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	<title>Comments on: Could Spain&#8217;s bank bailout trigger its CDS?</title>
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	<description>A slice of lime in the soda</description>
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		<title>By: FifthDecade</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2012/06/11/could-spains-bank-bailout-trigger-its-cds/comment-page-1/#comment-40044</link>
		<dc:creator>FifthDecade</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jun 2012 00:32:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The money comes from the EFSF not the ESM, so it isn&#039;t as bad as all that. Unlike the Californian debt crisis of course...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The money comes from the EFSF not the ESM, so it isn&#8217;t as bad as all that. Unlike the Californian debt crisis of course&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Chris_A</title>
		<link>http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2012/06/11/could-spains-bank-bailout-trigger-its-cds/comment-page-1/#comment-40037</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris_A</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jun 2012 21:31:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Isn&#039;t this essentially the same set of arguments that somebody made back in March 2011, claiming that the Irish had layered all their bonds by borrowing from the IMF? Didn&#039;t work. For the curious, it&#039;s credit event 2011031101.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isn&#8217;t this essentially the same set of arguments that somebody made back in March 2011, claiming that the Irish had layered all their bonds by borrowing from the IMF? Didn&#8217;t work. For the curious, it&#8217;s credit event 2011031101.</p>
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		<title>By: dWj</title>
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		<dc:creator>dWj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jun 2012 21:16:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Firstly, this bailout is going to add a good €100 billion or so to Spain’s national debt, over and above its existing bonds. That in and of itself makes Spain less creditworthy: the more debt you have, the lower the chances are that you’re going to be able to pay it all back.&quot;

As a matter of High Theory, if this money produces an ROI in excess of its cost, then it does actually make Spain more creditworthy, even if this is senior debt.  As a practical matter, this probably increases the variance on outcomes that could reasonably be expected; in particular, it increases the chances that bondholders will be wiped out entirely at some point.

At least, I think that&#039;s the case.  It would be if the debtor weren&#039;t sovereign.  Politics is deeply inextricable from how allocations of future income are going to be made, and I&#039;m at a complete loss as to how Spanish politics is likely to play out.

Incidentally, I would think that most good faith holders of CDSes would hope that this doesn&#039;t trigger them yet, because (as you note) they&#039;re not likely to pay much if they do, and the position (short or long) goes away if it triggers.  What buyers and sellers are hedging/betting on is not this scenario, but one that won&#039;t transpire until, oh, at least next week, and a premature trigger would drive basis risk all to hell.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Firstly, this bailout is going to add a good €100 billion or so to Spain’s national debt, over and above its existing bonds. That in and of itself makes Spain less creditworthy: the more debt you have, the lower the chances are that you’re going to be able to pay it all back.&#8221;</p>
<p>As a matter of High Theory, if this money produces an ROI in excess of its cost, then it does actually make Spain more creditworthy, even if this is senior debt.  As a practical matter, this probably increases the variance on outcomes that could reasonably be expected; in particular, it increases the chances that bondholders will be wiped out entirely at some point.</p>
<p>At least, I think that&#8217;s the case.  It would be if the debtor weren&#8217;t sovereign.  Politics is deeply inextricable from how allocations of future income are going to be made, and I&#8217;m at a complete loss as to how Spanish politics is likely to play out.</p>
<p>Incidentally, I would think that most good faith holders of CDSes would hope that this doesn&#8217;t trigger them yet, because (as you note) they&#8217;re not likely to pay much if they do, and the position (short or long) goes away if it triggers.  What buyers and sellers are hedging/betting on is not this scenario, but one that won&#8217;t transpire until, oh, at least next week, and a premature trigger would drive basis risk all to hell.</p>
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