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		<title>By: NoSix</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2012/02/02/nyt-paywall-datapoints-of-the-day/comment-page-1/#comment-35771</link>
		<dc:creator>NoSix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2012 15:59:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unfortunately, the Times doesn&#039;t seemed to have plowed even a dime of this windfall back into proofreading and copy editing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately, the Times doesn&#8217;t seemed to have plowed even a dime of this windfall back into proofreading and copy editing.</p>
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		<title>By: RogerT</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2012/02/02/nyt-paywall-datapoints-of-the-day/comment-page-1/#comment-35670</link>
		<dc:creator>RogerT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Feb 2012 07:46:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t count the NYT chickens before they hatch. 

Some unknown but presumably large number of regular visitors were given free digital &#039;scrips for the first year, followed by a 99c option for another 6 weeks before falling into the full-scrip trap. This amnesty program ends in about a week. I predict thousands of people will drop the NYT and not look back -- this poster being one. 

The price is ridiculous when put up against arguably better information on good news sites that is available for free. Bring the price down, or bundle it with, say, the Financial Times, the Economist, or some other worthy source. It&#039;s the height of narcissism to expect such hefty payment for the 75% fluff that is the NYT.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t count the NYT chickens before they hatch. </p>
<p>Some unknown but presumably large number of regular visitors were given free digital &#8216;scrips for the first year, followed by a 99c option for another 6 weeks before falling into the full-scrip trap. This amnesty program ends in about a week. I predict thousands of people will drop the NYT and not look back &#8212; this poster being one. </p>
<p>The price is ridiculous when put up against arguably better information on good news sites that is available for free. Bring the price down, or bundle it with, say, the Financial Times, the Economist, or some other worthy source. It&#8217;s the height of narcissism to expect such hefty payment for the 75% fluff that is the NYT.</p>
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		<title>By: skyman123</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2012/02/02/nyt-paywall-datapoints-of-the-day/comment-page-1/#comment-35668</link>
		<dc:creator>skyman123</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Feb 2012 15:10:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like the physical Sunday paper. There is still no comparison, in my book, to actually reading it in large format and on a tablet device. Perhaps it&#039;s just a preference from my youth that will disappear, but while it&#039;s here I&#039;ll continue to enjoy it.

And the post by VoltairesGripe is interesting. You know, when I was in my teens and 20&#039;s and not making much money I was concerned with hacking into things and getting them for nothing. Now that I&#039;m older I&#039;m MORE likely to subscribe to something I find valuable. And the only way I find it valuable is to sample it for a long time. So, unlike you, I subscribe because it&#039;s worth it to me not to have to fiddle with my browser and have unrestricted access. You&#039;re perpetuating the myth that these data refutes. It&#039;s the same one that causes the music and recording industry to cling tightly to stupid copy protection instead of embracing the new digital world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like the physical Sunday paper. There is still no comparison, in my book, to actually reading it in large format and on a tablet device. Perhaps it&#8217;s just a preference from my youth that will disappear, but while it&#8217;s here I&#8217;ll continue to enjoy it.</p>
<p>And the post by VoltairesGripe is interesting. You know, when I was in my teens and 20&#8242;s and not making much money I was concerned with hacking into things and getting them for nothing. Now that I&#8217;m older I&#8217;m MORE likely to subscribe to something I find valuable. And the only way I find it valuable is to sample it for a long time. So, unlike you, I subscribe because it&#8217;s worth it to me not to have to fiddle with my browser and have unrestricted access. You&#8217;re perpetuating the myth that these data refutes. It&#8217;s the same one that causes the music and recording industry to cling tightly to stupid copy protection instead of embracing the new digital world.</p>
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		<title>By: VoltairesGripe</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2012/02/02/nyt-paywall-datapoints-of-the-day/comment-page-1/#comment-35665</link>
		<dc:creator>VoltairesGripe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Feb 2012 01:06:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is absurdly easy to get around the paywall.  Step one: Use Firefox for your browser.  Step two:  Go to &quot;Tools&quot; and turn on Private Browsing, which prevents cookies.  Step three:  Go to Google News and find a Times article to enter the site.  You now have the ability to read 20 articles.  

If you wish to read another twenty, simply close your browser, open it again, and repeat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is absurdly easy to get around the paywall.  Step one: Use Firefox for your browser.  Step two:  Go to &#8220;Tools&#8221; and turn on Private Browsing, which prevents cookies.  Step three:  Go to Google News and find a Times article to enter the site.  You now have the ability to read 20 articles.  </p>
<p>If you wish to read another twenty, simply close your browser, open it again, and repeat.</p>
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		<title>By: klhoughton</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2012/02/02/nyt-paywall-datapoints-of-the-day/comment-page-1/#comment-35644</link>
		<dc:creator>klhoughton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 19:27:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What owe.jessen Said.  One of the things about taking Sunday delivery is that you &quot;get&quot; to be &quot;a NYT editor,&quot; throwing out sections that would never be touched anyway.

That said, my current NYT relationship is the same as colburn&#039;s: don&#039;t use the site, and only access articles from Twitter/FB links. (Strangely, despite the claims about how the paywall runs, this still gets notices about running low/out of the &quot;20 free&quot; articles per month.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What owe.jessen Said.  One of the things about taking Sunday delivery is that you &#8220;get&#8221; to be &#8220;a NYT editor,&#8221; throwing out sections that would never be touched anyway.</p>
<p>That said, my current NYT relationship is the same as colburn&#8217;s: don&#8217;t use the site, and only access articles from Twitter/FB links. (Strangely, despite the claims about how the paywall runs, this still gets notices about running low/out of the &#8220;20 free&#8221; articles per month.)</p>
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		<title>By: owe.jessen</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2012/02/02/nyt-paywall-datapoints-of-the-day/comment-page-1/#comment-35637</link>
		<dc:creator>owe.jessen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 10:12:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have an explanation for less digital churn: If I get a daily paper which I don&#039;t read, I will get heaps of paper which become a burden to dispose of, and a constant reminder of paying a product I don&#039;t use. With digital subscription the only reminder is the monthly deduction from the bank account, which might be below my threashold of care, depending on income.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have an explanation for less digital churn: If I get a daily paper which I don&#8217;t read, I will get heaps of paper which become a burden to dispose of, and a constant reminder of paying a product I don&#8217;t use. With digital subscription the only reminder is the monthly deduction from the bank account, which might be below my threashold of care, depending on income.</p>
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		<title>By: uprof</title>
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		<dc:creator>uprof</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 09:42:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@C-Ealy: Indeed; it&#039;s not an option where I live, and snail mail delivery of the Sunday paper often comes circa Tuesday or Wednesday.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@C-Ealy: Indeed; it&#8217;s not an option where I live, and snail mail delivery of the Sunday paper often comes circa Tuesday or Wednesday.</p>
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		<title>By: C-Ealy</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2012/02/02/nyt-paywall-datapoints-of-the-day/comment-page-1/#comment-35632</link>
		<dc:creator>C-Ealy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 05:04:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Delivery of the Sunday paper is not an option in some parts of the country.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Delivery of the Sunday paper is not an option in some parts of the country.</p>
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		<title>By: gregbrown</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2012/02/02/nyt-paywall-datapoints-of-the-day/comment-page-1/#comment-35631</link>
		<dc:creator>gregbrown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 02:00:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So much easier to justify the digital edition for me since there are so many more ways in, through the links I click on each day (and the addictive/reflexive visits to NYTimes.com to see if anything&#039;s happened). With the paper edition, I have to steel myself for tackling it as a whole. And while I don&#039;t get the same completist feel I would with subscribing to the paper, there is the vague sense that I&#039;ve been on that website a whole lot this month!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So much easier to justify the digital edition for me since there are so many more ways in, through the links I click on each day (and the addictive/reflexive visits to NYTimes.com to see if anything&#8217;s happened). With the paper edition, I have to steel myself for tackling it as a whole. And while I don&#8217;t get the same completist feel I would with subscribing to the paper, there is the vague sense that I&#8217;ve been on that website a whole lot this month!</p>
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		<title>By: Snyderico</title>
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		<dc:creator>Snyderico</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 01:57:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So the 390,000 are digital only subscribers? Shouldn&#039;t we also be counting many of the Sunday + digital and Sat/Sun + digital subscribers as digital subscribers when analyzing the paywall?  I would have been a digital only subscriber but when they gave the weekend paper away for less than nothing, I took it.  

It&#039;s important I think for my 2 little kids to see a newspaper.  If I&#039;m on the computer or my ipad, for all the kids know I&#039;m playing Angry Birds.  Watching my father and sitting at the kitchen table with him with the paper (or 2 or 3) spread all around is how I became interested in the newspaper.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So the 390,000 are digital only subscribers? Shouldn&#8217;t we also be counting many of the Sunday + digital and Sat/Sun + digital subscribers as digital subscribers when analyzing the paywall?  I would have been a digital only subscriber but when they gave the weekend paper away for less than nothing, I took it.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s important I think for my 2 little kids to see a newspaper.  If I&#8217;m on the computer or my ipad, for all the kids know I&#8217;m playing Angry Birds.  Watching my father and sitting at the kitchen table with him with the paper (or 2 or 3) spread all around is how I became interested in the newspaper.</p>
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		<title>By: jomiku</title>
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		<dc:creator>jomiku</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 00:33:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I saw the Sunday paper as a huge point for them. I subscribe to that, entertain the many offers to extend for &quot;the weekender&quot; but don&#039;t, and mostly use the web access. The money they make off Sunday advertising is huge so the more papers the more they can justify spending more on Sunday content the more they have something worth getting the more advertising. They seem to be one of the few that gets the concept of a virtuous circle. Others are still subtracting content and hoping against hope to make it up with ads.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I saw the Sunday paper as a huge point for them. I subscribe to that, entertain the many offers to extend for &#8220;the weekender&#8221; but don&#8217;t, and mostly use the web access. The money they make off Sunday advertising is huge so the more papers the more they can justify spending more on Sunday content the more they have something worth getting the more advertising. They seem to be one of the few that gets the concept of a virtuous circle. Others are still subtracting content and hoping against hope to make it up with ads.</p>
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		<title>By: colburn</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2012/02/02/nyt-paywall-datapoints-of-the-day/comment-page-1/#comment-35625</link>
		<dc:creator>colburn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 00:25:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In my household nytimes.com traffic has gone way down since the paywall.  I used to read the times online every day; now I glance at the home page and then move on to other places.  And I don&#039;t miss it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my household nytimes.com traffic has gone way down since the paywall.  I used to read the times online every day; now I glance at the home page and then move on to other places.  And I don&#8217;t miss it!</p>
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		<title>By: DoubleDeuce</title>
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		<dc:creator>DoubleDeuce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2012 23:29:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Felix, we hate paper, it&#039;s bad for the environment.  Why on earth would you expect digital users to want more paper?  That is a silly thought for you to have had.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Felix, we hate paper, it&#8217;s bad for the environment.  Why on earth would you expect digital users to want more paper?  That is a silly thought for you to have had.</p>
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