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	<title>Comments on: A guide to the market oligopoly system</title>
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	<description>A slice of lime in the soda</description>
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		<title>By: FelixSalmon</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2010/12/28/a-guide-to-the-market-oligopoly-system/comment-page-1/#comment-22632</link>
		<dc:creator>FelixSalmon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Jan 2011 20:07:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Ed! I have to admit I&#039;ve always been a bit fuzzy on that front, thanks for clearing it up. There goes my plan to make millions by plastering this picture all over coffee mugs :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Ed! I have to admit I&#8217;ve always been a bit fuzzy on that front, thanks for clearing it up. There goes my plan to make millions by plastering this picture all over coffee mugs :-)</p>
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		<title>By: EdwardWinkleman</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2010/12/28/a-guide-to-the-market-oligopoly-system/comment-page-1/#comment-22628</link>
		<dc:creator>EdwardWinkleman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Jan 2011 17:48:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Quick note, for clarity, Felix. Although you own the drawing, William still owns its copyright. He&#039;s not the litigious type as you know, but it&#039;s worth nothing that collectors can&#039;t legally grant the right to reproduce artwork.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quick note, for clarity, Felix. Although you own the drawing, William still owns its copyright. He&#8217;s not the litigious type as you know, but it&#8217;s worth nothing that collectors can&#8217;t legally grant the right to reproduce artwork.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam_Dobermann</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2010/12/28/a-guide-to-the-market-oligopoly-system/comment-page-1/#comment-22580</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam_Dobermann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Jan 2011 04:10:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Felix,
Thanks, I love the drawing and your discussion, too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Felix,<br />
Thanks, I love the drawing and your discussion, too.</p>
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		<title>By: FelixSalmon</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2010/12/28/a-guide-to-the-market-oligopoly-system/comment-page-1/#comment-22526</link>
		<dc:creator>FelixSalmon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Dec 2010 00:10:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@lambertstrether, yes you can! Reuters doesn&#039;t own the drawing, I do. And I promise I&#039;m not going to sue anyone for reposting it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@lambertstrether, yes you can! Reuters doesn&#8217;t own the drawing, I do. And I promise I&#8217;m not going to sue anyone for reposting it.</p>
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		<title>By: RJKYorkville</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2010/12/28/a-guide-to-the-market-oligopoly-system/comment-page-1/#comment-22517</link>
		<dc:creator>RJKYorkville</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Dec 2010 20:54:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I squint at this delightful piece, I&#039;m reminded of &quot;outsider&quot; artist Achilles Rizzoli (1896-1981), a true California dreamer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I squint at this delightful piece, I&#8217;m reminded of &#8220;outsider&#8221; artist Achilles Rizzoli (1896-1981), a true California dreamer.</p>
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		<title>By: Orchidseye</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2010/12/28/a-guide-to-the-market-oligopoly-system/comment-page-1/#comment-22475</link>
		<dc:creator>Orchidseye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Dec 2010 06:51:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i like the lettering</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i like the lettering</p>
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		<title>By: lambertstrether</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2010/12/28/a-guide-to-the-market-oligopoly-system/comment-page-1/#comment-22462</link>
		<dc:creator>lambertstrether</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Dec 2010 04:09:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, can I repost Oligopoly_lo.jpg without being sued by you or Reuters? 

How about if I reframe this comment, and my subsequent post, as brilliantly subversive work of art?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, can I repost Oligopoly_lo.jpg without being sued by you or Reuters? </p>
<p>How about if I reframe this comment, and my subsequent post, as brilliantly subversive work of art?</p>
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		<title>By: LEEDAP</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2010/12/28/a-guide-to-the-market-oligopoly-system/comment-page-1/#comment-22429</link>
		<dc:creator>LEEDAP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Dec 2010 19:02:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The art market is funny. At the top, it is financed by buyers who can afford it, thus it is certainly an oligopoly. However, at the bottom it is also influenced by the artist, sometimes driven purely by supply, as evidenced by the form known as graffiti. How many markets do you know that are driven purely by supply? So, it is strange both at the top and the bottom and it is all very interesting from one perspective or another.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The art market is funny. At the top, it is financed by buyers who can afford it, thus it is certainly an oligopoly. However, at the bottom it is also influenced by the artist, sometimes driven purely by supply, as evidenced by the form known as graffiti. How many markets do you know that are driven purely by supply? So, it is strange both at the top and the bottom and it is all very interesting from one perspective or another.</p>
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		<title>By: RobertWBoyd</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2010/12/28/a-guide-to-the-market-oligopoly-system/comment-page-1/#comment-22424</link>
		<dc:creator>RobertWBoyd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Dec 2010 17:56:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;This is where the collector hypocrisy comes in: collectors love to say that they buy art just because they love it, and that they will never sell it. [...] But the fact is that beyond a relatively modest initial level, no collectors will buy anything unless they think that it has real monetary value now, or will have it in the future.&quot;

Is this really true? I am a collector but on that modest level you describe. I make an assumption that anything I buy almost instantly drops to a value of zero--in short, has no investment value whatsoever. Clearly this is not how people at the upper reaches think. But I think there is a large group in the middle that have all sorts of complex motivations when they buy art.

I&#039;m sure there are some naive ones who buy art thinking it is an investment. But surely most people who are willing to spend, say, $25,000 on a piece of art have done enough research into art values to realize that there is a good chance that the piece they bought will drop in value--and drop precipitously--as soon as they buy it. Now does that mean it doesn&#039;t have value for the collector? On the contrary, the ability to buy an object with no practical value for thousands of dollars that instantly loses most of its value is itself valuable--it signals your taste and wealth to your peers. Plus the collector may just like the piece. (And liking a piece of art today is not a promise to like it forever.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;This is where the collector hypocrisy comes in: collectors love to say that they buy art just because they love it, and that they will never sell it. [...] But the fact is that beyond a relatively modest initial level, no collectors will buy anything unless they think that it has real monetary value now, or will have it in the future.&#8221;</p>
<p>Is this really true? I am a collector but on that modest level you describe. I make an assumption that anything I buy almost instantly drops to a value of zero&#8211;in short, has no investment value whatsoever. Clearly this is not how people at the upper reaches think. But I think there is a large group in the middle that have all sorts of complex motivations when they buy art.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure there are some naive ones who buy art thinking it is an investment. But surely most people who are willing to spend, say, $25,000 on a piece of art have done enough research into art values to realize that there is a good chance that the piece they bought will drop in value&#8211;and drop precipitously&#8211;as soon as they buy it. Now does that mean it doesn&#8217;t have value for the collector? On the contrary, the ability to buy an object with no practical value for thousands of dollars that instantly loses most of its value is itself valuable&#8211;it signals your taste and wealth to your peers. Plus the collector may just like the piece. (And liking a piece of art today is not a promise to like it forever.)</p>
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		<title>By: FelixSalmon</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2010/12/28/a-guide-to-the-market-oligopoly-system/comment-page-1/#comment-22413</link>
		<dc:creator>FelixSalmon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Dec 2010 14:38:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eli Broad, I believe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eli Broad, I believe.</p>
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		<title>By: MickWeinstein</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2010/12/28/a-guide-to-the-market-oligopoly-system/comment-page-1/#comment-22390</link>
		<dc:creator>MickWeinstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Dec 2010 09:08:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brilliant all around. Who is the oligopolist in the upper right corner?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brilliant all around. Who is the oligopolist in the upper right corner?</p>
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		<title>By: EpicureanDeal</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2010/12/28/a-guide-to-the-market-oligopoly-system/comment-page-1/#comment-22346</link>
		<dc:creator>EpicureanDeal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Dec 2010 18:53:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Even better, Powhida&#039;s pyramidal composition leaves the most logical spot for the footnotes and commentary right at the top of the drawing, where it is certain to attract notice from even the least geeky viewers.  A free art world education to all comers.  Clever and subversive, too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even better, Powhida&#8217;s pyramidal composition leaves the most logical spot for the footnotes and commentary right at the top of the drawing, where it is certain to attract notice from even the least geeky viewers.  A free art world education to all comers.  Clever and subversive, too.</p>
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