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	<title>Comments on: Guest post: Michael Geismar&#8217;s blackjack strategy</title>
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		<title>By: TinyTim1</title>
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		<dc:creator>TinyTim1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jun 2012 12:29:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I demand a more in-depth Felagund guest post!</description>
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		<title>By: niveditas</title>
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		<dc:creator>niveditas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jun 2012 18:06:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;But Geismar fell victim to the gambler’s fallacy: he thought that a run of winnings changed the chance of getting another winning hand.&quot;

Its not clear to me how you get to this conclusion. I find it much more reasonable to conclude that Geismar reduces his bets after losing and increases his bets after winning, because he has less or more &quot;gambling money&quot; left. This is in fact the optimal strategy to maximize the total amount of fun he has gambling (with certain assumptions about the relationship of his fun with winning, this is a mathematical theorem), and having fun is the justification for gambling with negative monetary expectation.

It&#039;s not very intelligent to bet the same amount of money regardless of how much money you have. In the investing world, that would be like recommending that you should invest $50k in the stockmarket, regardless of whether you have a total of $50k to invest, or a total of $1mm to invest. A sensible investment strategy would be something like &quot;keep 50% of your portfolio in stocks&quot;. The result of that is: if you start with $100k, you put $50k in the stock market. If the market goes down 10%, you have $95k left, so you put $47.5k into the stock market, which means you bet less after losing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;But Geismar fell victim to the gambler’s fallacy: he thought that a run of winnings changed the chance of getting another winning hand.&#8221;</p>
<p>Its not clear to me how you get to this conclusion. I find it much more reasonable to conclude that Geismar reduces his bets after losing and increases his bets after winning, because he has less or more &#8220;gambling money&#8221; left. This is in fact the optimal strategy to maximize the total amount of fun he has gambling (with certain assumptions about the relationship of his fun with winning, this is a mathematical theorem), and having fun is the justification for gambling with negative monetary expectation.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not very intelligent to bet the same amount of money regardless of how much money you have. In the investing world, that would be like recommending that you should invest $50k in the stockmarket, regardless of whether you have a total of $50k to invest, or a total of $1mm to invest. A sensible investment strategy would be something like &#8220;keep 50% of your portfolio in stocks&#8221;. The result of that is: if you start with $100k, you put $50k in the stock market. If the market goes down 10%, you have $95k left, so you put $47.5k into the stock market, which means you bet less after losing.</p>
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		<title>By: Felagund</title>
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		<dc:creator>Felagund</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jun 2012 07:54:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, a note on the term &quot;Martingale.&quot;  The article makes it sound as though that term refers to any betting strategy.  It does not - it refers specifically to the doubling on losses strategy or a similar group of strategies not considered &quot;tame.&quot;  For simplicity we&#039;ll say that non-&quot;tame&quot; strategies can be defeated by a betting limit - any limit at all.  This should not be confused with the more general martingales of probability theory, which refer only to fair games, where future outcomes are independent of the current sigma algebra of information.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, a note on the term &#8220;Martingale.&#8221;  The article makes it sound as though that term refers to any betting strategy.  It does not &#8211; it refers specifically to the doubling on losses strategy or a similar group of strategies not considered &#8220;tame.&#8221;  For simplicity we&#8217;ll say that non-&#8221;tame&#8221; strategies can be defeated by a betting limit &#8211; any limit at all.  This should not be confused with the more general martingales of probability theory, which refer only to fair games, where future outcomes are independent of the current sigma algebra of information.</p>
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		<title>By: Felagund</title>
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		<dc:creator>Felagund</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jun 2012 07:47:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay, now let&#039;s talk about the most egregious stuff - the comparisons of hedge funds in general and QIM specifically to a Martingale strategy at blackjack.

BrPH, I happen to be a mathematician who knows probability theory, and it is not at all true that winning consistently in the market is proof of cheating.  That would be true (by the Law of Large Numbers) if any bet in the market had 0 or negative expectation.  But, to use your construction, anyone who trades in the market for long enough will tell you that the efficient market hypothesis is just not true - people can and do make bets in the market with positive expectation.  There are times when you can buy a basket and sell an ETF for a straight arb, or buy an ADR, crack it, and sell the ord to lock in a win.  Those are just a couple of examples of market inefficiencies that can be exploited - such inefficiencies come up every day.  Oh, I know, examples of companies who thought they had it figured out and made a mistake abound.  JP Morgan just made one, and before them we had the credit crisis, and further back there is LTCM, and on and on.  When you&#039;re making bets, sometimes you will lose.  When you&#039;re making big bets, sometimes you&#039;ll lose big.  There is no question that when that happens, these firms ought not to be backstopped by the government, otherwise it creates a very unfair game that can be exploited.  But do all these examples mean that the whole world of professional investing is some kind of shell game, a giant Martingale Strategy?  I guess it could look that way from the outside, but if it were true you&#039;d actually see far more blowups than you do.

In the case of QIM in particular, a lot of these comments are way off base.  They have had, what, like 15 winning years in a row?  Sure, I guess that could be a Martingale-type system at work (although, how many losing months have they even had).  But I have pretty good info that it isn&#039;t.  I work with a guy who taught machine learning at UVA.  That is a pretty serious field and a pretty serious university.  He knows QIM&#039;s CEO and tells me that guy used to live in artificial intelligence chatrooms.  He says you could tell he was on to something by the questions he was asking.  And he has no reason to build up QIM - he is jealous as hell that it wasn&#039;t him.  For that matter, I am jealous too - the guy is on the short list of people in the world who are smarter than I am (though he is not better at basketball).  If you go to the QIM compound and see the library of books on neural networks, etc. - well, they are putting on quite a show if all they are  really doing is pressing on losses.  I just don&#039;t believe it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, now let&#8217;s talk about the most egregious stuff &#8211; the comparisons of hedge funds in general and QIM specifically to a Martingale strategy at blackjack.</p>
<p>BrPH, I happen to be a mathematician who knows probability theory, and it is not at all true that winning consistently in the market is proof of cheating.  That would be true (by the Law of Large Numbers) if any bet in the market had 0 or negative expectation.  But, to use your construction, anyone who trades in the market for long enough will tell you that the efficient market hypothesis is just not true &#8211; people can and do make bets in the market with positive expectation.  There are times when you can buy a basket and sell an ETF for a straight arb, or buy an ADR, crack it, and sell the ord to lock in a win.  Those are just a couple of examples of market inefficiencies that can be exploited &#8211; such inefficiencies come up every day.  Oh, I know, examples of companies who thought they had it figured out and made a mistake abound.  JP Morgan just made one, and before them we had the credit crisis, and further back there is LTCM, and on and on.  When you&#8217;re making bets, sometimes you will lose.  When you&#8217;re making big bets, sometimes you&#8217;ll lose big.  There is no question that when that happens, these firms ought not to be backstopped by the government, otherwise it creates a very unfair game that can be exploited.  But do all these examples mean that the whole world of professional investing is some kind of shell game, a giant Martingale Strategy?  I guess it could look that way from the outside, but if it were true you&#8217;d actually see far more blowups than you do.</p>
<p>In the case of QIM in particular, a lot of these comments are way off base.  They have had, what, like 15 winning years in a row?  Sure, I guess that could be a Martingale-type system at work (although, how many losing months have they even had).  But I have pretty good info that it isn&#8217;t.  I work with a guy who taught machine learning at UVA.  That is a pretty serious field and a pretty serious university.  He knows QIM&#8217;s CEO and tells me that guy used to live in artificial intelligence chatrooms.  He says you could tell he was on to something by the questions he was asking.  And he has no reason to build up QIM &#8211; he is jealous as hell that it wasn&#8217;t him.  For that matter, I am jealous too &#8211; the guy is on the short list of people in the world who are smarter than I am (though he is not better at basketball).  If you go to the QIM compound and see the library of books on neural networks, etc. &#8211; well, they are putting on quite a show if all they are  really doing is pressing on losses.  I just don&#8217;t believe it.</p>
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		<title>By: AlchemistGeorge</title>
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		<dc:creator>AlchemistGeorge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jun 2012 01:59:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Felagund - both of your posts sound good to me.</description>
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		<title>By: Felagund</title>
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		<dc:creator>Felagund</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jun 2012 00:09:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On the MIT team - of course they counted.  But yes, they also used other techniques.  Exploiting a non-random shuffle is frequently known as &quot;shuffle tracking&quot; and the MIT team did do it, but JP Massar did not invent the method.  It is true that one cannot shuffle track without also counting.  However, AlchemistGeorge, I believe when BrPH refers to &quot;cutting decks accurately&quot; he is talking about another technique, known in the biz as &quot;bottom steering&quot; or just &quot;steering.&quot;  While this requires a tremendous amount of skill and preparation, it does not involve counting cards and is, in fact, very difficult to do while counting at the same time.  This is in no way a fiction that was created for Burning Down the House, and most casinos have now adopted policies to thwart steerers.  I learned bottom steering from JP himself, and have watched him do it.  As far as I know he CAN be accurately credited with inventing this method.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the MIT team &#8211; of course they counted.  But yes, they also used other techniques.  Exploiting a non-random shuffle is frequently known as &#8220;shuffle tracking&#8221; and the MIT team did do it, but JP Massar did not invent the method.  It is true that one cannot shuffle track without also counting.  However, AlchemistGeorge, I believe when BrPH refers to &#8220;cutting decks accurately&#8221; he is talking about another technique, known in the biz as &#8220;bottom steering&#8221; or just &#8220;steering.&#8221;  While this requires a tremendous amount of skill and preparation, it does not involve counting cards and is, in fact, very difficult to do while counting at the same time.  This is in no way a fiction that was created for Burning Down the House, and most casinos have now adopted policies to thwart steerers.  I learned bottom steering from JP himself, and have watched him do it.  As far as I know he CAN be accurately credited with inventing this method.</p>
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		<title>By: Felagund</title>
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		<dc:creator>Felagund</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jun 2012 23:44:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow.  There is just an unbelievable amount of nonsense getting posted.  I am going to attempt to address it all, but it will happen over several posts.  Right now, I just want to make one point that I have made several times before, and I want you guys to read it, understand it, and believe it.  Mike Geismar in no way believes now, believed when he won his 710 grand in Vegas, or believed fifteen years ago when I used to play with him, that any betting strategy will improve his (negative) expectation at blackjack.  This is a fiction that Delevingne carelessly created in his article in a (failed) attempt to make a lucky run sound like the result of skilled play.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow.  There is just an unbelievable amount of nonsense getting posted.  I am going to attempt to address it all, but it will happen over several posts.  Right now, I just want to make one point that I have made several times before, and I want you guys to read it, understand it, and believe it.  Mike Geismar in no way believes now, believed when he won his 710 grand in Vegas, or believed fifteen years ago when I used to play with him, that any betting strategy will improve his (negative) expectation at blackjack.  This is a fiction that Delevingne carelessly created in his article in a (failed) attempt to make a lucky run sound like the result of skilled play.</p>
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		<title>By: AlchemistGeorge</title>
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		<dc:creator>AlchemistGeorge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jun 2012 21:27:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I read the account of Michael Geismar&#039;s play I thought there were three possibilities. First, that he was in fact counting, but disguising this by talking about a dumb betting strategy.  Second, I thought he is describing &quot;variance&quot; as skill and I hope he doesn&#039;t believe that.  The third possibility is that he is very very ignorant of statistics.

With regard to BrPH&#039;s comment, the MIT team did count. A little time with google will convince you that &quot;Burning down the house&quot; is far more fiction than fact (as are other titles by the same author), and the only way you can know *how* to &#039;cut the deck&#039; is to do calculations based on the count.  As far as I know JP invented the technique - and the simple data logging methods - and worked out the odds and betting strategy - circa 1982. JP called it the &#039;non-random shuffle.&#039;

I was there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I read the account of Michael Geismar&#8217;s play I thought there were three possibilities. First, that he was in fact counting, but disguising this by talking about a dumb betting strategy.  Second, I thought he is describing &#8220;variance&#8221; as skill and I hope he doesn&#8217;t believe that.  The third possibility is that he is very very ignorant of statistics.</p>
<p>With regard to BrPH&#8217;s comment, the MIT team did count. A little time with google will convince you that &#8220;Burning down the house&#8221; is far more fiction than fact (as are other titles by the same author), and the only way you can know *how* to &#8216;cut the deck&#8217; is to do calculations based on the count.  As far as I know JP invented the technique &#8211; and the simple data logging methods &#8211; and worked out the odds and betting strategy &#8211; circa 1982. JP called it the &#8216;non-random shuffle.&#8217;</p>
<p>I was there.</p>
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		<title>By: Sunset_Shazz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sunset_Shazz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jun 2012 21:12:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent post, Felix; nice use of a reader&#039;s expertise.</description>
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		<title>By: thispaceforsale</title>
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		<dc:creator>thispaceforsale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jun 2012 19:03:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe the tax rate on gambling winnings should be cut to boost the economy?
Also, the original article is a case study on just about the perfect targeted ad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe the tax rate on gambling winnings should be cut to boost the economy?<br />
Also, the original article is a case study on just about the perfect targeted ad.</p>
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		<title>By: BrPH</title>
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		<dc:creator>BrPH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jun 2012 18:27:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The differences between Geismar placing bets for a hedge fund and gambling are these: 

- Running the hedge fund he has opportunities to play on insider information. This comes out over and over for consistent winners on Wall Street. Any mathematician who knows probability theory will tell you that consistently winning is near perfect proof of cheating (i.e. insider information.)  

- To the extent that your analysis is correct, and he is not playing insider information, he is still optimizing his income. It&#039;s a good strategy for his income to place those kind of large tail bets. If he wins, which will be most of the time, he is a hero and makes huge amounts of money for himself. Odds are that he can keep that going for quite a while. But if he loses? If he&#039;s smart he won&#039;t have all his money in one basket. He will still have his personal money. At worst he will get called before Congress for a flapdoodle session of no consequence. He will be able to raise more money to manage once again and odds are he won&#039;t crash for a while once again. 

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I will also note that the MIT &quot;kids&quot; didn&#039;t card count. That wasn&#039;t good enough to give them their consistent, large wins. They learned how to cut decks accurately and other things in addition. This is described in &quot;Burning Down the House&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The differences between Geismar placing bets for a hedge fund and gambling are these: </p>
<p>- Running the hedge fund he has opportunities to play on insider information. This comes out over and over for consistent winners on Wall Street. Any mathematician who knows probability theory will tell you that consistently winning is near perfect proof of cheating (i.e. insider information.)  </p>
<p>- To the extent that your analysis is correct, and he is not playing insider information, he is still optimizing his income. It&#8217;s a good strategy for his income to place those kind of large tail bets. If he wins, which will be most of the time, he is a hero and makes huge amounts of money for himself. Odds are that he can keep that going for quite a while. But if he loses? If he&#8217;s smart he won&#8217;t have all his money in one basket. He will still have his personal money. At worst he will get called before Congress for a flapdoodle session of no consequence. He will be able to raise more money to manage once again and odds are he won&#8217;t crash for a while once again. </p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-<br />
I will also note that the MIT &#8220;kids&#8221; didn&#8217;t card count. That wasn&#8217;t good enough to give them their consistent, large wins. They learned how to cut decks accurately and other things in addition. This is described in &#8220;Burning Down the House&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: super_pete</title>
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		<dc:creator>super_pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jun 2012 13:06:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had the pleasure of travelling with VinnyMC to Napoleon&#039;s Casino in London one evening, it is a high class establishment with a tasteful decor. He wanted to show me his skill at blackjack however the burly staff refused to let him in, simply saying he was &quot;too good&quot;, and that we must leave. We then went to the bookies and rinsed the lot on the 2.30 at Kempton.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had the pleasure of travelling with VinnyMC to Napoleon&#8217;s Casino in London one evening, it is a high class establishment with a tasteful decor. He wanted to show me his skill at blackjack however the burly staff refused to let him in, simply saying he was &#8220;too good&#8221;, and that we must leave. We then went to the bookies and rinsed the lot on the 2.30 at Kempton.</p>
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		<title>By: VinnyMC</title>
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		<dc:creator>VinnyMC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jun 2012 12:40:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You summarise card counting fairly well. Essentially it&#039;s key to increase the bet size when the count is high and bet the minimum when the count is low. The MIT students could still lose but increasing the bet size when the probability has significantly improved is the key to winning over a long set of sessions.  

The double bet strategy is mitigated by the casinos maximum bet limit on blackjack tables. So a $2 min bet table will have a $100 max bet, only allowing $2, $4, $8,$16,$32,$64 – so that’s just 6 bets before that strategy fails not 10. Even if it was $200 then you would have one more bet (7 bets) $128 bet. Generally the max bet is 100 times the size of the min bet which would equate to 7 bets. Casino&#039;s also restrict the strategy with roulette, simply by adopting a max bet limit. 

If you take away the bet maximum limit on the tables then you could make small returns for free at no risk at blackjack. The google / Microsoft parallel doesn’t really match the blackjack betting strategy of doubling your bet. They are only comparable as poor investment strategies. The max bet limit is the issue for blackjack players using that strategy. Adopting the double bet strategy without the limit is a superb idea! If you can invest without a restricted (low) limit then you can make lots of money in the investing world. In a world without limits the large hedge funds, can set there own limits. Using the blackjack anaolgy, the amount of bets can increase from 7 to however high they wish by moving the goalpost limit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You summarise card counting fairly well. Essentially it&#8217;s key to increase the bet size when the count is high and bet the minimum when the count is low. The MIT students could still lose but increasing the bet size when the probability has significantly improved is the key to winning over a long set of sessions.  </p>
<p>The double bet strategy is mitigated by the casinos maximum bet limit on blackjack tables. So a $2 min bet table will have a $100 max bet, only allowing $2, $4, $8,$16,$32,$64 – so that’s just 6 bets before that strategy fails not 10. Even if it was $200 then you would have one more bet (7 bets) $128 bet. Generally the max bet is 100 times the size of the min bet which would equate to 7 bets. Casino&#8217;s also restrict the strategy with roulette, simply by adopting a max bet limit. </p>
<p>If you take away the bet maximum limit on the tables then you could make small returns for free at no risk at blackjack. The google / Microsoft parallel doesn’t really match the blackjack betting strategy of doubling your bet. They are only comparable as poor investment strategies. The max bet limit is the issue for blackjack players using that strategy. Adopting the double bet strategy without the limit is a superb idea! If you can invest without a restricted (low) limit then you can make lots of money in the investing world. In a world without limits the large hedge funds, can set there own limits. Using the blackjack anaolgy, the amount of bets can increase from 7 to however high they wish by moving the goalpost limit.</p>
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		<title>By: Greycap</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greycap</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jun 2012 12:09:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Contrary to the previous commentators, I think this is an excellent post that casts the CIOs actions in a light I had not previously considered. Thanks are due to Adler for writing it and to you for posting it, Felix.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Contrary to the previous commentators, I think this is an excellent post that casts the CIOs actions in a light I had not previously considered. Thanks are due to Adler for writing it and to you for posting it, Felix.</p>
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		<title>By: MrRFox</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2012/06/05/guest-post-michael-geismars-blackjack-strategy/comment-page-1/#comment-39906</link>
		<dc:creator>MrRFox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jun 2012 06:45:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having spent a lot of years in a gambling town, there are so many angles to this it&#039;s hard to know where to begin. In BJ you know only one thing for sure - you are going to lose more hands than you win - count on that. If you lose 5 hands in a row you want to lose your minimum bet x5; when you win 5 in a row you must win more than 5x the minimum. Still, stick around long enough and you come away with nothing but a few &quot;free&quot; drinks.

What The Whale was doing seems more like poker than BJ - he was playing against other individuals, not against the math. He and Macris seem to have been attempting to &quot;buy the pot&quot; by raising the stakes on a losing hand until the other players were forced to throw in their cards. Didn&#039;t work then, but strangely - it could work now and get JPM out of this whole mess for damn near nothing.

In an ultra-high-stakes game, the counterparties can&#039;t play straight-up against JPM.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having spent a lot of years in a gambling town, there are so many angles to this it&#8217;s hard to know where to begin. In BJ you know only one thing for sure &#8211; you are going to lose more hands than you win &#8211; count on that. If you lose 5 hands in a row you want to lose your minimum bet x5; when you win 5 in a row you must win more than 5x the minimum. Still, stick around long enough and you come away with nothing but a few &#8220;free&#8221; drinks.</p>
<p>What The Whale was doing seems more like poker than BJ &#8211; he was playing against other individuals, not against the math. He and Macris seem to have been attempting to &#8220;buy the pot&#8221; by raising the stakes on a losing hand until the other players were forced to throw in their cards. Didn&#8217;t work then, but strangely &#8211; it could work now and get JPM out of this whole mess for damn near nothing.</p>
<p>In an ultra-high-stakes game, the counterparties can&#8217;t play straight-up against JPM.</p>
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