Comments on: Arnold Schwarzenegger, bike salmon http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2011/10/02/arnold-schwarzenegger-bike-salmon/ A slice of lime in the soda Sun, 26 Oct 2014 19:05:02 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.5 By: DavidHuntsman http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2011/10/02/arnold-schwarzenegger-bike-salmon/comment-page-1/#comment-31536 Wed, 05 Oct 2011 22:52:29 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/?p=10284#comment-31536 Here’s motorists attending to traffic laws and upholding the basic tenets of civility:

http://youtu.be/eF45QnZWo48

and:

http://youtu.be/qNyYnlyxnlY

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By: haltoc http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2011/10/02/arnold-schwarzenegger-bike-salmon/comment-page-1/#comment-31526 Wed, 05 Oct 2011 17:33:30 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/?p=10284#comment-31526 quit picking on my favorite governor/actor…i love his boldness…try it sometime instead of whinning

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By: Goonie1976 http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2011/10/02/arnold-schwarzenegger-bike-salmon/comment-page-1/#comment-31419 Mon, 03 Oct 2011 21:06:10 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/?p=10284#comment-31419 Felix, it sounds like you need an introduction to the weird and wonderful world of recreational bike subcultures:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vn29DvMIT u4

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By: temple64 http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2011/10/02/arnold-schwarzenegger-bike-salmon/comment-page-1/#comment-31418 Mon, 03 Oct 2011 20:43:50 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/?p=10284#comment-31418 When I lived in Boston, I ran red lights on my bike all the time. I basically acted like all the pedestrians there. But I wouldn’t take the right of way from anyone – I would stop for that. My theory was that people are lost in Boston quite often and as soon as the light turns green, they change their mind and make a turn they weren’t signalling for, usually by hitting the gas hard and yanking the wheel over in a sort of panic. This was dangerous for a cyclist. So I went through intersections whenever they were clear, regardless of what the light was. Others, of course, were more reckless. I don’t condone that, but I also don’t make a big deal out of pedestrians or cyclists going against a light (or through a stop sign) as long as it’s clear, go for it.

Having too much respect for a red light reminds me of a Sunday morning I spent in Hamburg (I was just walking around killing time between trains). There was a tiny street (one lane, no shoulder), maybe 10 feet across. The light was against the pedestrians, but you could see 100 yards in any direction. There were no cars coming, you could get across the street in about 4 steps. But most people waited for the light. Why? It is not actually performing any impressive safety function when there are no cars on the road on a Sunday morning! Trust yourselves to make it 10 feet safely on your own. (I know, there are societal norms and that’s what they were really respecting. That was one morning 22 years ago. I’ve been back to Germany and seen more reasonable pedestrian behavior.)

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By: ibnozn http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2011/10/02/arnold-schwarzenegger-bike-salmon/comment-page-1/#comment-31411 Mon, 03 Oct 2011 17:54:16 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/?p=10284#comment-31411 In other words, you could tag him with a car and get away with it?
Oops! He came out of nowhere!
If you did it right you could probably sue and make a few $$$ too!
How awesome is that?

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By: estherc http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2011/10/02/arnold-schwarzenegger-bike-salmon/comment-page-1/#comment-31408 Mon, 03 Oct 2011 17:40:47 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/?p=10284#comment-31408 If Arnold rides a bike like this, just be glad he’s on a bike and not in his hummer. I’m sure he drives his hummer just as inconsiderately. In that he’ll be much more likely to do damage to others.

My question to the author though is why would you hate other cyclists for this one cyclists behavior? Each cyclist should be judged for their own actions, just like anyone. I ride a bike, obey the law, share the road. I don’t blame and hate every driver for the ones that try to right hook me.

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By: Komanoff http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2011/10/02/arnold-schwarzenegger-bike-salmon/comment-page-1/#comment-31404 Mon, 03 Oct 2011 16:00:49 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/?p=10284#comment-31404 Glad to see the reference to former NJ Gov. “Jon Corzine’s 91-mph seatbelt-free car crash” in 2007. But the most egregious aspect was that Corzine effectively initiated the crash by instructing his driver to use emergency lights to clear traffic — which led to the vehicle in Corzine’s path losing control as it tried to get out of Corzine’s way. See http://bit.ly/o8HRkI for details (search for “Rasinski”). Corzine’s bigger sin was to drive aggressively.

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By: DavidHuntsman http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2011/10/02/arnold-schwarzenegger-bike-salmon/comment-page-1/#comment-31387 Mon, 03 Oct 2011 02:46:09 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/?p=10284#comment-31387 Hey, it’s not just the Maserati drivers who behave like that. It’s most all drivers – from the first STOP sign they roll at the corner of their street in the morning to the last red light they run when crowding through an intersection on a left turn…

The difference between scofflaw cyclists and motorists is the former are a nuisance while the latter kill.

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By: dWj http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2011/10/02/arnold-schwarzenegger-bike-salmon/comment-page-1/#comment-31369 Sun, 02 Oct 2011 15:36:58 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/?p=10284#comment-31369 Yes! Pedestrians who take right-of-way from cars annoy me when I’m a pedestrian or a driver; cars who (e.g.) fail to yield to pedestrians with a walk light on a left turn annoy me whether I’m a pedestrian or a driver. It’s not the pedestrians, drivers, or cyclists who are annoying, it’s the people who think they’re above the rules that prevent us from crashing into each other or causing all transportation to grind to a halt.

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By: FifthDecade http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2011/10/02/arnold-schwarzenegger-bike-salmon/comment-page-1/#comment-31368 Sun, 02 Oct 2011 15:33:48 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/?p=10284#comment-31368 In Switzerland the law allows for cyclists (bikers ride motorbikes with engines) to travel up one way streets – they even have special lanes in them. But they still ride through stop signs, red lights, across zebra crossings when pedestrians are walking across, and swear at any motorist that dares question them.

When I am out cycling myself, I always stop when required to but get very frustrated behind other cyclists who are too lazy (or ignorant) to change down a gear or three when they start off from the red light and I have to try to squeeze past them without getting knocked by a car. I think the reason many don’t stop at lights is they are just too lazy to change down to get a fast getaway. That pisses car drivers off as well as any cyclists behind them.

One big problem cyclists have though is cars, lorrys, busses, vans cutting them up on roundabouts and many cyclists now wear headcams to capture these events on film in case they have an accident. Some of them are pretty hairy moments, and some cyclists are killed by these trucks turning left across the path of a cyclist.

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