Comments on: Immigration datapoint of the day, entrepreneurship edition http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2011/12/20/immigration-datapoint-of-the-day-entrepreneurship-edition/ A slice of lime in the soda Sun, 26 Oct 2014 19:05:02 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.5 By: printvenue coupons http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2011/12/20/immigration-datapoint-of-the-day-entrepreneurship-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-54315 Mon, 06 Oct 2014 23:39:05 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/?p=11589#comment-54315 This is what is probably greatest web page We’ve got have you visitied. the information is simply fantastic.

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By: Kaleberg http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2011/12/20/immigration-datapoint-of-the-day-entrepreneurship-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-34465 Sat, 24 Dec 2011 22:45:41 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/?p=11589#comment-34465 In the 1960s, there were 100 slots open for immigrants from China. Of course, there weren’t all that many entrepreneurial Chinese during Mao’s Cultural Revolution.

I have nothing against immigration, but it has nothing to do with improving the economy or solving our economic problems. That can only be addressed by increasing regulation and raising taxes. Still, consider that there was a major immigration shut down from the 20s through the 70s, a period of serious income growth and rising living standards, and that this growth ended around the same time immigration was increased.

FifthDecade: Fish and chips was another immigrant food introduced to England by eastern European Jews.

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By: billyjoerob http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2011/12/20/immigration-datapoint-of-the-day-entrepreneurship-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-34463 Sat, 24 Dec 2011 19:49:17 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/?p=11589#comment-34463 I don’t advise the UK on its immigration policies. Is Felix even a US citizen?

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By: FifthDecade http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2011/12/20/immigration-datapoint-of-the-day-entrepreneurship-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-34370 Thu, 22 Dec 2011 00:37:43 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/?p=11589#comment-34370 joe22 – No ‘floodgates’ were opened in the UK, although the claim that there was helped the xenophobes to gain some political power. It’s always easier to take pot shots at immigrants rather than focus on ones own mistakes and shortcomings. It’s always easier to control the ignorant through fear.

No, it wasn’t floodgates that brought in economic migrants, it was an economic boom, and when the boom ended, most moved on or went back home.

The reason why they could enter the country was the same reason that Californians are allowed to go and work in Columbus, Nebraskans in New York, or Texans in Tennessee. It’s what allows Brits to work in Belgium, Scots in Scandinavia, Glaswegians in Germany, and any Brit to retire to anywhere warm (or cold) in the EU. It’s called Freedom of Movement and is an economic benefit to the places that allow it.

As for ‘over-crowding’ in London, the current population of 7 million is 30% less than when it was the world’s largest city. Perhaps if the govt didn’t spend more money on transport in London than the rest of the country combined…
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-162 35349
…economic growth would spread out a bit and give those parts of the country that have millions of empty homes, and communities without jobs, some share of the economy that is more than that provided by govt spending on welfare benefits or transplanted govt employees.

As for house prices, blame the green belt and nimby’s for that, plus the selling off of council housing in the 1980s where the proceeds were prevented from being used to replace the housing stock. That was no more than selling the family silver to pay for day to day costs. That wasn’t done for economic reasons either, it was purely ideological.

As for loss of cultural identity, that began when Hollywood films were first shown in the cinemas of the UK. But which culture did you mean? Welshness? Scottishness? Irishness? Yorkshire, Lancashire, Cumbria or Geordieness? Cornishness, East Anglianess, Kentishness or Man of Kentness? For heaven’s sake, Britain’s National Dish is now Chicken Tikka Massala (invented in Glasgow) – and it is that because people LIKE it.

Diversity is good: get used to it, joe22.

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By: OneOfTheSheep http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2011/12/20/immigration-datapoint-of-the-day-entrepreneurship-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-34367 Wed, 21 Dec 2011 23:41:49 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/?p=11589#comment-34367 @FifthDecade,

Nameless “gets it”. YOU don’t.

The “point” is that ENOUGH of “…the rest of the world… want[s] to work in America…” to “bury us” (as the Soviet Union leader Khrushchev threatened to do in the mid-fifties). The economic potential for an American legal immigrant is so great that they focus instead on bringing their family, roots and culture here.

If “…5 in 100 consider the possibility…”, of a country with a population of millions, that’s still 50,000 per million! With quotas being what they are, only the “best and brightest” need apply. Yes, many do not quality because of immigration quotas.

Please provide a verifiable credible source that half that make it here legally “…returns not having liked the experience.” America remains the best available “…beacon of wealth and freedom…”.

That 1% the unmotivated, unqualified, unsatisfied, unemployed OWC has-beens invented is a myth. America is going through an economically difficult period, as is the rest of a world feeling it’s way from an industrial age into an information age. There will be winners and losers. In case you don’t know you’re one of the latter that is, at most 20%.

The rest, the 80% of America, is currently assaulting the malls and spending like crazy. Whether Americans are employed, retired, on unemployment, on food stamps, at the food bank, etc., there is a chicken (or better) in every pot and there are between one and three cars in every garage that isn’t too full of other possessions to use it in the manner intended. But sour grapes make good stuffing.

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By: Nameless http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2011/12/20/immigration-datapoint-of-the-day-entrepreneurship-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-34364 Wed, 21 Dec 2011 23:14:21 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/?p=11589#comment-34364 “don’t flatter yourself: the rest of the world does not want to become American, the rest of the world does not want to work in America. Most people want to continue living where their roots, culture and family are.”

This is only true for people who live in other developed countries. That is why I said 5 billion, not 6. Among people in third-world countries like India, who sustain themselves on $2/day, the vast majority would take the opportunity to move to America if it was offered. They don’t even care if it’s America or Australia or France, all they want is to get out of the hellhole where they were born and to find a decent place to raise their children.

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By: k9quaint http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2011/12/20/immigration-datapoint-of-the-day-entrepreneurship-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-34347 Wed, 21 Dec 2011 18:56:08 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/?p=11589#comment-34347 Someone should explain to Nichols7 that the internet exists outside of the US. Those thousands of high-skilled bloggers can already compete with Felix. You don’t need to reside inside the US to post in a blog. ;)

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By: Nichols7 http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2011/12/20/immigration-datapoint-of-the-day-entrepreneurship-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-34346 Wed, 21 Dec 2011 18:41:50 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/?p=11589#comment-34346 I wonder if Felix “Open Borders Now!” Salmon would be so enthusiastic if we allowed thousands of “high-skilled” immigrants into the United States to compete for journalist/blogger jobs?

There are thousands of “high-skilled” immigrants who can perform the same “cut and paste” journalism at a much lower price!

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By: k9quaint http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2011/12/20/immigration-datapoint-of-the-day-entrepreneurship-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-34345 Wed, 21 Dec 2011 18:08:36 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/?p=11589#comment-34345 Silicon Valley is looking for engineers. The non-brilliant need not apply. Allow the engineers to immigrate and they will pay US taxes, don’t allow them to immigrate and they will pay some other government taxes. Either way, we want the best in the world to be working for us not the cheapest. It would be nice if they could live here too, but it’s not an absolute requirement.

Every time a brilliant engineer is denied entry into the US, that person creates amazing things somewhere else.

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By: joe22 http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2011/12/20/immigration-datapoint-of-the-day-entrepreneurship-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-34344 Wed, 21 Dec 2011 17:27:20 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/?p=11589#comment-34344 Any immigration policies have to be extremely thought out. Here in the UK the Labour party opened the floodgates to immigrants and the country has changed beyond all recognition and very much for the worse. Its imperative the focus is on quality rather than quantity.

Sadly in the UK the criteria was for many years non-existent and the effect on the country has been devastating where in London for instance there has been overcrowding which has fuelled the increase in property prices to ridiculous levels and a general feeling of a loss of cultural identity.

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