Comments on: The social safety net is broken http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2011/11/08/the-social-safety-net-is-broken/ A slice of lime in the soda Sun, 26 Oct 2014 19:05:02 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.5 By: TFF http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2011/11/08/the-social-safety-net-is-broken/comment-page-1/#comment-32924 Thu, 10 Nov 2011 02:45:48 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/?p=10987#comment-32924 Can’t take credit for that, y2kurtus. Am lucky to have found a school that makes this recipe work!!! Might not believe it if I didn’t see it daily.

Now if only we can find the money to stay open. :) Serving the disadvantaged isn’t a terribly profitable industry.

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By: y2kurtus http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2011/11/08/the-social-safety-net-is-broken/comment-page-1/#comment-32919 Thu, 10 Nov 2011 00:57:04 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/?p=10987#comment-32919 I have only two requests TFF…

#1 move to my community.
#2 run for office!

…spot on as usual!

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By: TFF http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2011/11/08/the-social-safety-net-is-broken/comment-page-1/#comment-32892 Wed, 09 Nov 2011 14:17:36 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/?p=10987#comment-32892 You cannot cure poverty without education. Education in the skills necessary to compete in the job market today. (Unemployment among young college graduates is higher than normal, but unemployment among young adults without a degree is three times that.) Education in the culture of responsibility. Education in self-confidence and assertiveness, qualities that are in excess among our middle-class but in short supply among the less advantaged. Begin with the young and they will infect their communities with these values, enriching all.

Standardized testing, however, is not the answer. It only addresses academic skills (and only a narrow slice of academic skills), not the broader educational needs for culture change. At this point we need to step back and look at the larger picture, before we can again move forward.

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By: maynardGkeynes http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2011/11/08/the-social-safety-net-is-broken/comment-page-1/#comment-32891 Wed, 09 Nov 2011 13:12:12 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/?p=10987#comment-32891 @y2kurtus: well done! Without a proper diagnosis of the causes of poverty, which are now largely social and cultural, as opposed to a lack of government support, we will never ‘cure’ poverty.

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By: y2kurtus http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2011/11/08/the-social-safety-net-is-broken/comment-page-1/#comment-32887 Wed, 09 Nov 2011 03:15:48 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/?p=10987#comment-32887 “The social safety net is broken?”

In my state a parent with a minor child is automatically eligible for:

-Housing via section 8 (there is a wait list)
-Emergency health care
-Preventitive health care
-Food Assistance via the SNAP program
-Access to food banks for additional food items
-Free Cell phone with 250 anytime minutes monthly
-Heating assistance via LIHEAT
-Free child care while working or learning

I support all of those programs. A civilized society requires that the fortunate support the less fortunate. Out of the 120+ countries in the world our social safety net is stronger than roughly 100.

If you want to argue that our safety net should be further strengthened with the most wealthy footing the bill… I’m listening.

If you want to argue that those at the bottom of the income distribution in the U.S. do not have it better now than they have ever had in the 235 year history of the country… well then I’m inclined to disagree.

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By: MyLord http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2011/11/08/the-social-safety-net-is-broken/comment-page-1/#comment-32886 Wed, 09 Nov 2011 03:11:27 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/?p=10987#comment-32886 The more effective route would be to give everyone a base check and tax it back for those above that level, but too many think the poor must be starved to work.

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By: Curmudgeon http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2011/11/08/the-social-safety-net-is-broken/comment-page-1/#comment-32883 Wed, 09 Nov 2011 00:06:29 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/?p=10987#comment-32883 >>It’s true that the poverty rate for children has come down — but it’s still unconscionably high.

You’re doing it again, Felix. You ignore the trend, and make a value judgment. It may be a worthwhile value judgment, but it doesn’t justify the title of the post.

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By: mfw13 http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2011/11/08/the-social-safety-net-is-broken/comment-page-1/#comment-32882 Wed, 09 Nov 2011 00:04:33 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/?p=10987#comment-32882 One of the reasons may be that even if you work full-time (i.e. 40 hrs/week for 50 weeks a year) at the federal minimum wage ($7.25), your annual earnings ($14,500) still leave you significantly below the poverty line.

Always thought that there was something wrong with the fact that someone could work full-time and still be living in poverty. Maybe it’s time to link the minimum wage to the poverty line.

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By: majkmushrm http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2011/11/08/the-social-safety-net-is-broken/comment-page-1/#comment-32881 Tue, 08 Nov 2011 23:02:30 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/?p=10987#comment-32881 “Because if America really aspires to be the greatest country in the world, it can’t have 16.1% of its population living in poverty.”

Yup. That’s as clean a statement as you could ask for. But rather than talk about gov programs &etc, why not just peg the minimum wage at (the poverty line)/2080?

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By: FifthDecade http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2011/11/08/the-social-safety-net-is-broken/comment-page-1/#comment-32880 Tue, 08 Nov 2011 22:44:08 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/?p=10987#comment-32880 Felix, whatever gave you the impression that the US has a ‘safety net’? There are far too many people in high places who only care about getting their own taxes down, despite earning many times the SPM themselves. All you have to do is even mention the idea and someone will blow their top and call it socialism (they’ll be referring to communism, mind you).

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