Comments on: Udacity’s model http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2012/01/31/udacitys-model/ A slice of lime in the soda Sun, 26 Oct 2014 19:05:02 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.5 By: mark_mcguire http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2012/01/31/udacitys-model/comment-page-1/#comment-41453 Mon, 09 Jul 2012 08:28:11 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/?p=12061#comment-41453 This is an excellent piece, Felix.

I like your comment about Thrun and Kahn having “screen-actor skills in a world which has historically rewarded stage-actor skills”, and your observation that we “lean forward” when watching a video on a computer screen. In a similar way, a podcast of a radio interview is much more engaging than an audio recording of a lecture – again, it is more conversational and recognizes the presence and proximity of the listener.

I’ll follow your work. Many thanks.

Mark McGuire
Blog: http://markmcguire.net/
Twitter: @mark_mcguire

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By: TimoKos http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2012/01/31/udacitys-model/comment-page-1/#comment-35535 Wed, 01 Feb 2012 12:33:52 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/?p=12061#comment-35535 I agree with the general line of Felix’s argument and think that it will be very interesting to see where this rapid development of online education is going. Will Khan & Thrun disrupt the traditional business model of (higer) education? Their success indicates they have the potential for it.

It seems to me Stanford has not hindered, nor helped this development. Yesterday Thrun’s former Stanford colleagues Nge & Koller of the online courses Machine Learning & Database Learning announced they are starting their own business as well: Coursera and will build an online platform for massive online education. But will they be able to compete with MITx: a free adaptive online learning platform that will also facilitate certification of online education.

Will online education mainly serve a new global market of students from the upcoming (BRIC) economies and 3d world country’s who do not have access to Ivy League education? The fact that 130 of the 200 regular Stanford students switched to the online version suggests that the impact on traditional College’s and Univerity’s may be much bigger than we could have ever imagined. Maybe one could argue about the current quality of online education, it is also much more affordable. But once online education starts growing and gains marketshare, new revenue models will emerge, quality will start improving and online educatin will follow the disruptive path Clayton Christenson predicted, forcing tradional (teaching) universities to rethink their own (very expensive) business model.

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By: Fiordiligi http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2012/01/31/udacitys-model/comment-page-1/#comment-35514 Wed, 01 Feb 2012 03:00:37 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/?p=12061#comment-35514 “the online version of the course, which was not hosted at Stanford’s website, was very careful with its Stanford branding. Yes, the online course made no secret of the fact that it was basically exactly the same course that Thrun was teaching a group of Stanford undergraduates. But the final certification made no mention of Stanford.”

the final certification for the machine learning course does not mention is “by Standford” in any way either. The boilerplate is standard for letter of appreciate for all courses. The other courses are hosted at Coursera’s website which now offers a course by UC Berkely too.

I think before you argue Stanford should award accreditation to these courses, a thorough comparison between physical class and the flipped class must be made. Even people who have completed the online courses and later checked out the material for the undergraduate class on Stanford’s website admitted the online courses have been dumbed down.

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By: Fiordiligi http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2012/01/31/udacitys-model/comment-page-1/#comment-35509 Wed, 01 Feb 2012 01:57:41 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/?p=12061#comment-35509 Stanford is a research institution, what’s being disrupted is teaching institutions. Elite institutions have been posting lecture videos on youtube, iTunes for a long time, they’ve been generous and proactive giving access to the wider public. I don’t understand the uncharitable tone about Stanford, the fact that so many professors are participating means the school is very supportive of the initiative. The online courses take up professors’ time and Stanford resources, they can’t expand it the way Thrun wants to, without spinning it off as a start-up/ or securing funding to run it as non-profit organization.

This is very biased towards Thrun, what does he offer that Khan academy isn’t ready doing? what’s so disruptive about Udacity? He left Stanford not because of Udacity, but because his employment with Google. Stanford actually lent Thrun the Stanford brand, where did Stanford try to hinder him?

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By: IDEA.org http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2012/01/31/udacitys-model/comment-page-1/#comment-35492 Tue, 31 Jan 2012 19:34:48 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/?p=12061#comment-35492 For some additional statistics on the 3 Stanford courses, and additional comments, see a related blog post at IDEA.org: http://www.idea.org/blog/2012/01/31/high er-ed-courses-with-massive-enrollments-a -revolution-starts/

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By: Curmudgeon http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2012/01/31/udacitys-model/comment-page-1/#comment-35483 Tue, 31 Jan 2012 15:25:10 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/?p=12061#comment-35483 There are many possible comments I can make here, but let me try this one. I gave a talk at a conference in Vienna two weeks ago in front of a couple hundred people. When I asked the organizers for feedback, I was told approvingly that I spoke in “the American way”, not using the podium, walking among the audience, and asking the audience questions as I spoke.

Thrun may create far more of a revolution in much of the rest of the world, where the dry and formal lecture remains the staple of education. The more personal and interactive we get in education, the better the experience and the exchange of knowledge.

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By: Panley http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2012/01/31/udacitys-model/comment-page-1/#comment-35482 Tue, 31 Jan 2012 15:20:56 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/?p=12061#comment-35482 https://csinvesting.wordpress.com/2012/0 1/25/the-university-as-a-failed-model-fo r-learning-free-valuation-and-finance-co urses-damodaran/

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By: cb2 http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2012/01/31/udacitys-model/comment-page-1/#comment-35481 Tue, 31 Jan 2012 15:06:34 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/?p=12061#comment-35481 This is not Robert Reich, the former labor secretary. He is professor at Berkeley. This is someone named Rob Reich, who is at Stanford.

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