Comments on: The Gingriches and Tiffany: When a loan becomes lobbying http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2011/05/25/the-gingriches-and-tiffany-when-a-loan-becomes-lobbying/ A slice of lime in the soda Sun, 26 Oct 2014 19:05:02 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.5 By: macthefloorguy http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2011/05/25/the-gingriches-and-tiffany-when-a-loan-becomes-lobbying/comment-page-1/#comment-27184 Tue, 31 May 2011 19:40:19 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/?p=8406#comment-27184 Advice to the GOP, better dig up Reagan

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By: macthefloorguy http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2011/05/25/the-gingriches-and-tiffany-when-a-loan-becomes-lobbying/comment-page-1/#comment-27183 Tue, 31 May 2011 19:40:15 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/?p=8406#comment-27183 Advice to the GOP, better dig up Reagan

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By: macthefloorguy http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2011/05/25/the-gingriches-and-tiffany-when-a-loan-becomes-lobbying/comment-page-1/#comment-27182 Tue, 31 May 2011 19:38:10 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/?p=8406#comment-27182 Anybody else sick of this crap? Public Campaign Financing is our best hope. Get rid of every politician who is in the pocket of some lobby, and get people to run for office who weren’t born with a silver spoon in thier mouth, or who aren’t corrupted by unlimited corporate “contributions.” Balancing the budget would be much easier when you aren’t obligated to make sure that Exxon makes $50 billion this year. It’s too bad that they will destroy the economy by charging 50 times the lifting cost for a barrel of oil, and too bad that we are sending $1 billion in America’s wealth to OPEC EVERY DAY. aLSO, WE NEED TO ELIMINATE THE $106,000 INCOME CAP on Social Security contributions. When a guy making $106,000 contributes $6,800 per year, and a CEO who makes $50 million contributes the same $6,800, something is very wrong. WE could fund social security and medicare forever without cutting off poor kids school lunches by removing this cap, and most likely cut the contribution rate for EVERY AMERICAN to less than 4 percent. This is a prime example of how the Kings of Welfare often get off scott free,while the rest of us are expected to sacrifice so they can avoid paying ANY TAXES.

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By: NadPauKucGraMcK http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2011/05/25/the-gingriches-and-tiffany-when-a-loan-becomes-lobbying/comment-page-1/#comment-27142 Fri, 27 May 2011 00:25:13 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/?p=8406#comment-27142 over and over and over
Newt and Callista
Callista and Newt
Newt and Callista
over and over and over

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By: hsvkitty http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2011/05/25/the-gingriches-and-tiffany-when-a-loan-becomes-lobbying/comment-page-1/#comment-27137 Thu, 26 May 2011 22:14:01 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/?p=8406#comment-27137 And just in case people have short memories or are young and didn’t know, and fluff off the Tiffany’s non event the ethics of the man do not just play a part at home; the lack of character is evident in his politics.

His lily white campaign was begun after he began to control his own media campaign for Repugnant republicans like himself (he is a one man propaganda machine) and mudslinging videos against democrats. When the press maligns him, he fights back… dirty because his past holds some real dirt:

http://www.esquire.com/features/newt-gin grich-0910

http://motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2011/0 5/newt-gingrich-and-hospital-room

http://motherjones.com/politics/1984/11/ newt-gingrich-shining-knight-post-reagan -right

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By: hsvkitty http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2011/05/25/the-gingriches-and-tiffany-when-a-loan-becomes-lobbying/comment-page-1/#comment-27133 Thu, 26 May 2011 18:35:08 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/?p=8406#comment-27133 I have read the updates now.

The disclosure by Cassidy & Associates also lists former Gingrich legislative assistant Christy Evans as a lobbyist for the organization. I guess that kind of revolving door is normal there… so it is ok that the connection exists. (When our country’s Government started to look like the mob ran it we vocalized our contempt for being Governed like that… and the scandal ended. That is what ethic committees are for)

I looked at the list of resources that AG is responsible for and mining is Natural resources. Although water use and land use overlap, it is unlikely the committees overlapped on mining, so it is less likely that portion is still a story.

I think if the man is rich he is entitled to spend it as he wishes, but he has filed that he has 500k racked up in unpaid bills at a jewellery store. How can that not be an issue for a man running on “frugality” and “paying his bills” kinda guy… like you and me…

A man running on a family values platform who leaves 2 wives who have MS and Cancer and marries a third which he has to “keep” in jewels is not a man of integrity who can be trusted … but is that merely the female in me talking that I can’t pat him on the back and call it bravado?

I would never vote for him for his constant flip flopping, his partisan politics, his lack of integrity and lies, his blaming love of country for his misdeeds, and this would merely be insurance…. if I lived in your country that is. After watching the likes of Trump, Palin et al being considered contenders for President, I suppose he is still a contender…

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By: hsvkitty http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2011/05/25/the-gingriches-and-tiffany-when-a-loan-becomes-lobbying/comment-page-1/#comment-27130 Thu, 26 May 2011 17:49:39 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/?p=8406#comment-27130 odwagerty, he has a 500k running tab at Tiffany’s with no interest. YOU have a 500k no interest account at Lowes? Cool… is Lowes lobbying for something which you have an interest in? Cool, and what are those?

Are you also running on a campaign which says you are “frugal” and “pay the bills? Running a 500k tab at Tiffany’s may not be what the taxpayers consider frugal. Do you?

So given the update, he or she has racked up 500k of purchases this year alone? Regardless of your absolutely incredibly close analogy *cough* he is a public figure and so it is being scrutinized. It isn’t that he “spends” the money there… it is the interest free loan and the idea that there may be other “incentives” which are offered.

Felix is correct that here must be official rules about accepting interest-free loans from companies lobbying your committee.

Tiffany’s Lobby “efforts” may not all be disclosed, in other words…(see URL below)

http://tinyurl.com/3pgkwbb

This exactly the type of off books lobbying efforts which are not disclosed, for obvious reasons, and why gifts and freebies are not to be accepted lest they be thought to be bribes or kickbacks. (whether they are or not) Your Lowes account is the same?

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By: odwagerty http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2011/05/25/the-gingriches-and-tiffany-when-a-loan-becomes-lobbying/comment-page-1/#comment-27126 Thu, 26 May 2011 15:58:33 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/?p=8406#comment-27126 I have a short-term interest free Lowes account, and have no lobbying interest. How is this any different?

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By: spectre855 http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2011/05/25/the-gingriches-and-tiffany-when-a-loan-becomes-lobbying/comment-page-1/#comment-27125 Thu, 26 May 2011 15:57:08 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/?p=8406#comment-27125 I personally think that the “anybody else” part of the equation is relevant. If anybody else = everybody else, as in literally anyone can get a no interest loan, then that would sway my opinion. I can’t see how that would be different than him paying cash for said jewelry. I mean would we feel the same way if he took out a no interest loan for a lawnmower at Sears (assuming Sears was also lobbying him at the time)? I can’t say that I’d care but that’s just me.

Now if anybody else = any kind of exclusive group of clients, then there is preferential treatment involved and I would agree that this is ethically wrong.

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By: FelixSalmon http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2011/05/25/the-gingriches-and-tiffany-when-a-loan-becomes-lobbying/comment-page-1/#comment-27123 Thu, 26 May 2011 15:39:28 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/?p=8406#comment-27123 @random_trader, I did a straw poll last night, and the general consensus was that a Congressional staffer should definitely NOT accept a six-figure interest-free loan from a company lobbying her committee, even if that loan was available to anybody else. I’m inclined to agree.

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