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		<title>By: MikeInAtlanta</title>
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		<dc:creator>MikeInAtlanta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Apr 2011 00:50:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great article! I&#039;ve been wondering about the fact that in the USA the top environments for startups seem to be mostly in some of the highest taxed places...Silicon Valley, New York, Boston, etc. I&#039;m not sure about taxes in Boulder and Austen relative to average communities but I know the top three are much higher. And yet young entrepreneurs continue to migrate there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article! I&#8217;ve been wondering about the fact that in the USA the top environments for startups seem to be mostly in some of the highest taxed places&#8230;Silicon Valley, New York, Boston, etc. I&#8217;m not sure about taxes in Boulder and Austen relative to average communities but I know the top three are much higher. And yet young entrepreneurs continue to migrate there.</p>
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		<title>By: otbergo</title>
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		<dc:creator>otbergo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Mar 2011 17:34:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s how to become Norway:

1) See to it, that most of the people read at least one daily newspaper, giving the electorate a good knowledge of political and social issues, business and a global outlook.
2) Make the journalists compete to reveal crime and corruption in business and politics.
3) See to it, that the voters elect honest, hardworking politicians, taking wise decisions for local and central government. 
4) Make the government sector transparent, so, though honest, nobody is tempted to be dishonest or behave corruptly. 
5) Create good relations to all your neighbor countries, even Swedes and Russians. 
6) Take good care of all your citizens.
7) See to it, that almost everybody has a job.
8) Continue like that for at least 100 years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s how to become Norway:</p>
<p>1) See to it, that most of the people read at least one daily newspaper, giving the electorate a good knowledge of political and social issues, business and a global outlook.<br />
2) Make the journalists compete to reveal crime and corruption in business and politics.<br />
3) See to it, that the voters elect honest, hardworking politicians, taking wise decisions for local and central government.<br />
4) Make the government sector transparent, so, though honest, nobody is tempted to be dishonest or behave corruptly.<br />
5) Create good relations to all your neighbor countries, even Swedes and Russians.<br />
6) Take good care of all your citizens.<br />
7) See to it, that almost everybody has a job.<br />
8) Continue like that for at least 100 years.</p>
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		<title>By: stickman</title>
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		<dc:creator>stickman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Feb 2011 21:20:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank God, someone has pointed out the banality of the &quot;it&#039;s only their oil!&quot; canard. 

Apart from the fact that Norway only spends a fraction of its oil income on the present budget - as Saadjad correctly highlighted above, AND the actual article if we&#039;re being picky -  the country had already achieved a high standard of living together with social support structures before the discovery of its oil in 1969.

As a foreigner that has lived in Norway for close on two years, I have to say that the conception (in other OECD countries especially) of what constitutes &quot;Scandinavian Socialism&quot; is often so misguided as to be all but useless. I don&#039;t agree with everything that I have experienced here, and would be cautious for suggesting how replicable their system is. However, I will say that their mixed-economy structure works for them, if nothing else, for the simple reason that everyone buys into it.

The Inc. article describes an example that was particularly striking to me as well... You can freely view the full salary and tax contributions of any and every Norwegian citizen (your neighbor, priest, date for next Friday night... even members of the Royal family) on public websites*. You can only imagine the cries of &quot;privacy invasion!&quot; if you tried to implement that kind of system in other parts of the world and yet it appears perfectly consistent with the Norwegian view of how a transparent and fair society should be run.

* E.g. http://skattelister.no/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank God, someone has pointed out the banality of the &#8220;it&#8217;s only their oil!&#8221; canard. </p>
<p>Apart from the fact that Norway only spends a fraction of its oil income on the present budget &#8211; as Saadjad correctly highlighted above, AND the actual article if we&#8217;re being picky &#8211;  the country had already achieved a high standard of living together with social support structures before the discovery of its oil in 1969.</p>
<p>As a foreigner that has lived in Norway for close on two years, I have to say that the conception (in other OECD countries especially) of what constitutes &#8220;Scandinavian Socialism&#8221; is often so misguided as to be all but useless. I don&#8217;t agree with everything that I have experienced here, and would be cautious for suggesting how replicable their system is. However, I will say that their mixed-economy structure works for them, if nothing else, for the simple reason that everyone buys into it.</p>
<p>The Inc. article describes an example that was particularly striking to me as well&#8230; You can freely view the full salary and tax contributions of any and every Norwegian citizen (your neighbor, priest, date for next Friday night&#8230; even members of the Royal family) on public websites*. You can only imagine the cries of &#8220;privacy invasion!&#8221; if you tried to implement that kind of system in other parts of the world and yet it appears perfectly consistent with the Norwegian view of how a transparent and fair society should be run.</p>
<p>* E.g. <a href='http://skattelister.no/'>http://skattelister.no/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Saadjad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Saadjad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Jan 2011 23:18:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am Norwegian and there are some facts that people simply misunderstand. Norway is not a wealthy country only because of petroleum, in fact, every year only about 4% of the income from oil and gas are used in the state budget and are not that big a part of the budget in total. The rest of the yearly savings from oil/gas are directed into a state fund, that invest globally (ownership of 1% of world stocks/ 500 billion dollars!) but are obliged to invest ethically for future generations, long term that means. The thing is rather that the fund is merely being used because it is to big and may cause inflation if it is used in a great manner. The reason for Norway being wealthy is more the effectiveness. For example social programmes for the poor and troubled, are not just social but also a way to increase domestic spending. Just as the small variations in income, the almost non existing differences between rich/average (poor people are usually poor only because of alcohol/drugs) the fact that everyone have the resources they need is better for the economy than a situation where some are struggling and other are obsessed about bling-bling things, that are also bad for morality. The high number of days of vacation and the easily restricted amount of allowed working hours is an incentive for creative development outside work, it creates a good public attitude to work so people work longer and it makes room for everyone on the jobmarket keeping the unemployment low. The taxes and living costs are just in in proportional with the average income and relatively seen just average.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am Norwegian and there are some facts that people simply misunderstand. Norway is not a wealthy country only because of petroleum, in fact, every year only about 4% of the income from oil and gas are used in the state budget and are not that big a part of the budget in total. The rest of the yearly savings from oil/gas are directed into a state fund, that invest globally (ownership of 1% of world stocks/ 500 billion dollars!) but are obliged to invest ethically for future generations, long term that means. The thing is rather that the fund is merely being used because it is to big and may cause inflation if it is used in a great manner. The reason for Norway being wealthy is more the effectiveness. For example social programmes for the poor and troubled, are not just social but also a way to increase domestic spending. Just as the small variations in income, the almost non existing differences between rich/average (poor people are usually poor only because of alcohol/drugs) the fact that everyone have the resources they need is better for the economy than a situation where some are struggling and other are obsessed about bling-bling things, that are also bad for morality. The high number of days of vacation and the easily restricted amount of allowed working hours is an incentive for creative development outside work, it creates a good public attitude to work so people work longer and it makes room for everyone on the jobmarket keeping the unemployment low. The taxes and living costs are just in in proportional with the average income and relatively seen just average.</p>
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		<title>By: Danny_Black</title>
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		<dc:creator>Danny_Black</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Jan 2011 11:43:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>y2kurtus, unless I am misunderstanding something 12,000/4 = 3,000USD and you have never experienced the lottery that is the NHS.  I think some of the best service and certainly the worst service I ever got was from the NHS.

Also 3,000 is the headline figure without all the accounting fiddling the Labour Gov was famous for.

Dollared, yet weirdly start-ups hire their first ten employees all the time in the US and in far east countries with no social safety net at all.  Or are you stating that all US companies magically formed as if from Zeus head?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>y2kurtus, unless I am misunderstanding something 12,000/4 = 3,000USD and you have never experienced the lottery that is the NHS.  I think some of the best service and certainly the worst service I ever got was from the NHS.</p>
<p>Also 3,000 is the headline figure without all the accounting fiddling the Labour Gov was famous for.</p>
<p>Dollared, yet weirdly start-ups hire their first ten employees all the time in the US and in far east countries with no social safety net at all.  Or are you stating that all US companies magically formed as if from Zeus head?</p>
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		<title>By: 74LS08</title>
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		<dc:creator>74LS08</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Jan 2011 07:01:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reuters commentators are as much in touch with reality as a proverbial bubble boy. Knowing how to use a word processor and spell checker IS NOT enough to write articles on global issues.
To prove to you that author of this article is a total moron just take Norway&#039;s GDP ($388 Bn) and than subtract proceeds from oil exports ($83bl) and  metal  exports ($9.7bl) than divide that number bu Norway&#039;s population of 4.5ml and the GDP per head will go down by $18.5K. All numbers from 2010 Economist Pocket World Guide. And if you go back to 2005 when oil prices were at $35 bbl level per head GDP was only $34K.


Reading this article was the worst waste of my time today.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reuters commentators are as much in touch with reality as a proverbial bubble boy. Knowing how to use a word processor and spell checker IS NOT enough to write articles on global issues.<br />
To prove to you that author of this article is a total moron just take Norway&#8217;s GDP ($388 Bn) and than subtract proceeds from oil exports ($83bl) and  metal  exports ($9.7bl) than divide that number bu Norway&#8217;s population of 4.5ml and the GDP per head will go down by $18.5K. All numbers from 2010 Economist Pocket World Guide. And if you go back to 2005 when oil prices were at $35 bbl level per head GDP was only $34K.</p>
<p>Reading this article was the worst waste of my time today.</p>
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		<title>By: Sinbad1</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2011/01/20/norway-entrepreneurial-paradise/comment-page-1/#comment-23477</link>
		<dc:creator>Sinbad1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Jan 2011 02:35:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Change, wow that&#039;s heavy man. I don&#039;t like my miserable life but having to change my beliefs to get something better is just to high a price to pay. If I look closely I can see that the gold could be shinier and the diamonds could have more sparkle. I mean they look cool and my kid does need that operation but I can think of so many reasons why it would not work for me. I might wait until somebody offers me a better deal, one that means I don&#039;t have to change at all and I can just keep doing the same stuff that isn&#039;t working but suddenly it does work. Wow pass the bong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Change, wow that&#8217;s heavy man. I don&#8217;t like my miserable life but having to change my beliefs to get something better is just to high a price to pay. If I look closely I can see that the gold could be shinier and the diamonds could have more sparkle. I mean they look cool and my kid does need that operation but I can think of so many reasons why it would not work for me. I might wait until somebody offers me a better deal, one that means I don&#8217;t have to change at all and I can just keep doing the same stuff that isn&#8217;t working but suddenly it does work. Wow pass the bong.</p>
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		<title>By: y2kurtus</title>
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		<dc:creator>y2kurtus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Jan 2011 22:05:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;the UK spends over 3,000USD per person on the NHS.&quot;

Between the insurance premiums deducted from my paycheck and my companies contribution, my family of 4 spends $12,000 for a policy with a $5000 deductable... so even to a republican distrustful of all things goverment... that $3,000/person dosen&#039;t look all that bad. 

By far the hardest part of the whole healthcare debate is getting everyone to be honest with themselves about rationing. It already happens to some extent now. Medicare generally won&#039;t pay for an organ transplant for anyone over 70... it&#039;s just not a defensable expendature of the money or the organ. 

You can argue that&#039;s it&#039;s unfair that Steve Jobs gets to be in the 4% of people that survive with Pancreatic Cancer for more than 5 years while your average Joe get&#039;s told to spend the next 3 months with his family... 

but hey... Jobs did change the world and lead 2 fortune 500 companies to tremendous success, paid tens of millions in taxes, and so he can afford the best of everything including healthcare. That might sicken some but it seems imminently fair to me... (and my uncle died of P/C)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;the UK spends over 3,000USD per person on the NHS.&#8221;</p>
<p>Between the insurance premiums deducted from my paycheck and my companies contribution, my family of 4 spends $12,000 for a policy with a $5000 deductable&#8230; so even to a republican distrustful of all things goverment&#8230; that $3,000/person dosen&#8217;t look all that bad. </p>
<p>By far the hardest part of the whole healthcare debate is getting everyone to be honest with themselves about rationing. It already happens to some extent now. Medicare generally won&#8217;t pay for an organ transplant for anyone over 70&#8230; it&#8217;s just not a defensable expendature of the money or the organ. </p>
<p>You can argue that&#8217;s it&#8217;s unfair that Steve Jobs gets to be in the 4% of people that survive with Pancreatic Cancer for more than 5 years while your average Joe get&#8217;s told to spend the next 3 months with his family&#8230; </p>
<p>but hey&#8230; Jobs did change the world and lead 2 fortune 500 companies to tremendous success, paid tens of millions in taxes, and so he can afford the best of everything including healthcare. That might sicken some but it seems imminently fair to me&#8230; (and my uncle died of P/C)</p>
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		<title>By: BHOlied</title>
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		<dc:creator>BHOlied</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Jan 2011 20:55:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ahhh hahaha...
HAHAHAHAHA

[…an industrial mechanic with a high-school education who chafed under his bosses, set up his own shop, and is now running a $44 million company with 150 employees. That’s the kind of story which should be common in the US but is in fact rare.] BHO: what? you can&#039;t be serious, this happens all the time in the US [But ask yourself: in the US, how much would such a person be paying in taxes? Dalmo paid $102,970 in PERSONAL taxes on his income and wealth last year, which is probably lower, not higher, than the CEO of a $44 million company would pay in taxes in the US]

Ok, how much did he PERSONALLY make?   If I have to make up numbers to get answers to obvious questions it’s not a well written article unless concealment is part of the game – Felix aren’t incomes public record?  Point being is that people pay themselves in the most tax efficient manner.  

He most likely is paying himself a low income knowing that his corporation is worth millions not unlike Warren “lets raise taxes” Buffett bc Norway&#039;s wealth tax has a laughable 1.1% max rate. 

Norway is also a very expensive place to live.  Oslo, the nation’s capital, has consistently placed in the top five most expensive cities.  I paid over $10 on the streets of Oslo for a burger in 2005.  http://finance.yahoo.com/family-home/article/109909/
the-worlds-most-expensive-cities-2010 

Most likely the results of a VAT.  And as mentioned by previous posts, petro is a huge part of the economy... from wiki:   &quot;Norway is the world’s fifth largest oil exporter, and the petroleum industry accounts for around a quarter of its Gross domestic product&quot; 
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norway   hmmm….

“You can’t just treat them like machines,” he says. “If you do, they’ll be gone.”

How is that any different than the US or any non-communist nation?

To those who mention “Nigeria, Mexico, Brazil, Iraq, Iran” who profit from oil I think its pretty clear none of these nations (besides Brazil – who’s economy is booming) are well run.  Ps Brazil receives only 12% GDP from oil ~ The Economist.  A stable region and government are contributing factors to Norway’s oil driven success.

Also consider the size (expense) of the US military compared to whatever Norway has.  I acknowledge this is a tangent, but someone someday will have to stop the next global terror (China, Russia, whoever) from whatever atrocities they choose to commit.  Norway and all of Scandinavia (and even some socialist European countries) have opted out of that equation.

We are effectively debating the success of socialism here are we not?  How many socialist societies are functioning well today or have survived for that matter?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ahhh hahaha&#8230;<br />
HAHAHAHAHA</p>
<p>[…an industrial mechanic with a high-school education who chafed under his bosses, set up his own shop, and is now running a $44 million company with 150 employees. That’s the kind of story which should be common in the US but is in fact rare.] BHO: what? you can&#8217;t be serious, this happens all the time in the US [But ask yourself: in the US, how much would such a person be paying in taxes? Dalmo paid $102,970 in PERSONAL taxes on his income and wealth last year, which is probably lower, not higher, than the CEO of a $44 million company would pay in taxes in the US]</p>
<p>Ok, how much did he PERSONALLY make?   If I have to make up numbers to get answers to obvious questions it’s not a well written article unless concealment is part of the game – Felix aren’t incomes public record?  Point being is that people pay themselves in the most tax efficient manner.  </p>
<p>He most likely is paying himself a low income knowing that his corporation is worth millions not unlike Warren “lets raise taxes” Buffett bc Norway&#8217;s wealth tax has a laughable 1.1% max rate. </p>
<p>Norway is also a very expensive place to live.  Oslo, the nation’s capital, has consistently placed in the top five most expensive cities.  I paid over $10 on the streets of Oslo for a burger in 2005.  <a href='http://finance.yahoo.com/family-home/article/109909/'>http://finance.yahoo.com/family-home/art icle/109909/</a><br />
the-worlds-most-expensive-cities-2010 </p>
<p>Most likely the results of a VAT.  And as mentioned by previous posts, petro is a huge part of the economy&#8230; from wiki:   &#8220;Norway is the world’s fifth largest oil exporter, and the petroleum industry accounts for around a quarter of its Gross domestic product&#8221;<br />
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norway   hmmm….</p>
<p>“You can’t just treat them like machines,” he says. “If you do, they’ll be gone.”</p>
<p>How is that any different than the US or any non-communist nation?</p>
<p>To those who mention “Nigeria, Mexico, Brazil, Iraq, Iran” who profit from oil I think its pretty clear none of these nations (besides Brazil – who’s economy is booming) are well run.  Ps Brazil receives only 12% GDP from oil ~ The Economist.  A stable region and government are contributing factors to Norway’s oil driven success.</p>
<p>Also consider the size (expense) of the US military compared to whatever Norway has.  I acknowledge this is a tangent, but someone someday will have to stop the next global terror (China, Russia, whoever) from whatever atrocities they choose to commit.  Norway and all of Scandinavia (and even some socialist European countries) have opted out of that equation.</p>
<p>We are effectively debating the success of socialism here are we not?  How many socialist societies are functioning well today or have survived for that matter?</p>
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		<title>By: rigpa44</title>
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		<dc:creator>rigpa44</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Jan 2011 18:13:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Instead of looking for an exact fit, take the good parts and apply them to our situation as best we can. Then reassess after a certain period of time and see what works and what doesn&#039;t. It&#039;s simple really - but not easy. But you have to have people who are williing to do things differently instead of holding onto the past. For all of the innovation the U.S. is known for, it&#039;s still stuck in thinking that anything that smells like socialism is the work of the devil. There are a lot of things being done by lots of different countries that will help the U.S. Wake up and smell the roses. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Instead of looking for an exact fit, take the good parts and apply them to our situation as best we can. Then reassess after a certain period of time and see what works and what doesn&#8217;t. It&#8217;s simple really &#8211; but not easy. But you have to have people who are williing to do things differently instead of holding onto the past. For all of the innovation the U.S. is known for, it&#8217;s still stuck in thinking that anything that smells like socialism is the work of the devil. There are a lot of things being done by lots of different countries that will help the U.S. Wake up and smell the roses. :-)</p>
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		<title>By: bruce1963</title>
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		<dc:creator>bruce1963</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Jan 2011 15:06:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In my personal experience, the #1 obstacle to people creating a small business has been the need for health insurance. One spouse has to have a full time job to permit the other spouse to start a business.  Even when that happens, the inability of a small business to provide health insurance (because the risk pool is too small) makes it very difficult to keep employees.  Even when there is health insurance, the *expense* of that insurance puts a small business at a severe disadvantage when competing with larger companies for employees.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my personal experience, the #1 obstacle to people creating a small business has been the need for health insurance. One spouse has to have a full time job to permit the other spouse to start a business.  Even when that happens, the inability of a small business to provide health insurance (because the risk pool is too small) makes it very difficult to keep employees.  Even when there is health insurance, the *expense* of that insurance puts a small business at a severe disadvantage when competing with larger companies for employees.</p>
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		<title>By: Dollared</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dollared</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Jan 2011 08:07:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Danny_Black, you wouldn&#039;t know an entrepreneur if he left you $10M via his Nigerian Registered Agent.

Here&#039;s the thing:  entrepreneurs may be all hot to trot, but they need senior engineering, marketing and sales leadership to create successful businesses.  Without a social safety net, entrepreneurs can&#039;t hire employees 3-10.  If you get past that hump, then you get VC funding, a health care plan, and you can hire senior people.  But how do you get the VC funding if you don&#039;t have the key leadership positions filled?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Danny_Black, you wouldn&#8217;t know an entrepreneur if he left you $10M via his Nigerian Registered Agent.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the thing:  entrepreneurs may be all hot to trot, but they need senior engineering, marketing and sales leadership to create successful businesses.  Without a social safety net, entrepreneurs can&#8217;t hire employees 3-10.  If you get past that hump, then you get VC funding, a health care plan, and you can hire senior people.  But how do you get the VC funding if you don&#8217;t have the key leadership positions filled?</p>
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		<title>By: Danny_Black</title>
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		<dc:creator>Danny_Black</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Jan 2011 04:51:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>nyet, maybe i am reading Dollared wrong but it struck me what he was originally claiming was that your ex-boss should have been so terrified at the possibility he might get sick with no insurance or might not be able to pay for his kid&#039;s college that he would cling to his &quot;safe job&quot; like a baby to safety blanket.  Something that was clearly not true in his case, nor i suspect in most genuine entrepreneurs.  Most the genuine entrepreneurs i met were not scared of failing but rather more scared of either not making the leap soon enough.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nyet, maybe i am reading Dollared wrong but it struck me what he was originally claiming was that your ex-boss should have been so terrified at the possibility he might get sick with no insurance or might not be able to pay for his kid&#8217;s college that he would cling to his &#8220;safe job&#8221; like a baby to safety blanket.  Something that was clearly not true in his case, nor i suspect in most genuine entrepreneurs.  Most the genuine entrepreneurs i met were not scared of failing but rather more scared of either not making the leap soon enough.</p>
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		<title>By: Danny_Black</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2011/01/20/norway-entrepreneurial-paradise/comment-page-1/#comment-23405</link>
		<dc:creator>Danny_Black</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Jan 2011 04:27:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dollared, no they left Chavez a country with huge natural resources at a time when the value of those natural resources are at record highs.  I am a bit surprised you got so offended at the comparison with the USSR given you seem to think Cuba is a model to be emulated.

The COO joined Facebook in 2008 some 4 or 5 years after it started - which once upon a time would have been considered a startup, especially given it&#039;s relatively low income in those days.  I only picked her because of your claim no one would ever leave their safe jobs at Google or Cisco for these riskier jobs.  Oh and what &quot;global investment bank&quot; invested 500m prior to her joining?

As for 500bn USD, the UK spends over 3,000USD per person on the NHS which would come to around double what you are claiming the US can do it for.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dollared, no they left Chavez a country with huge natural resources at a time when the value of those natural resources are at record highs.  I am a bit surprised you got so offended at the comparison with the USSR given you seem to think Cuba is a model to be emulated.</p>
<p>The COO joined Facebook in 2008 some 4 or 5 years after it started &#8211; which once upon a time would have been considered a startup, especially given it&#8217;s relatively low income in those days.  I only picked her because of your claim no one would ever leave their safe jobs at Google or Cisco for these riskier jobs.  Oh and what &#8220;global investment bank&#8221; invested 500m prior to her joining?</p>
<p>As for 500bn USD, the UK spends over 3,000USD per person on the NHS which would come to around double what you are claiming the US can do it for.</p>
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		<title>By: nyet</title>
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		<dc:creator>nyet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Jan 2011 04:21:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dollared - I have done Silicon Valley start ups and I couldn&#039;t agree more. You are absolutely correct. In this country we worship individualism in a way that is so emotional and stupid, it ends up undercutting entrepreneurship. We&#039;re not allowed to have the benefit of a social welfare state, so we end up being chained to corporate jobs. How &#039;individualist&#039; is that. 

Going out on your own is high risk. A former boss of mine, who had the highest score in the country on the computer science GRE the year he took it, was one of the first 20 hires at a major tech company. He went out on his own, lost his money on a startup, got cancer (in his 30&#039;s), had no insurance, went a million dollars in debt, then committed suicide. He could not face going bankrupt. In Norway he&#039;d probably be a serial startup founder. Not dead. What a stupid system.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dollared &#8211; I have done Silicon Valley start ups and I couldn&#8217;t agree more. You are absolutely correct. In this country we worship individualism in a way that is so emotional and stupid, it ends up undercutting entrepreneurship. We&#8217;re not allowed to have the benefit of a social welfare state, so we end up being chained to corporate jobs. How &#8216;individualist&#8217; is that. </p>
<p>Going out on your own is high risk. A former boss of mine, who had the highest score in the country on the computer science GRE the year he took it, was one of the first 20 hires at a major tech company. He went out on his own, lost his money on a startup, got cancer (in his 30&#8242;s), had no insurance, went a million dollars in debt, then committed suicide. He could not face going bankrupt. In Norway he&#8217;d probably be a serial startup founder. Not dead. What a stupid system.</p>
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