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	<title>Comments on: Silly ideas of the day, Dylan Ratigan edition</title>
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	<description>A slice of lime in the soda</description>
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		<title>By: Danny_Black</title>
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		<dc:creator>Danny_Black</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jan 2012 19:44:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Foppe, I guess dealing with facts is beneath you right?  Especially as they seem to regularly get in the way of your opinions.  No wonder you were such a fan of Graeber.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Foppe, I guess dealing with facts is beneath you right?  Especially as they seem to regularly get in the way of your opinions.  No wonder you were such a fan of Graeber.</p>
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		<title>By: Foppe</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2012/01/11/silly-ideas-of-the-day-dylan-ratigan-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-35020</link>
		<dc:creator>Foppe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jan 2012 23:09:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, you poor Danny boy. So intent on not learning anything whilst &quot;trashing&quot; your &quot;opponents&quot;. You simply must be an Obama voter.

Felix? Are you really happy to have intellectual lightweights like Danny commenting (and apparently agreeing with what you write) regularly? Lord knows it would put me off.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, you poor Danny boy. So intent on not learning anything whilst &#8220;trashing&#8221; your &#8220;opponents&#8221;. You simply must be an Obama voter.</p>
<p>Felix? Are you really happy to have intellectual lightweights like Danny commenting (and apparently agreeing with what you write) regularly? Lord knows it would put me off.</p>
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		<title>By: Danny_Black</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2012/01/11/silly-ideas-of-the-day-dylan-ratigan-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-34974</link>
		<dc:creator>Danny_Black</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jan 2012 13:20:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.businessweek.com/finance/occupy-wall-street/archives/2011/11/david_graebers_odd_history_of_silicon_valley.html

Fantastic!!</description>
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<p>Fantastic!!</p>
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		<title>By: Danny_Black</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2012/01/11/silly-ideas-of-the-day-dylan-ratigan-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-34973</link>
		<dc:creator>Danny_Black</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jan 2012 13:19:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dollared, I assume you haven&#039;t checked what Ecuador has to pay - and do - to get a loan.  

Foppe, I read exactly three things that Graeber has said and all were clearly and obviously incorrect - being the origin of the word for debt in the various different languages in which the world&#039;s major religions were originally written in, that Apple was founded by some ex-IBMers guys working in a garage on their laptops and how the Fed works.  So if by &quot;fantastic&quot;, you mean can&#039;t get the indisuptable stuff even vaguely correct then you are spot on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dollared, I assume you haven&#8217;t checked what Ecuador has to pay &#8211; and do &#8211; to get a loan.  </p>
<p>Foppe, I read exactly three things that Graeber has said and all were clearly and obviously incorrect &#8211; being the origin of the word for debt in the various different languages in which the world&#8217;s major religions were originally written in, that Apple was founded by some ex-IBMers guys working in a garage on their laptops and how the Fed works.  So if by &#8220;fantastic&#8221;, you mean can&#8217;t get the indisuptable stuff even vaguely correct then you are spot on.</p>
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		<title>By: BidnisMan</title>
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		<dc:creator>BidnisMan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jan 2012 11:10:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I’ve spent the best part of a day trying to work out what on earth Ratigan might be driving at here&quot;

The sentence is logical. But it loses all meaning when viewed with even 1 minute of common sense. Ideas that are simply nonsense need to be called out. Respect.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I’ve spent the best part of a day trying to work out what on earth Ratigan might be driving at here&#8221;</p>
<p>The sentence is logical. But it loses all meaning when viewed with even 1 minute of common sense. Ideas that are simply nonsense need to be called out. Respect.</p>
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		<title>By: realist50</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2012/01/11/silly-ideas-of-the-day-dylan-ratigan-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-34946</link>
		<dc:creator>realist50</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jan 2012 20:39:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bravo, Felix, for recognizing the issues with these ideas.  Ratigan&#039;s idea on debt cancellation sounds like one of Chavez&#039;s rants.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bravo, Felix, for recognizing the issues with these ideas.  Ratigan&#8217;s idea on debt cancellation sounds like one of Chavez&#8217;s rants.</p>
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		<title>By: JayCM</title>
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		<dc:creator>JayCM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jan 2012 17:10:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Felix, fractional reserve banking creates money, which is different than printing money.

Say I have money M, which I deposit in a bank.  The bank lends out M-r (where r is some small reserve).  Now a lender has M-r to spend, and I still have M to spend with my debit card, so the money supply has gone from M to (2M-r).  This is fairly simple econ.

I doubt that the derivatives can so cleanly be canceled, but that&#039;s the real problem with derivatives.  We now have more than enough fiddly derivative contracts to keep every lawyer in the world arguing until the sun burns out, and the volumes are so huge (hundreds of trillions to quadrillions of dollars) that even in 99% of it nets to zero, the remainder is still enormous.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Felix, fractional reserve banking creates money, which is different than printing money.</p>
<p>Say I have money M, which I deposit in a bank.  The bank lends out M-r (where r is some small reserve).  Now a lender has M-r to spend, and I still have M to spend with my debit card, so the money supply has gone from M to (2M-r).  This is fairly simple econ.</p>
<p>I doubt that the derivatives can so cleanly be canceled, but that&#8217;s the real problem with derivatives.  We now have more than enough fiddly derivative contracts to keep every lawyer in the world arguing until the sun burns out, and the volumes are so huge (hundreds of trillions to quadrillions of dollars) that even in 99% of it nets to zero, the remainder is still enormous.</p>
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		<title>By: TheDollarGame</title>
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		<dc:creator>TheDollarGame</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jan 2012 15:28:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post, Felix.  I wrote a post myself piggybacking off of this: http://thedollargame.wordpress.com/2012/01/12/does-dylan-ratigan-want-to-end-the-fed/.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post, Felix.  I wrote a post myself piggybacking off of this: <a href='http://thedollargame.wordpress.com/2012/01/12/does-dylan-ratigan-want-to-end-the-fed/.'>http://thedollargame.wordpress.com/2012/ 01/12/does-dylan-ratigan-want-to-end-the -fed/.</a></p>
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		<title>By: redwood509</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2012/01/11/silly-ideas-of-the-day-dylan-ratigan-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-34932</link>
		<dc:creator>redwood509</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jan 2012 15:02:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ratigan was a certified loud mouth at Bloomberg and CNBC. For an air-head he got a big chip on his shoulder and very little to say beyond parroting the talking points of the discredited &quot;jurnolistas&quot; whose talking points are fed to him daily, to make him look &quot;a bright person&quot; . He is one more reason why for me MSNBC does not exist. Between Ms. Madow, Colonel Schultz and Chris Mathew, this barker is a fine addition to a team of raving clowns who fell off the bed of a truck.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ratigan was a certified loud mouth at Bloomberg and CNBC. For an air-head he got a big chip on his shoulder and very little to say beyond parroting the talking points of the discredited &#8220;jurnolistas&#8221; whose talking points are fed to him daily, to make him look &#8220;a bright person&#8221; . He is one more reason why for me MSNBC does not exist. Between Ms. Madow, Colonel Schultz and Chris Mathew, this barker is a fine addition to a team of raving clowns who fell off the bed of a truck.</p>
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		<title>By: dWj</title>
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		<dc:creator>dWj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jan 2012 06:32:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are you drinking the third bottle of wine at 3AM your freshman year of college?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are you drinking the third bottle of wine at 3AM your freshman year of college?</p>
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		<title>By: Dollared</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dollared</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jan 2012 01:27:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Odd that a man writing for finances on Reuters, or that E.D. would find Ratigan&#039;s ideas unacceptable.  They worked fine for Argentina and Ecuador, however.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Odd that a man writing for finances on Reuters, or that E.D. would find Ratigan&#8217;s ideas unacceptable.  They worked fine for Argentina and Ecuador, however.</p>
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		<title>By: EpicureanDeal</title>
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		<dc:creator>EpicureanDeal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jan 2012 22:39:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All you have to do is look at the book jacket, Felix, to realize that Ratigan simply isn&#039;t (capable of being) serious. It&#039;s designed to compete for attention with People magazine. Sometimes you *can* judge a book by its cover.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All you have to do is look at the book jacket, Felix, to realize that Ratigan simply isn&#8217;t (capable of being) serious. It&#8217;s designed to compete for attention with People magazine. Sometimes you *can* judge a book by its cover.</p>
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		<title>By: Foppe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Foppe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jan 2012 21:13:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(See for a short intro this interview with Keen at BBC HardTalk: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&amp;v=rGkmgnprrIU#! )</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(See for a short intro this interview with Keen at BBC HardTalk: <a href='http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&#038;v=rGkmgnprrIU#!'>http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pla yer_embedded&#038;v=rGkmgnprrIU#!</a> )</p>
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		<title>By: Foppe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Foppe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jan 2012 21:12:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Go have a look at Steve Keen&#039;s work, Felix.. Or Michael Hudson&#039;s, or David Graeber&#039;s recent (and fantastic) book Debt: The First 5000 years. It may well be that Ratigan&#039;s presentation isn&#039;t the most sophisticated, but now you&#039;re dismissing the message because you think too little of the messenger.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Go have a look at Steve Keen&#8217;s work, Felix.. Or Michael Hudson&#8217;s, or David Graeber&#8217;s recent (and fantastic) book Debt: The First 5000 years. It may well be that Ratigan&#8217;s presentation isn&#8217;t the most sophisticated, but now you&#8217;re dismissing the message because you think too little of the messenger.</p>
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