Comments on: Did the NYT hack Fabrice Tourre’s email? http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2011/06/01/did-the-nyt-hack-fabrice-tourres-email/ A slice of lime in the soda Sun, 26 Oct 2014 19:05:02 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.5 By: MBS83 http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2011/06/01/did-the-nyt-hack-fabrice-tourres-email/comment-page-1/#comment-27258 Thu, 02 Jun 2011 13:58:13 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/?p=8481#comment-27258 Even more interesting than what this all says about the Times is what is illustrates about the shortcomings of blogs: Idle speculation (emphasis on “idle,” as in “not bothering to do the work of reporting”) spawns rumors that beget more idle speculation that beget more rumors. Asking questions is easy. Getting the right answers is hard.

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By: PhilPerspective http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2011/06/01/did-the-nyt-hack-fabrice-tourres-email/comment-page-1/#comment-27256 Thu, 02 Jun 2011 05:31:19 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/?p=8481#comment-27256 DCos:
This still doesn’t explain away why emails were still going to the old computer. And why would Tourre send work emails to a personal computer. There are still many unanswered questions.

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By: DCos http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2011/06/01/did-the-nyt-hack-fabrice-tourres-email/comment-page-1/#comment-27255 Thu, 02 Jun 2011 03:55:40 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/?p=8481#comment-27255 Maybe the laptop was stolen… It is possible some petty thief thought they could unload it easily but they realized it had a name on it. The guy in the John Cook link says it is Tourre’s computer but NYT insists that it isn’t. Either way, it is hugely unethical. Wouldn’t you just try and contact Tourre’s lawyers (whom you could find via a quick Google search on your free laptop) and let them know you have his emails instead of giving someone’s private emails to a reporter? If all of this is true (I am skeptical) then Tourre may be the world’s unluckiest email user.

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By: guanix http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2011/06/01/did-the-nyt-hack-fabrice-tourres-email/comment-page-1/#comment-27250 Thu, 02 Jun 2011 01:49:09 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/?p=8481#comment-27250 mwolfe: Maybe they initially got them from another source, but used the computer to confirm that the emails were genuine?

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By: mwolfe http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2011/06/01/did-the-nyt-hack-fabrice-tourres-email/comment-page-1/#comment-27247 Thu, 02 Jun 2011 00:33:51 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/?p=8481#comment-27247 Update 5 makes no sense. How does the statement that none of the emails cited in the NYT story “came from Mr. Tourre’s email system on the computer” mean that they knew exactly what was on the computer. Can’t that statement merely mean that they came from an alternate source? It didn’t say “those emails were never accessible or on the computer”. Seems very accusatory.

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By: MaxKennerly http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2011/06/01/did-the-nyt-hack-fabrice-tourres-email/comment-page-1/#comment-27244 Wed, 01 Jun 2011 20:12:16 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/?p=8481#comment-27244 Felix’s “update” views on the SCA/hacking are correct. If Cohen/Koan just dumped emails on the NYTimes, they have nothing to worry about. If, instead, the NYTimes was at any point monitoring his email — or, really, anyone’s email — then they were intentionally accessing an electronic communication service without authorization. It is irrelevant to the SCA if they published the emails or not.

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By: Curmudgeon http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2011/06/01/did-the-nyt-hack-fabrice-tourres-email/comment-page-1/#comment-27243 Wed, 01 Jun 2011 19:37:07 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/?p=8481#comment-27243 It’s certainly possible to autoforward emails to any mail account, on a computer without security. You’ll even get company emails automatically sent to a smartphone, and not need a password. If either device is lost or stolen, you would have to change your email account password on the mail server, something that might not occur to everyone.

However, if I were given a laptop with software from any source, the first thing I would do is delete any existing accounts in the email client, to make room for my own accounts. In any case, knowingly receiving email addressed to others, even unintentionally, can be a crime.

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By: hsvkitty http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2011/06/01/did-the-nyt-hack-fabrice-tourres-email/comment-page-1/#comment-27241 Wed, 01 Jun 2011 19:20:17 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/?p=8481#comment-27241 First thing my huge company did was issue laptops to each department. Second thing they did was add security and match each one to an owner for inventory… oops. They did manage to match up quite a few… surprisingly, as many were honest and a few Dept heads did their own inventory.

Who said this was a work laptop? The newer emails are between he and lawyers no? The older condemning ones were in the releases dumped on SEC, no?

Also, one more thing. If you read Tourre’s emails, he is a loud mouthed narcissistic blowhard who said some pretty odd and damning things in emails. Does he sound like the kind of guy who was interested in security?

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By: marcelliott http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2011/06/01/did-the-nyt-hack-fabrice-tourres-email/comment-page-1/#comment-27237 Wed, 01 Jun 2011 17:55:55 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/?p=8481#comment-27237 Everything about this story is sketchy-from GS letting a key employee throw out a work laptop without “wiping it” to the claim the laptop kept getting emails. But being a lawyer I know that the legal issue is whether Tourre had aa “reasonable expectation of privacy” in his emails. The argument would be that if he threw his laptop in the trash, he no longer expected it to be private. I hate to think of the Times making up a cover story but you know they lawyered up and this is a lawyer’s defense. But the underlying facts are so unworthy of belief that you have to wonder.

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By: Christofurio http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2011/06/01/did-the-nyt-hack-fabrice-tourres-email/comment-page-1/#comment-27235 Wed, 01 Jun 2011 16:37:50 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/?p=8481#comment-27235 “These legal replies, which are not public, were provided to The New York Times by Nancy Cohen, an artist and filmmaker in New York also known as Nancy Koan,”

Interesting duality. Covering opposite ends of the continent of Asia, so to speak.

(Not that there’s anything wrong with that….)

“What is the sound of one hand clapping?”

“Oh, gee, what a profound Cohen!”

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