Comments on: Ben Stein Watch, DSK edition http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2011/05/17/ben-stein-watch-dsk-edition/ A slice of lime in the soda Sun, 26 Oct 2014 19:05:02 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.5 By: BrettTonaille http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2011/05/17/ben-stein-watch-dsk-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-27092 Wed, 25 May 2011 17:19:33 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/?p=8283#comment-27092 I’m amazed how many of even the people criticizing Stein have overlooked these two Neanderthal statements:

“The prosecutors say that Mr. Strauss-Kahn “forced” the complainant to have oral and other sex with him. How? Did he have a gun? Did he have a knife?”

“if he was so intimidating, why did she immediately feel un-intimidated enough to alert the authorities as to her story?”

Has this prominent journalist read ANYTHING about rape in the last few decades?

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By: hste http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2011/05/17/ben-stein-watch-dsk-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-27010 Mon, 23 May 2011 14:21:02 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/?p=8283#comment-27010 1. There is no excuse for rape for someone guilty of it.
2. In the USA, a person is innocent until proven guilty. All those who have condemmed a person before all the facts are supplied are guilty of cruel crime against a possibly innocent man. Whatever the past actions of this man (legal or illegal) does not say that here and now he is guilty. If guilty of illegal doings previously, then a pattern is there but still he needs to have a fair trial of innocent until proven guilty for this crime. The man has been condemmed by many of the readers of this article. Just because rape is a hideous crime, the accused man may be innocent, as seen often enough in DNA proving a man innocent of rape. Let’s have a fair trial. It may come down to ‘he said, she said’ in which case a jury will have to determine the conclusion.
3. I must admit that there is much I do not understand in the information about the attack. If a maid enters a room and a guests appears, naked or not, male or female, the first thing the maid does is make to the door and excuse herself for entering an occupied room. If he first had her on the bed and she resisted, why go to the ‘extra troube’ of bringing her into the bathroom? There are just too many questions and unknown answers.
4. The French are flirtatous people, maybe even more willing to dare a ‘pick up’ but it does not mean rape. That he flirts with women does not make DSK a rapist. Having unwanted sex would make him a rapist. So let’s get the facts before we condem the man.

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By: rolandthau http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2011/05/17/ben-stein-watch-dsk-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-26857 Fri, 20 May 2011 22:12:22 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/?p=8283#comment-26857 Mr. Stein,

Because your above contribution is not funny at all and does not qualify as parody, I must conclude that you are an idiot incapable of sound reasoning.

Since you are a lawyer, I hope that, for your clients’ sake, you have long ago stopped practicing law and will never return to it.

Kindly advise if you are still an active member of the bar and in which jurisdiction you were admitted and, as my solemn civic duty, I will promptly move your disbarment.
Roland Thau

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By: R.a.v.e.n http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2011/05/17/ben-stein-watch-dsk-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-26785 Thu, 19 May 2011 12:40:21 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/?p=8283#comment-26785 CDN_Rebel: “I don’t see why they had to immediately go after him before making a case first.”

DSK was on a plane about to take off for a trans-Atlantic flight (to France). If the police hadn’t arrested him right then, they wouldn’t have had the opportunity later.

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By: gt7185 http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2011/05/17/ben-stein-watch-dsk-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-26777 Thu, 19 May 2011 06:47:07 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/?p=8283#comment-26777 You know you’re in trouble when a close friend of yours, who happens to be a graduate of Yale Law School, no less, is only able to defend your innocence by stating that economists don’t commit rape.

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By: GlindatheGood http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2011/05/17/ben-stein-watch-dsk-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-26765 Thu, 19 May 2011 00:57:18 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/?p=8283#comment-26765 I love the rare news site where 90%+ of the comments are better than the actual written article.

It speaks well of both the news site and its followers!

Kuddos, gents and ladies! And “broads” since I don’t feel I appropriately fit into either of those two honorifics but love the “broad” honorific like Molly Ivans did.

This might be the best comment thread I’ve seen in months!

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By: abstract668 http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2011/05/17/ben-stein-watch-dsk-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-26725 Wed, 18 May 2011 16:14:32 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/?p=8283#comment-26725 Ben Stein is well known around Los Angeles for sexually inappropriate behavior. No surprise that he is taking this position.

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By: Observer-X http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2011/05/17/ben-stein-watch-dsk-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-26723 Wed, 18 May 2011 16:07:57 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/?p=8283#comment-26723 There is a whole of nonsense surrounding this story. And unfortunately the debate is falling back into cartoon fashion. I do believe that there are some questions about the allegations truth as a practical matter. However, this is not to say that they are necessarily false. On the other hand, innocence until proven guilty appears to be a difficult discipline for all sides of the political spectrum.

Here is some thoughts about this case. 1: Roman Polanski is probably somewhat to blame for how he being treated now, whether justified or not. 2: Don’t forget that the police have a local case for rape much in the news. I doubt they want to be seen as being “soft” on rape accusations right now, again– doesn’t mean they don’t have a good case. 3: We don’t have much sympathy for foreigners accused of crimes in US regardless of nationality, but how does this square with our feelings about the reverse– I distinctly got the impression that our media was a lot more sympathetic to the accused in that Italian murder case involving a young American women of recent trial history. Plus, he’s French & representing European banking(albeit as IMF chief) and that automatically goes into sympathy deficit.

There is no good outcome of this, so much the poorer are we. Still, if he is guilty by US laws of a crime, it doesn’t matter. Conversely, let’s not rush to judgement on either side.

Let’s all remember the tragedy of the Duke Lacrosse case. And to that end, I hope the authorities are as duly circumspect about protecting the rights of the accused and the alleged victim alike.

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By: Boyinthedrain http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2011/05/17/ben-stein-watch-dsk-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-26720 Wed, 18 May 2011 16:03:30 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/?p=8283#comment-26720 Please tell me this is an Onion article

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By: norchi http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2011/05/17/ben-stein-watch-dsk-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-26717 Wed, 18 May 2011 15:29:19 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/?p=8283#comment-26717 It’s too bad you had to ruin an otherwise good post with this bit of context-crime worthy of Breitbart:

>This is a case about the hatred of the have-nots for the >haves, and that’s what it’s all about.

Read the original – this comment is clearly about the hoopla over the $3000/night hotel room, not the sex assault charges. (Still a pretty crazy way for Stein to phrase it, though…)

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