Comments on: Is sovereign immunity hurting America? http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2012/04/27/is-sovereign-immunity-hurting-america/ A slice of lime in the soda Sun, 26 Oct 2014 19:05:02 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.5 By: MrRFox http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2012/04/27/is-sovereign-immunity-hurting-america/comment-page-1/#comment-38473 Sat, 28 Apr 2012 08:28:52 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/?p=13547#comment-38473 Um … there’s actually a little more going on with this than Felix and Frankie seem to appreciate. It’s a front-burner topic just now because the appellate briefs were filed, and because of YPF/Argentina and the Elliott case.

The lessons –

– Secured loans beat the hell out of unsecured every time. Not news.
– Don’t plan on using pre-judgment attachment against sovereign assets to turn an unsecured loan into a secured one. This is big.
– No kind of contract with a private sector party will help you when you’re facing a sovereign successor-in-interest. This is maybe new, and maybe big or not.
– The US government seems to love foreign dead-beat sovereigns more than it loves anyone who lends good money in good faith to them or their nationals. This is sadly unsurprising.

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By: Sal20111 http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2012/04/27/is-sovereign-immunity-hurting-america/comment-page-1/#comment-38458 Fri, 27 Apr 2012 20:36:11 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/?p=13547#comment-38458 The lesson is straightforward. Better to do business in the private sector. Keep the State and commerce separate.

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By: AlisonFrankel http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2012/04/27/is-sovereign-immunity-hurting-america/comment-page-1/#comment-38456 Fri, 27 Apr 2012 20:02:20 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/?p=13547#comment-38456 Thanks for the shout-out, Felix. The Economist is way overstating the impact of the Anglo Irish ruling. There’s a commercial activities exception to the FSIA. It didn’t apply here because Fir Tree is Caymans-based. If the Economist really wants to fret over U.S. courts losing jurisdiction over U.S. transactions, it should look at Morrison v. National Australia Bank instead.
–Alison Frankel

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By: FifthDecade http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2012/04/27/is-sovereign-immunity-hurting-america/comment-page-1/#comment-38449 Fri, 27 Apr 2012 18:29:24 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/?p=13547#comment-38449 Nice article. I find the Economist can be a little too sensationalist at times, and tells only the part of the story that suits the right wing bias the proprietor of said publication wishes to push. I used to subscribe to them but now just get the occassional issue, solely with this problem.

Now I’ve found your blog Felix, I get a very good overview with lots of meat and can make my own mind up. Keep doing your Sterling work!

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