http://tinyurl.com/2cpww9z
around 2001; it provides a very brief characterization of the modern method, but is mostly just numbers related to the last apportionment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find it odd that, after that history of congressional reapportionment, he leaves out the change in the forties to the current system (which avoids the Alabama paradox), leaving the impression that we still use the previous system.</p>
<p>I put together the web page posted at<br />
<a href='http://tinyurl.com/2cpww9z'>http://tinyurl.com/2cpww9z</a><br />
around 2001; it provides a very brief characterization of the modern method, but is mostly just numbers related to the last apportionment.</p>
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		<title>By: s1s</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2010/07/16/counterparties-196/comment-page-1/#comment-16817</link>
		<dc:creator>s1s</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jul 2010 11:30:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Felix, this is regarding India&#039;s new symbol for its currency Rupee. The quote &quot;It&#039;s just a symbol&quot; attributed by you to the designer was actually made by the Information and Broadcasting minister Ambika Soni as per Gulf News. Even that is incorrect. You are much better off picking Indian stories from Indian media to ensure accuracy. Here is the full and correct story http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/biz/india-business/Indian-rupee-gets-a-symbol-joins-elite-currency-club/articleshow/6171234.cms</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Felix, this is regarding India&#8217;s new symbol for its currency Rupee. The quote &#8220;It&#8217;s just a symbol&#8221; attributed by you to the designer was actually made by the Information and Broadcasting minister Ambika Soni as per Gulf News. Even that is incorrect. You are much better off picking Indian stories from Indian media to ensure accuracy. Here is the full and correct story <a href='http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/biz/india-business/Indian-rupee-gets-a-symbol-joins-elite-currency-club/articleshow/6171234.cms'>http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/biz/i ndia-business/Indian-rupee-gets-a-symbol -joins-elite-currency-club/articleshow/6 171234.cms</a></p>
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