Comments on: Adventures with e-books, Kindle single edition http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2011/09/13/adventures-with-e-books-kindle-single-edition/ A slice of lime in the soda Sun, 26 Oct 2014 19:05:02 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.5 By: traducere romana daneza http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2011/09/13/adventures-with-e-books-kindle-single-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-53464 Mon, 29 Sep 2014 13:55:38 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/?p=9872#comment-53464 Louis Vuitton Speedy 35FOLouis Vuitton OutletDOLouis Vuitton PursesETLouis Vuitton BagsBOLouis Vuitton Outlet OnlineFPLouis Vuitton OutletDTLouis Vuitton BagsASLouis Vuitton Outlet OnlineGPLouis Vuitton HandbagsDQLouis Vuitton OutletDOMichael Kors OutletGTMichael Kors Outlet OnlineFRMichael Kors BagEPMichael Kors Handbags OutletAUMichael Kors CouponGTMichael Kors BagsEOMichael Kors Outlet StoreDQMichael Kors BagsCQMichael Kors Outlet StoreCUMichael Kors BagsARbabyliss pro nano titaniumGTBabyliss ProEQbabyliss hair dryerAQBabyliss Pro Nano TitaniumBPBabyliss ProEOBabylissATBabyliss ProFPbabyliss miracurlEUbabyliss flat ironEQBabyliss Flat IronAOKate Spade HandbagsEQKate Spade BagsFTKate Spade OutletCRKate Spade PursesAUKate Spade HandbagsCTKate Spade New YorkGUKate Spade OutletCTKate Spade OutletFUKate Spade OutletBPKate Spade saleCQOakley OutletCTCheap Oakley SunglassesBSOakley Prescription SunglassesCSOakley SunglassesCTOakley Sunglasses CheapAOOakley SunglassesCSCheap Oakley SunglassesBRCheap OakleysBTOakley OutletAOCheap Oakley SunglassesGOJordan 11 Space JamDRSpace Jam 11sBRSpace Jam Low 11sGUJordan Retro 11DOSpace Jam 11sATSpace Jam Low 11sFOSpace Jam Low 11sAOJordan 11 Low Space JamGPJordan Retro 11ESJordan 11 Low Space JamFTKate Spade HandbagsERKate Spade OutletFSKate Spade New YorkBTkate spade pursesASKate Spade New YorkEOKate Spade OutletCPKate Spade Outlet OnlineCOKate Spade New YorkASKate Spade saleFPKate Spade Diaper BagERoakley outletBPoakley sunglasses cheapCQcheap oakley sunglassesFPoakley sunglasses cheapAOoakley sunglasses cheapCToakley outletDPoakley outletDUoakley outletFUcheap oakley sunglassesEPoakley outletDTray ban wayfarerFUcheap ray ban sunglassesDTray ban sunglassesGUray ban sunglassesDRray ban sunglasses saleFOray ban sunglasses saleGTray ban outletFTray ban sunglasses saleATcheap ray bansEOray ban sunglassesCOray ban sunglasses saleAScheap ray ban sunglassesFUray ban sunglassesCUray ban sunglasses saleDOray ban sunglasses saleFQray ban prescription sunglassesAOray ban sunglassesBPJordan Retro 9 BaronsDOJordan Retro 9 BaronsBOJordan Retro 9 BaronsBRBarons 9sBSJordan Retro 9 BaronsETJordan Retro 9 BaronsDOBarons 9sCPJordan 9 BaronsBTJordan Barons 9sBPJordan 9 Barons 2014CRSac a main Michael KorsFTSac Michael KorsCPMichael Kors FranceCQSac Michael KorsDQMichael Kors SacARSac Michael KorsERMichael Kors SacGSMichael Kors SacFS

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By: David239 http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2011/09/13/adventures-with-e-books-kindle-single-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-30920 Thu, 15 Sep 2011 12:19:18 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/?p=9872#comment-30920 Well, yes, those are the Amazon costs. The point of this brave new paperless digital world was supposed to be that the end user wouldn’t have to pay to kill the trees. So I’d like to not pay for the stuff I’m no longer buying, thank you.

You say “If you want Kindle format books…” Well, if they cost more than the paper version, then I really don’t want them and won’t be buying them.

I doubt that it’s going to be just me: digital books have disadvantages, too: formatting infelicities, photos and color charts look terrible (although other readers do better), getting around is more awkward. So I’d think that people for whom the advantages aren’t overwhelming (e.g. travelling light with lots of reading) will be passing as well.

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By: Moopheus http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2011/09/13/adventures-with-e-books-kindle-single-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-30883 Wed, 14 Sep 2011 18:07:30 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/?p=9872#comment-30883 David–the costs you describe are mainly the ones borne by Amazon, not the publisher. And I think what you want is that when Amazon saves costs, they pass those savings on to the customer, rather than keep them for themselves. But what is their incentive? If you want Kindle format books, you have to buy from them.

But I agree that it doesn’t make sense for the ebook to cost more. It may be just a quirk of the publisher’s discount scheme for academic titles. Which is to say, it’s sold to Amazon as a short-discount book, and Amazon applies different markup to the ebook.

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By: David239 http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2011/09/13/adventures-with-e-books-kindle-single-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-30875 Wed, 14 Sep 2011 15:59:27 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/?p=9872#comment-30875 I’m not asking to save 50%, I’d be perfectly happy saving 20%. The savings in printing, warehousing, packing and labelling, and shipping (which is often free if you don’t live in Japan) have to be something. And they don’t put a lot of effort into the Kindle editions, so there aren’t major costs there. Producing and delivering a physical object is really hard and when I click to buy a Kindle edition, it’s a way simpler interaction thany buying a physical book, so programming costs aren’t gross.

Whatever, it’s insane that the Kindle version is ever more expensive than the paperback. Insane.

(It crosses my mind that I don’t look at best sellers, so my sampling is horribly skewed towards academicy things; science, poli-sci, international relations.)

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By: guanix http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2011/09/13/adventures-with-e-books-kindle-single-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-30873 Wed, 14 Sep 2011 15:15:15 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/?p=9872#comment-30873 The PDF version of the Gothamist book is atrociously typeset.

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By: Moopheus http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2011/09/13/adventures-with-e-books-kindle-single-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-30871 Wed, 14 Sep 2011 14:54:52 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/?p=9872#comment-30871 “Then add in the fact that e-books are much less expensive for publishers to produce.”

Hmmm…not so much. The largest cost saved, printing, normally accounts for about 5-10 percent of the cover price of a book. Warehousing and distribution are also significant costs. Of course, the retailer, Amazon or whoever, still wants their margin. Author royalties? For physical books, this is 5-15 percent of the cover price (depending on format); ebook royalties usually have a different structure.

The book still has cover art? Somebody has to do that. Good art and design is not cheap. Editing? Copyediting, proofreading? How much do you like poorly written, disorganized writing with typos? Admittedly, even in traditional publishing these functions are getting squeezed (note Felix’s comment: “He’s not a professional writer, and the story is a bit clunky at first, but he becomes very fluent during the crucial central part of the book”–suggests that someone spent a little effort polishing up part of it, but let the rest go).

Of course there are promotional costs, if you want someone to actually know about the book. Apple featured the book? All right, I am not privy to Apple’s arrangement with the publisher, but my guess is that that didn’t come for free. When you go into a bookstore and see a book prominently displayed in a visible location–the publisher has paid for that.

Sure, some ebooks will be cheap, and some should be cheaper than their paper equivalent. And a $3 price point may actually be pretty fair for what amounts to a lengthy magazine article. But for most books it won’t actually support professional publishing. Self-published slush material, maybe, but if you want anything decent, it’s still going to cost money.

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By: Curmudgeon http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2011/09/13/adventures-with-e-books-kindle-single-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-30867 Wed, 14 Sep 2011 14:24:43 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/?p=9872#comment-30867 James Patterson offers free samples that are usually about 25-30 percent of the book, giving readers ample opportunity to decide whether to buy the rest. Another thriller author I read authored a free e-book short story as a lead-in to his latest novel. Both are great marketing tools that simply would not be possible in the print era.

Yes, I would buy low-cost shorter works, primarily because the purchase and delivery process is so seamless.

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By: hansrudolf http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2011/09/13/adventures-with-e-books-kindle-single-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-30866 Wed, 14 Sep 2011 14:17:40 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/?p=9872#comment-30866 That’s how it sells in Italy”Kindle Price: $4.59 includes VAT & free international wireless delivery via Amazon Whispernet” A VAT joke.

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By: Curmudgeon http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2011/09/13/adventures-with-e-books-kindle-single-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-30865 Wed, 14 Sep 2011 13:25:32 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/?p=9872#comment-30865 Not willing to deal with the proprietary Kindle format, I have a Nook (although I understand that recently Kindle has enabled library lending of its format, something Nook has had since its inception). So your pushing Kindle publishing does many of us no good, and it’s not at all clear that Kindle has the superior format.

Another nice byproduct of the Nook format is that it has enabled sites like the Gutenberg Project (http://wp.me/pJhAL-7u) to offer free versions of out-of-print books, completely legally. Thanks to this, my reading habits now include works that I never would have read otherwise.

It seems that just about every mention of e-reading is accompanied by complaints about pricing. Most of the e-books I buy are anywhere from $1 (paperback) to $10 (hardcover) less than equivalent print books. However, price should never have been part of the compelling reason for e-readers. Instead, it’s really about changing reading habits, and carrying an entire library with you.

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By: TFF http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2011/09/13/adventures-with-e-books-kindle-single-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-30864 Wed, 14 Sep 2011 10:51:49 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/?p=9872#comment-30864 I’m guessing that Amazon demands higher profit margins on their e-books than on their physical books. This eats up any potential cost savings from the printing.

Printing a standard textbook perhaps costs $10? (I have bought similarly sized books new at that price.) It shouldn’t be that much cheaper in the electronic version.

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