Comments on: Annals of dishonest attacks, Stephen Dubner edition http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2012/03/21/annals-of-dishonest-attacks-stephen-dubner-edition/ A slice of lime in the soda Sun, 26 Oct 2014 19:05:02 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.5 By: jomiku http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2012/03/21/annals-of-dishonest-attacks-stephen-dubner-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-37178 Thu, 22 Mar 2012 00:16:46 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/?p=12551#comment-37178 The note by Sprizouse about deletion of posts by Freakonomics is important. They do this. They censor. I can say “censor” because they don’t moderate for bad words or abusive attacks but for material that reflects badly in any way on them. That’s just not right.

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By: Sprizouse http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2012/03/21/annals-of-dishonest-attacks-stephen-dubner-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-37175 Wed, 21 Mar 2012 22:15:05 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/?p=12551#comment-37175 On a related note, I posted a comment on that ranty post by Dubner and it was deleted. The comment linked to your two previous pieces on Freakonomics (from 2005, on FelixSalmon.com) and the one here, on Reuters, about the spotted owl. I was making the point that Klein and Gelman weren’t the only ones criticizing with valid points and that I didn’t see him doing much to refute your arguments (or those put forth by Henry Farrell and others)…

My comment was eventually deleted. Which I think says a lot.

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By: AbnerStoltzfuss http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2012/03/21/annals-of-dishonest-attacks-stephen-dubner-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-37171 Wed, 21 Mar 2012 19:02:49 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/?p=12551#comment-37171 “It baffles me why Dubner would engage in a low and dirty and deeply dishonest ad hominem attack on Ezra Klein at all …”

Are you, um, familiar with the residuum of Dubner’s work? It can’t be all that baffling….

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By: jomiku http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2012/03/21/annals-of-dishonest-attacks-stephen-dubner-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-37170 Wed, 21 Mar 2012 18:41:25 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/?p=12551#comment-37170 A UChicago professor posted a serious discussion of the errors in the global warming chapter and included a map showing a route from Levitt’s office to his. Levitt’s reply was, to paraphrase, “we meant to stimulate debate”. That of course is not how it was presented. I’ve asked 3 times about quotes attributed to Levitt in British interviews to the effect that global warming is simple and we should move on to more complicated problems. No response.

The 1st book was Levitt’s work. The 2nd is not his work and it shows. The girl baby chapter is just plan wrong. The global warming chapter is an almost amusing bit of strangeness. The chapters on drinking and age, which Andrew Gelman and Kaiser Fung have focused on, overstate things and have some errors but they make fairly interesting points.

I’d say the reason for the responses is to protect the brand. It’s a great name and they’ve worked at making it into a brand.

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By: Matthew_Saroff http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2012/03/21/annals-of-dishonest-attacks-stephen-dubner-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-37166 Wed, 21 Mar 2012 17:55:53 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/?p=12551#comment-37166 The reason that, “Dubner would engage in a low and dirty and deeply dishonest ad hominem attack,” is because they suffer from “Michael Kinsley Syndrome,” where the need to be counterintuitive trumps everything else.

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By: ezra567 http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2012/03/21/annals-of-dishonest-attacks-stephen-dubner-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-37156 Wed, 21 Mar 2012 14:36:24 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/?p=12551#comment-37156 talk about long and mind numbing….Felix, can you give me the elevator pitch here ?
It would be an interesting exercise for some PhD student to count total # words in the original book/# words in blog posts (along these lines, the discussion page for “intelligent design” at wikipedia has gotta be the all time champ for logorrhea (sic)

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By: boylepoint http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2012/03/21/annals-of-dishonest-attacks-stephen-dubner-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-37154 Wed, 21 Mar 2012 10:29:16 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/?p=12551#comment-37154 I’m already licking my chops in anticipation of Delong’s response. Brad, do not disappoint!

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By: boylepoint http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2012/03/21/annals-of-dishonest-attacks-stephen-dubner-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-37153 Wed, 21 Mar 2012 10:28:03 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/?p=12551#comment-37153 Strange, too, that there is virtually no substantive reference to the blogosphere’s utterly — ahem — non-substantive response to the chapter on global warming.

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