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		<title>By: joetauke</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2010/10/15/the-daily-caller-vs-the-banks/comment-page-1/#comment-19715</link>
		<dc:creator>joetauke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Oct 2010 17:20:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi there. I&#039;m Joe Tauke, so I would probably be the best person to answer your question. The Comptroller of the Currency only lists what banks will owe if the derivatives are activated, which is 233 trillion dollars. Those derivatives will be activated. All that&#039;s left is the court system&#039;s willingness to activate them, because courts, up until this point, have been acting quite stupidly, and I intend to highlight this in my next piece, which will examine why judges have been saying quite extraordinary things like, &quot;Well they owe someone, don&#039;t they?&quot; to proceed with foreclosure cases that would force homeowners to pay not &quot;someone,&quot; but a particular bank, in order to keep their homes.

The derivatives will be activated. I just want to tell you why. Courts won&#039;t keep acting this way forever, and when they stop, that will make the derivatives very, very important.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi there. I&#8217;m Joe Tauke, so I would probably be the best person to answer your question. The Comptroller of the Currency only lists what banks will owe if the derivatives are activated, which is 233 trillion dollars. Those derivatives will be activated. All that&#8217;s left is the court system&#8217;s willingness to activate them, because courts, up until this point, have been acting quite stupidly, and I intend to highlight this in my next piece, which will examine why judges have been saying quite extraordinary things like, &#8220;Well they owe someone, don&#8217;t they?&#8221; to proceed with foreclosure cases that would force homeowners to pay not &#8220;someone,&#8221; but a particular bank, in order to keep their homes.</p>
<p>The derivatives will be activated. I just want to tell you why. Courts won&#8217;t keep acting this way forever, and when they stop, that will make the derivatives very, very important.</p>
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		<title>By: comment1</title>
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		<dc:creator>comment1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Oct 2010 13:23:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Last paragraph of the Tauke piece -- &quot;The total dollar value of all derivatives in the American financial system is listed by the Office of the Comptroller of the Currency at an absolutely incomprehensible $233 trillion.&quot;

Does the Comptroller of the Currency really confuse notional value with actual dollar value, or is it Tauke?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Last paragraph of the Tauke piece &#8212; &#8220;The total dollar value of all derivatives in the American financial system is listed by the Office of the Comptroller of the Currency at an absolutely incomprehensible $233 trillion.&#8221;</p>
<p>Does the Comptroller of the Currency really confuse notional value with actual dollar value, or is it Tauke?</p>
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		<title>By: MichelDelving</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2010/10/15/the-daily-caller-vs-the-banks/comment-page-1/#comment-19525</link>
		<dc:creator>MichelDelving</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Oct 2010 02:45:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you read nothing else of Joseph Tauke&#039;s piece, read his last paragraph:

&quot;It gets worse. The equally-infamous credit-default swaps that bankrupted AIG will come roaring back with a vengeance as the foreclosure process grinds to a halt. Credit-default swaps are financial instruments called derivatives, which are assets with values determined by other assets. WHEN A MORTGAGE ISN&#039;T REALLY A MORTGAGE, A DERIVATIVE BASED ON THAT MORTGAGE IS SUDDENLY CALLED INTO QUESTION.  Banks own trillions in derivatives. They also own derivatives of derivatives. Amazingly, they even own derivatives of derivatives of derivatives. The total dollar value of all derivatives in the American financial system is listed by the Office of the Comptroller of the Currency at an absolutely incomprehensible $233 trillion. And much of that will simply vanish into thin air, crashing major banks into the ground.&quot;

Can THIS be the real reason DOJ isn&#039;t moving on fraudulent FC issues?  Better to keep on screwing homeowners and destroying the middle class than crash the system.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you read nothing else of Joseph Tauke&#8217;s piece, read his last paragraph:</p>
<p>&#8220;It gets worse. The equally-infamous credit-default swaps that bankrupted AIG will come roaring back with a vengeance as the foreclosure process grinds to a halt. Credit-default swaps are financial instruments called derivatives, which are assets with values determined by other assets. WHEN A MORTGAGE ISN&#8217;T REALLY A MORTGAGE, A DERIVATIVE BASED ON THAT MORTGAGE IS SUDDENLY CALLED INTO QUESTION.  Banks own trillions in derivatives. They also own derivatives of derivatives. Amazingly, they even own derivatives of derivatives of derivatives. The total dollar value of all derivatives in the American financial system is listed by the Office of the Comptroller of the Currency at an absolutely incomprehensible $233 trillion. And much of that will simply vanish into thin air, crashing major banks into the ground.&#8221;</p>
<p>Can THIS be the real reason DOJ isn&#8217;t moving on fraudulent FC issues?  Better to keep on screwing homeowners and destroying the middle class than crash the system.</p>
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		<title>By: hsvkitty</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2010/10/15/the-daily-caller-vs-the-banks/comment-page-1/#comment-19507</link>
		<dc:creator>hsvkitty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Oct 2010 16:30:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>johnhhaskell,  the Obama bashers are just that.  How do you manage to blame systemic corruption on one person?  
Do you really think that by bringing down a President would bring stability, when it is bank greed and lack of ethics and respect for law that caused this?

THE USA needs to have an ethics taught in schools, because even the Robosigners are at fault for not knowing any mumbo jumbo legalese, such as what the term mortgage means, and for signing forged documents in other people&#039;s names, when documents clearly state they are signing that they read all of the documents pertaining to the foreclosures.  The banks hired people to forge... so do you throw them all in jail.  (I say yes, there are people in jail who did less)
 
Felix, when I read the story , it was difficult to see any partisanship, because it was a bank bashing article.  What I saw it was an indepth compilation of what I had been reading on many sites and I felt as though I was reading the truth.  Is it a sign of things to come?

There does have to be a time when both sides come together for the people, because that is who vote them into office and who they are to be working for, but as we all know the money talks and lobbyists are what keep so many dishonest.  

They did have a consencus...3808, the bill rushed through  senate and congress even though it had been languishing for years.  (BTW  johnhhaskel, it is not passed yet as the President refused to sign and it was sent back)          

“Interstate Recognition of Notarizations Act of 2010” doesn&#039;t read likea fix.  Perhaps because the notes had been electronically generated and  traded around the cyber world, this act seemed like a good idea.  (or perhaps was written to make a loophole?  hopefully not) 

I suppose if an electronic copy of the original note was given a dispensation for trading hands and felicitate trades, then they were probably going to make it stick as a fix, but how?  It needed a signed notary and seal...   Oh yeah... so did some of the other forged documents...

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=h111-3808</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>johnhhaskell,  the Obama bashers are just that.  How do you manage to blame systemic corruption on one person?<br />
Do you really think that by bringing down a President would bring stability, when it is bank greed and lack of ethics and respect for law that caused this?</p>
<p>THE USA needs to have an ethics taught in schools, because even the Robosigners are at fault for not knowing any mumbo jumbo legalese, such as what the term mortgage means, and for signing forged documents in other people&#8217;s names, when documents clearly state they are signing that they read all of the documents pertaining to the foreclosures.  The banks hired people to forge&#8230; so do you throw them all in jail.  (I say yes, there are people in jail who did less)</p>
<p>Felix, when I read the story , it was difficult to see any partisanship, because it was a bank bashing article.  What I saw it was an indepth compilation of what I had been reading on many sites and I felt as though I was reading the truth.  Is it a sign of things to come?</p>
<p>There does have to be a time when both sides come together for the people, because that is who vote them into office and who they are to be working for, but as we all know the money talks and lobbyists are what keep so many dishonest.  </p>
<p>They did have a consencus&#8230;3808, the bill rushed through  senate and congress even though it had been languishing for years.  (BTW  johnhhaskel, it is not passed yet as the President refused to sign and it was sent back)          </p>
<p>“Interstate Recognition of Notarizations Act of 2010” doesn&#8217;t read likea fix.  Perhaps because the notes had been electronically generated and  traded around the cyber world, this act seemed like a good idea.  (or perhaps was written to make a loophole?  hopefully not) </p>
<p>I suppose if an electronic copy of the original note was given a dispensation for trading hands and felicitate trades, then they were probably going to make it stick as a fix, but how?  It needed a signed notary and seal&#8230;   Oh yeah&#8230; so did some of the other forged documents&#8230;</p>
<p><a href='http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=h111-3808'>http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext .xpd?bill=h111-3808</a></p>
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		<title>By: johnhhaskell</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2010/10/15/the-daily-caller-vs-the-banks/comment-page-1/#comment-19498</link>
		<dc:creator>johnhhaskell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Oct 2010 11:04:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perjury is a state offense.  Congressional action is not needed to put these banks into hot water.  The Ohio AG has more than enough already to kick GMAC, alias &quot;Ally,&quot; out of the state.  Maybe this makes me an old timer, but I remember a US President who got impeached for perjuring himself.  It isn&#039;t a &quot;paperwork glitch.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perjury is a state offense.  Congressional action is not needed to put these banks into hot water.  The Ohio AG has more than enough already to kick GMAC, alias &#8220;Ally,&#8221; out of the state.  Maybe this makes me an old timer, but I remember a US President who got impeached for perjuring himself.  It isn&#8217;t a &#8220;paperwork glitch.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: hsvkitty</title>
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		<dc:creator>hsvkitty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Oct 2010 03:56:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There can be no tarp 2.  The people will tear the banks down brick by brick before that happens again.  

The banks created the monster.  Why should tax payers again be on the hook to bail them out?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There can be no tarp 2.  The people will tear the banks down brick by brick before that happens again.  </p>
<p>The banks created the monster.  Why should tax payers again be on the hook to bail them out?</p>
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		<title>By: KidDynamite</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2010/10/15/the-daily-caller-vs-the-banks/comment-page-1/#comment-19485</link>
		<dc:creator>KidDynamite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Oct 2010 01:27:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>and herein lies the political conundrum - they NEED to go after the banks to win the election, but if they do, they&#039;ll then have the problem of TARP 2.0 being needed... no one wants that!

Of course, there&#039;s another solution - go after the banks, and bankrupt them for the phantom note MBS problem (if it is indeed a widespread problem)... does anyone view that outcome as highly likely?  ($1.3B won&#039;t cover it!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and herein lies the political conundrum &#8211; they NEED to go after the banks to win the election, but if they do, they&#8217;ll then have the problem of TARP 2.0 being needed&#8230; no one wants that!</p>
<p>Of course, there&#8217;s another solution &#8211; go after the banks, and bankrupt them for the phantom note MBS problem (if it is indeed a widespread problem)&#8230; does anyone view that outcome as highly likely?  ($1.3B won&#8217;t cover it!)</p>
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