Comments on: The hermetic and arrogant New York Times http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2011/05/08/the-hermetic-and-arrogant-new-york-times/ A slice of lime in the soda Sun, 26 Oct 2014 19:05:02 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.5 By: best deals http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2011/05/08/the-hermetic-and-arrogant-new-york-times/comment-page-1/#comment-55349 Fri, 17 Oct 2014 21:18:44 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/?p=8167#comment-55349 This is certainly exceedingly real period as raised inside web blog. Admire preaching about close to.

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By: bigyaz http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2011/05/08/the-hermetic-and-arrogant-new-york-times/comment-page-1/#comment-26757 Wed, 18 May 2011 22:38:18 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/?p=8167#comment-26757 And the Pulitzer Prize for retweeting goes to…

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By: arfy6 http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2011/05/08/the-hermetic-and-arrogant-new-york-times/comment-page-1/#comment-26473 Thu, 12 May 2011 00:02:15 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/?p=8167#comment-26473 You evidently are not aware that Arthur Brisbane is considered to be a joke in the newsroom. He’s regarded as the 3rd worst of the public editors, worse only than that nitwit Barney Calame.

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By: HalHorvath http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2011/05/08/the-hermetic-and-arrogant-new-york-times/comment-page-1/#comment-26414 Tue, 10 May 2011 02:36:57 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/?p=8167#comment-26414 Believe it or not, there are many tens of millions of us out here that read articles and blogs and do not follow any tweets, zero — that much I can surmise, just from various social circles and talking with people. The open question is what is the rough percentage of people that follow news daily and also follow zero tweets.

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By: hbobrien http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2011/05/08/the-hermetic-and-arrogant-new-york-times/comment-page-1/#comment-26406 Mon, 09 May 2011 21:06:57 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/?p=8167#comment-26406 @BxF: “(A)re you saying that “jealous” can’t be used to describe someone who’s feeling envy?”

It can, but not about the same topic/item/possession/what-have-you.

Jealousy is the desire to protect a possession from being used (or owned) by others.

Envy is the desire to have what someone else has.

Somewhere the two got conflated — indeed, “envy” has almost fallen off the mental map in usage. It’s almost as bad as people who think “loan” is a verb (it’s a noun — the verb is “lend”).

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By: alexSch http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2011/05/08/the-hermetic-and-arrogant-new-york-times/comment-page-1/#comment-26404 Mon, 09 May 2011 18:31:37 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/?p=8167#comment-26404 felix, you’re right that the NYT (and many other outlets), don’t see certain tweets from their reporters as part of the paper’s official “work.” but you’re ignoring the other, positive side of the coin: if stelter’s and other influencers’ tweets were subject to the NYT editorial process gauntlet, the news never would’ve gotten out when it did.

it’s good for them to have their official story process, and it’s also good for an unofficial, grey area news ecosystem to exist. they’re not mutually exclusive (tho i do agree that the ombudsman’s article was totally delusional and, really, unnecessary).

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By: ChrisMaresca http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2011/05/08/the-hermetic-and-arrogant-new-york-times/comment-page-1/#comment-26403 Mon, 09 May 2011 18:26:21 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/?p=8167#comment-26403 @ariznem

Perhaps you missed it, I’ll link to it for you:http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmo n/2011/05/06/where-the-public-turns-for- real-time-news/

Fact, NYT is not even in the top of 5 news sources online. Even Google news gets more traction and Yahoo gets 7x more news traffic – so much that the NYT is not even close to being relevant to the top sites.

The NYT is on a downwards spiral to irrelevance, most people under 40 never even look at it. Felix is pointing out that resting on your legacy is part of the problem.

Oh yeah, and the Pulitzer Prize has SO much credibility – cf. Janet Cook.

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By: mrtoads http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2011/05/08/the-hermetic-and-arrogant-new-york-times/comment-page-1/#comment-26393 Mon, 09 May 2011 13:42:49 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/?p=8167#comment-26393 but – the NYT has always been hermetic and arrogant. A little while back I was reading Benchley’s old New Yorker columns of news criticism. They NYT then sounds much like the NYT now. However, considering that the financial world has resurrected the 1920s, why not the press-criticism world as well?

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