Comments on: New York’s expensive bikeshare http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2012/05/07/new-yorks-expensive-bikeshare/ A slice of lime in the soda Sun, 26 Oct 2014 19:05:02 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=4.2.5 By: traducere daneza http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2012/05/07/new-yorks-expensive-bikeshare/comment-page-1/#comment-53364 Mon, 29 Sep 2014 13:52:32 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/?p=13787#comment-53364 Monk games n. Gets to a lot 2 million buildings in the course of mn, Wisconsin, Iowa in addition, n. To the even close to Dakota telecasts 2,600 hours time relating to in the neighborhood grew lisenced users each year.

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By: SeanSweeney http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2012/05/07/new-yorks-expensive-bikeshare/comment-page-1/#comment-39313 Mon, 21 May 2012 21:49:45 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/?p=13787#comment-39313 Salmon,

You’ve been punked by DOT!!

Hope you and your little friends enjoy being overcharged to ride around on an overweight bike advertising for Citibank.

LMAO

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By: nnyc http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2012/05/07/new-yorks-expensive-bikeshare/comment-page-1/#comment-39054 Wed, 16 May 2012 01:39:30 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/?p=13787#comment-39054 Felix Salmon,

Dude, what’s wrong with you?

You pay 95 bucks. You ride a bike to work. You ride another one home. You ride one to the park on the weekend. You ride one back from the park. None of these trips take more than 45 minutes.

If you did this year round, you’d be paying FIFTEEN CENTS per trip. How difficult is this to understand?

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By: hansrudolf http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2012/05/07/new-yorks-expensive-bikeshare/comment-page-1/#comment-38923 Sat, 12 May 2012 15:08:41 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/?p=13787#comment-38923 here’s what it costs in Milano:
subs:
annual (365 days) 36 €
• weekly (7 days) € 6,00
• daily (24 hours) € 2,50

use:
the first 30 minutes are free.
After the first 30 minutes you will pay € 0.50 for every subsequent half hour or fraction of half hour for a maximum of two hours.
Remember that the bike cannot be used for more than two hours*. After the two hour limit, you will be charged a € 2 penalty per hour or fraction of hour. Service is automatically suspended if you exceed this time limit three times. In this case, you can’t reactivate your card but you must subscribe again.
At least 10 minutes must elapse between the first and second use.

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By: jefeto http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2012/05/07/new-yorks-expensive-bikeshare/comment-page-1/#comment-38859 Thu, 10 May 2012 18:15:58 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/?p=13787#comment-38859 Glad to see someone with a larger platform than us commenters weigh-in: http://www.streetsblog.org/2012/05/08/bi ke-share-is-for-short-trips-not-four-hou r-jaunts/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_med ium=twitter#comment-523182191

Not sure why this concept is so hard for otherwise smart journalists to graps. Ride it and drop it off so someone else can use it. $95 a year is cheap compared to every option except walking. Wise up crap ass writers!

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By: CdnExpat http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2012/05/07/new-yorks-expensive-bikeshare/comment-page-1/#comment-38828 Wed, 09 May 2012 21:58:26 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/?p=13787#comment-38828 This article misses the point, as others have commented on. Bixi and B-cycle systems are not for “rentals”, they are for short trips. The whole point is to get residents to buy annual memberships. Sure, they will make a buck off the odd tourist or casual user but the pricing deliberately scares off most of them.

For a more comprehensive view, looked at from the annual membership aspect, see:

http://www.blogto.com/city/2012/05/is_to ronto_overpaying_for_bixi_bike-sharing/# comments

The key to NYC is that while the $95 annual fee is on the upper end of the range, they give you 45 min instead of the 30 min in other cities. And the 10,000 (TEN THOUSAND!) bikes will ensure lots of opportunities to use it. It will be a home run.

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By: indy.texto http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2012/05/07/new-yorks-expensive-bikeshare/comment-page-1/#comment-38808 Wed, 09 May 2012 15:44:47 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/?p=13787#comment-38808 This bikeshare program exists to make money for the banks but neither to lower the pollution level nor as a part of a mobilitty management program.

In Sweden, for 20 kronas a day 2.5 US$ you can rent a bike for 24 hours. In Lund, they provide a bike for every student free of charge (300 Sw Kr deposit / year only refunded when you bring back the bike).

Bikes are maintained by city hall workshops free of charge to.. Why such a nice policy ? No car lobbying groups no Swedish oil company, no car industry ( except Volvo), heavy taxes on the purchase of cars. And a national mobility management scheme at the national level. In every city, the access to downtown is limited.
Consequences : very low air pollution, and plenty of people biking all over the place ( more than 50% of urban trips in Lund are performed on a bike).
The city halls save a lot of money on repairs as a bicycle track requires almost no maintenance. Urban dwellers are much more fit and show a better physical health.

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By: weiwentg http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2012/05/07/new-yorks-expensive-bikeshare/comment-page-1/#comment-38803 Wed, 09 May 2012 14:59:26 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/?p=13787#comment-38803 Someone else posted a statistic: 88 percent of Capital Bikeshare trips in DC are for under 30 minutes. That’s the whole point of a bike sharing system. So, people clearly want to use bikeshares for short trips, and only a handful of folks use it for long ones. Certainly, those folks should consider just renting a bike.

Another poster alluded to this, but if you have a system where the majority of trips are 2 hours or more, it’s much more difficult to guarantee availability. The amount of turnover in CaBi means that you can march up to a station and almost always have a bike there.

http://www.streetsblog.org/2012/05/08/bi ke-share-is-for-short-trips-not-four-hou r-jaunts/

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By: JacobMatthew http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2012/05/07/new-yorks-expensive-bikeshare/comment-page-1/#comment-38790 Tue, 08 May 2012 22:31:08 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/?p=13787#comment-38790 IRMO is spot on. What Felix Salmon proposes is equivalent to taking a taxi around town for 4 hours but having it keep the meter running at every destination. That simply is not how taxis are designed to be used, and their fare structure discourages such use. The same is true for bikeshare. If the stations are well spaced, there should be a station near every destination within the bikeshare area. You dock your bike whenever you get somewhere and walk the final few blocks. This is a transit system, not a recreation rental service, and we really need to start talking about it as such.

The trip to Governor’s Island analogy is ludicrous. If you wanted to take a recreational pleasure driving trip to the countryside, you’d never hire a taxi to do so, you’d rent a car. Similarly, you wouldn’t take a bikeshare on a long recreational bike trip either. You’d rent a bike from a bike shop. The pricing will make this an extremely obvious choice. Apparently, though, it’s not obvious enough for Felix Salmon to understand.

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By: very-simple http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2012/05/07/new-yorks-expensive-bikeshare/comment-page-1/#comment-38788 Tue, 08 May 2012 21:40:37 +0000 http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/?p=13787#comment-38788 @davidsteven – I don’t disagree that the tidal issue could be a problem, but I think you’re blowing it out of proportion. As someone who reverse commutes to CT every day, I would absolutely use bikeshare to ride to GCT rather than take the subway. Presumably, there would then be a large crowd of people who arrive into GCT, some of whom would take those bikes back out to various business districts around the city like times square. and then tourists would ride from times square back to my neighborhood of the Upper West side to go to the parks or museums.

I think the fact that NYC has multiple business districts, along with people who live/work in ALL parts of the city, will mitigate the issue greatly. And then Alta is required to redistribute as part of their agreement – that cost has already been priced into the program.

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